[This discussion is drifting far afield from Tolkien's languages -- whatever the linguistic merits of the discussion, we can be pretty certain that Tolkien ...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 15, 2003 12:38 pm
... In general, maybe. But we are speaking of Quenya at a certain conceptual stage. I mentioned the Plotz letter already, let's quote the relevant sentence:...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
May 15, 2003 12:53 pm
... In Czech, I can think of one preposition that requires nominative (others require various other cases) -- the Czech equivalent of "like" -- in "he is like...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
May 15, 2003 1:01 pm
... Please excuse me to intrude on your learned discourse, but it seems to me that the differences are more than "slight". It seems to me that arguing that...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
May 15, 2003 1:02 pm
... There was a rule in scholasticians' disputations that it was the task of the one who denied a distinction to prove the identity, not vice versa. The reason...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 15, 2003 2:38 pm
i Héru aselye (VT43:28) - Dominus Tecum - the Lord is with Thee. A short inquiry into a prepositional complement. Let's look at the English sentence first....
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
May 15, 2003 4:17 pm
We have 1 the _logical_ opposition of _subject_ and _predicate_, the underlying concept and the statement made about it. In "Eric kills Edgar" EITHER noun...
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
May 15, 2003 7:07 pm
... There is a difference between an _appositum ex recto_ like: _God_ in _The Lord is God_ _thou_ in _The Lord art thou, O Jesu!_ _great_ in _The Lord is...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 16, 2003 6:00 pm
... *Uninflected* forms, of course. -David Kiltz...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 16, 2003 10:12 pm
I'm sorry, but I think the moderators are right: we should return to JRRT. In fact, Russian has FAR MORE passive constructions, than English! The reflexive ...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 17, 2003 6:03 pm
Sorry for the barrage of membership messages. A glitch due to an inattentive moderator and a rude (now ex-)member. Carl...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 22, 2003 12:04 pm
... This refers probably to the genitive in _-o_, pl _-on_ and probably also the "ablative"; _-Vllo_. In the latter case, _3o_ or _ho_ is assimilated to the...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 22, 2003 2:36 pm
In message 438, David Kiltz discusses the so-called "_Entu_, _Ensi_, _Enta_ Declension", first presented and analyzed by Christopher Gilson ... This last is a...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 24, 2003 12:49 am
... No, this refers to the page I quoted, where we further read that the ancient adverbial element occurred also as "enclitic, as attached to noun stems (the...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
May 24, 2003 1:56 am
Patrick Wynne wrote in response to Hans' wish "to see some evidence ... **However, it must be noted that development of monosyllabic words (MWs) differed from...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 25, 2003 5:30 pm
... In fact, the Plotz Letter says so explicitly, the sentence you quoted continues: "... and before final cons. in words of two or more syllables". This is...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 26, 2003 12:39 pm
... "S- demonstrative stem _su, so_ "he"; _si, se_ "she". What else would _he_ and _she_ be than nominatives ? In Sindarin, _hain_ and _hin_ (_i thiw hin_ is...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 26, 2003 12:44 pm
... Orthotone vs enclitic variants ? David Kiltz...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 26, 2003 12:45 pm
... Based on what ? My suggestion seems to be phonetically plausible. Whereas loss of long -ô seems not. David Kiltz...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 27, 2003 12:39 am
... As Hans notes, _Orome_ here has genitival function without (overt) case markings. Such constructions also occur in English: _Mount Doom_ = "Mount of doom"...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 27, 2003 6:35 pm
... I don't think this is _the_ answer: simply "case" is used in different meanings. This is not a mistake, but general practice, as the following quote from...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
May 29, 2003 2:11 pm
I argued that long vowels in monosyllables were not reduced, even though the Plotz Letter says that "all long vowels were reduced to short vowels ... **I am...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 29, 2003 5:58 pm
Today marks the first anniversary of the first posting to the Lambengolmor list. Looking back, I am _exceedingly_ pleased and gratified by the course this list...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 29, 2003 7:52 pm
I am pleased to announce that _Parma Eldalamberon_ issues 11-13 _will_ be reprinted. I can't say just when yet, as we have to work out the reprinting and...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
Jun 4, 2003 11:04 pm
... The latter possibility occurred to me after I sent my post, too. ... No need for reminders, here, it's just that time is limited, and I can't return to it...
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Patrick H. Wynne
pa2rick
Jun 5, 2003 12:30 am
... The reconstructed etymology of S. _im_ in Didier's Sindarin dictionary is actually the work of David Salo. As Didier writes on pg. 8: "The etymological...
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laurifindil
Jun 18, 2003 12:56 pm
In Etymologies we read : "MAN- holy spirit (one who has not been born or who has passed through death). Q _manu_ departed spirit; N _mân_. Cf. Q _Manwe_ (also...
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
Jun 18, 2003 5:44 pm
laurifindil <ejk@...> wrote, re Q _manu_ 'departed spirit' ... Departed spirit: a spirit that has departed from its body (intransitive verbs of movement...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Jun 18, 2003 6:59 pm
... I must mention also the latin word 'Manes' that refers to the spirits of the dead... It seems that Tolkien had this word in mind... [Pat has asked me to...
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Edward J. Kloczko
laurifindil
Jun 18, 2003 10:14 pm
... My question was addressed to someone speaking English as a mother-tongue not about the meaning of "departed";. To my knowledge the _usual_ English...
