... **The Qenya Phonology is not, in my opinion, the best resource for researching the Quenya as conveived by Tolkien when he was writing and after he wrote...
... In Etym, entry-head, MA3-, we see "Eld" *_mahtâ-_ derived from earlier *_ma3- tâ-_, and under WA3 we find *wahtâ and *wahsê. I would tend to interpret...
Andreas Johansson
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Jan 1, 2004 7:29 pm
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... I see. You say it means: _s_ and _z_ are variants (one to each other) similarly as _þ_ and _ð_ are (one to each other). But I interpreted it otherwise:...
... An obvious point, perhaps, but the change _Elerína_>_Elerrína_ could reflect a change in analysis from _el_+_rína_ to _elen_+_rína_. Andreas...
Andreas Johansson
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Jan 3, 2004 2:11 pm
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... **I see. I took a second look on the sentence and yes, it could be read like this. I am not a native English speaker either, so my reading does not have to...
The contrastive forms _olos_ and _olor_ can be explained with ease in two different ways: A) originally _olos_ gets its final _s_ voiced in position before...
... Well, as there's to the very best of my knowledge no (other) Q word with a gamma in it, it would rather surpise me. And _g_>_gh_>_y_ is hardly very odd. ...
Andreas Johansson
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Jan 4, 2004 1:47 am
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I have always supposed that the form _olor_ arose by analogy with the other cases (comp. Latin _honos_/_honor_) . This seems to me to be the most natural...
Lukas Novak
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Jan 4, 2004 1:49 am
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I have recently specified a set of standard Conventions and Abbreviations guide for the web-journal _Tengwestië_, and would like to use the same for this list...
Greetings: If one wished to test a hypothesis that some invented Tolkien language I is "based on" some primary-world language P, how ought one go about it? ...
Thank you all (specially to Ales) for your comments on the matter of rhotacism. I find them very instructive and helpful. Some time ago I started to write an...
... Perhaps because of the difference of the stress pattern? In "felga>felya" the "felg>fely" syllable is stressed, whereas in "ulgundo>ulundo" the "ulg>ul"...
Lukas Novak
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Jan 5, 2004 12:49 pm
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... <snip> ... I read here "originally occurring in Quenya" as meaning "originally occurring in Common Eldarin (?)or/and Primitive Quendian", e.g. *not* in ...
... A fellow of the Lambenor list has already pointed that actually I am wrong, since the _r_ in those samples are always trilled (with various lengths, but...
... That was also the idea I wrote in my previous post. But how do you know that the "weak" _r_ did not exist in the Quenya of Aman? We know that Quenya...
Greetings everyone :) I would like to announce the publication of a new essay regarding the syntax of Sindarin on my website I-Lam Arth. Being a co-author of...
... I'd rather expect the words to syllabify as fel.ya and u.lun.do, respectively, but the idea that the difference is due to the difference in stress might be...
Andreas Johansson
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Jan 6, 2004 1:22 am
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As far as I can see, unless my memory fails me - confining my knowledge to appendices of _LotR_ - the _rómen_ is an R as pronounced in _perro_ in Castille and...
... **As I am very interested in these matters (indeed I have spent a lot of time thinking about Quenya phonetics and phonology recently), is it possible for...
... **So would it surprise me. I did not want to say that it should really be a gamma but the development in QPh I mentioned last time (i.e. _r<gamma>_ ... **I...
... [snip] ... Not in "American" English: both _h_s are voiced and sound identical. It seems strange that Tolkien, (who I assume would differentiate these...
... Why would Feanor create a letter for a sound he didn't use? Sure, he also created letters for aspirated sounds, but I guess this was rather because these...
... [snip] ... Of course. I will translate the text (I wrote it in Spanish) and then post it. But it will be in another post (it is quite long). ... Yes, so it...
... Because I'm a dudhead, I forgot to mention you get rG > rj also in Swedish. I'm not sufficiently into the phonological development of my native language to...
Andreas Johansson
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Jan 6, 2004 1:51 pm
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... Laurence J. Krieg provided us with an accurate transcription of recordings (made in 1952) where J.R.R. Tolkien reads, inter alia, 'Namárie' and 'A...
... So subtle even that the IPA does not use different symbols to spell them... though of course you are right. ... As a matter of fact I am quite certain that...
A reminder to contributors about two stylistic points from the guidelines for this list (<http://www.elvish.org/LambengolmorList/>): 1) Excessive quotation:...
As I told before because of Ales' request, I have translated the section on the variants of _r_, of the article about the _r_ in Quenya that I am editing for...
... In addition to Andreas Johansson's examples from Swedish, I might add that in some German dialects the same happens. In the Rhineland area you have /ju:t/...