In Elvish theology, it is well known that the current state of Arda, resulting from its corruption by Melkor is "Arda Marred", _Arda Sahta_ in one source...
Didier has proposed that Valarin _Amanaiâl_ in _Ațâraphelûn Amanaiâl_ 'Arda Unmarred' actually means *'blessed39; rather than 'unmarred39;, and that V....
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:00:16 -0000 "Patrick H. Wynne" <pwynne@...> ... I have noted this resemblance, and several others between Khuzdul and Valarin: ...
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... In XII:357 (n.18) Tolkien gives the meaning in Valarin of _aman, man_ as :"The Valarin element _aman, man_ 'blessed, holy' learned from Oromë". ...
... Tolkien's remark is quite relevant to my scheme. It was written a few years after "Quendi and Eldar", that much is true, but it does not contradict the...
I would like to discuss a phonetic problem raised by the well-known Sindarin word _certh_ "rune". Its presumed etymology is given in XI/396 : "The Sindarin ...
... The question is whether the 1. sg. of S. _agor_ could have been _*agoren_. [I don't think that was the question, really; the question was whether S _ónen_...
... Well, a little misunderstanding then. That was really the question for me. As, apart from the ending _-en_ which isn't clear, S. _ón-_ may just as well be...
[cross-posted to elfling, lambengolmor and tolklang] I would like to inform you that I have revised my analysis of the so-called _Atalante_ fragments. There...
Helge Fauskanger has incorporated rejoinders to various posts I have made on this list (and others) into revisions to his article, "Reconstructing the Sindarin...
I'm coming back to a question already discussed earlier. ... I cannot find this attested, as the entry in The Etymologies [V:360] sub 3AR- simply translates...
In #3 of Hiswelóke (http://move.to/hisweloke) Didier Willis published an analysis of a Noldorin sentence found on an early sketch of Thror's Map. The phrase...
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Andreas Johansson
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Oct 30, 2003 2:53 pm
In regard to the "'controversy'" whether Sindarin verbs with no person marker present should better be called "3rd.sg." forms or "personless" forms, I'd like ...
Hello, ... [...] So would I. This is indeed a question of terminology. Personally, I'd vote for 'unmarked39; or '{un|under}specified39;. It would mean that an ...
... I think it is very relevant as we are dealing with two different entities. Clearly, they coincide in form (seemingly, I'll write more on that later) but...
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Andreas Johansson
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Nov 4, 2003 12:09 pm
... Indeed it does. (Standard disclaimer; in at least one moment in time, Tolkien appears to have envisioned Sindarin not to work like I assumed!) But as "Im...
Yesterday night I was thinking of the Noldorin word _nad_ 'thing39; (Etym. s.v. NÂ2-) and it came to me that it could be a gerund form of a verb *_na-_ 'to be':...
Andreas Johansson wrote: "This would seem to suggest that it is better thought of as a cliticized pronoun than a person agreement marker." Yes I quite agree....
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Andreas Johansson
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Nov 5, 2003 12:42 pm
Question: are there any known primary world languages that, in a construction like "I, Narvi, made ...", would use a 3rd sg verb, because the appositional noun...
... Well, we have _anim_ 'for myself' [LRIII:423] and again in the above sentence Tolkien translates _im_ as 'I', also, in Luthien's chant we find "...le...
... I think _im_ is here treated as the determiner of _Narvi_, so I find it quite possible that _Narvi_ would be the "true" antecedent. I don't think it's...
... Oh, I quite agree. I was not trying to imply such. But it is good to see that we agree that _im_ could very well be an emphatic form. ... Yes, and _anim_...
... Not that I know of, if you mean something like +"I, Narvi has made them" but cf. below for a possible explanation. To me it seems that as the primary...
... Certainly they are separate entities. Yet, I believe it is justified to compare them because they are 'genetically39; related. The typological difference...
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Andreas Johansson
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Nov 5, 2003 7:37 pm
... I think Pavel has demonstrated to satisfaction that there is no simple answer to that question - either Tolkien changed the rules, or the rules are, well, ...
... Both true statements. It just makes one (perhaps just me as I know much less than I wish ;)) wonder whether these similarities might also be misleading....
... I perfectly agree. I adduced Q. _inye_ etc. solely because you had suggested that a 1. sg. in Sindarin should be _ni-_ referring to the entry NI2- in _The...