... Or the interpretation of _i sennui Panthael estathar aen_ might be 'who rather Fullwise they(one)-shall-[use-as-a-name] for-whom', with _aen_ < *_an-i_,...
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Didier Willis
hisweloke
Jun 13, 2004 9:34 pm
Thanks to the publication of the "Addenda and Corrigenda to the _Etymologies_" (VT #45), some later words from Tolkien's manuscript can now find a correct...
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Patrick H. Wynne
pa2rick
Jun 13, 2004 9:57 pm
... (RGEO:72). For the sake of accuracy, note that the page reference given here for _haeron_ is in error; the word actually occurs in XII:273 in _Dor Haeron_,...
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hisweloke
Jun 13, 2004 11:50 pm
... My mistake, of course, and RGEO:72 should also have applied, instead, to _haered_, as readers might have corrected by themselves. Thanks for, pointing this...
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hisweloke
Jun 13, 2004 11:51 pm
... Further to Patrick's correction to my post, it actually seems the slip in my notes was more serious and that all references got switched in my message as...
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Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad
Jun 14, 2004 11:37 am
Hello, ... Which is not at all surprising, given its outstanding similarity with the Welsh word _glan_ 'clear, bright' (where the vowel, incidentally, is long,...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Jun 14, 2004 11:37 am
... 1) In Indo-European languages (to which Sindarin bears great resemblance syntactically and morphologically) a denominative from 'name' would normally take...
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Beregond. Anders Sten...
j_beregond
Jun 14, 2004 10:05 pm
... Neither do I. In a previous post I suggested *_an-i_ > _aen_, but I now doubt it. More normally *_an-i_ would > *_ain_, and the occurrence of _phain_ in...
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Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad
Jun 15, 2004 11:30 am
Hello, David Kiltz wrote, on the subject of assuming an indirect ... Well, in real-world languages of course a patient (that which is given, be it name name,...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Jun 15, 2004 11:37 am
... Well, Q _esta_ 'name' should be the correponding word. I quite agree it's not to be understood as 'to call' but related to _esse_ name. This makes it...
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Patrick H. Wynne
pa2rick
Jun 15, 2004 11:56 am
Lambengolmor members with an eye for detail will note that message #687 has been deleted -- nothing sinister going on, David Kiltz just sent two versions of...
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Beregond. Anders Sten...
j_beregond
Jun 16, 2004 12:37 am
... That was not my point: what I tried to say was that S _est(a)-_ might actually mean 'use as a name' and not 'name'. No doubt it is the direct cognate to Q...
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
Jun 16, 2004 12:37 am
As a latinist I cannot help bumping in when it comes to the valence of a verb meaning "name". Latin has double valence system for nuncupare: 1) nuncupare...
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
Jun 16, 2004 11:35 am
... I can. The name is an attribute of the named. Therefore it is rather a predicative attribute (or predicative, in this terminology) than a gift to him. [But...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Jun 16, 2004 9:51 pm
... Certainly. Yet the ample evidence afforded to us by real world languages clearly indicates that, whenever a verb is used that means not just 'call' aut...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jun 23, 2004 11:35 am
In version 'III' of the Sindarin "King's Letter" (IX:129, 131), we find the following phrase: "_nelchaenen ned Echuir_" which apparently translates the English...
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Marianne
mgland84
Jun 23, 2004 8:48 pm
The University of Utah Press announced in its fall catalogue that it will publish _A Gateway to Sindarin: A Grammar of an Elvish Language from J.R.R. Tolkien's...
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Florian Dombach
florian_loth...
Jun 23, 2004 9:45 pm
... Besides, I find it quite unlikely that Tolkien would write _ned_, if for *_nedh_, with _ando_ /d/ in the _Tengwar_ version (as he did), even if he did wish...
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hisweloke
Jun 24, 2004 12:33 am
... This is exact, for 99% of these etymological notes, as implied by the Foreword you quoted. In recent versions, however, I took the liberty to add...
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Minas Tsulis
minas_tsulis
Jun 25, 2004 12:17 pm
Since the following assertion cannot be yet proved (at least, by myself) using linguistic epicheirema as it is solely based on "The History of Middle-earth",...
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BertrandBellet75@...
bertrand_bellet
Jun 25, 2004 2:55 pm
Carl Hostetter discussed the difficulties in the relationship of _ned_ (IX:129-31) with the root NED in the Etymologies (V:376) and questions its common ... ...
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Helios De Rosario Mar...
helios_drm
Jun 26, 2004 2:40 am
... A nearly identical question is explicitly answered in detail by Tolkien himself, at the beginning of the Gnomish Grammar, recently reprinted in _Parma...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Jun 26, 2004 12:14 pm
Didier Willis' diligent effort has given us the 'Hisweloke's Sindarin dictionary' (chapeau). As the editor invites comments, I'd like to sound off on the entry...
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Helios De Rosario Mar...
helios_drm
Jun 28, 2004 1:10 am
[Initial note: In this message I will represent long vowels, marked with macron in the printed texts, with a tilde (~) after the vowel, in order to distinguish...
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Helios De Rosario Mar...
helios_drm
Jun 28, 2004 11:05 am
... Sorry, I should have written "In fact _gôl_ inherits...". Helios...
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cgilson75
Jun 30, 2004 11:23 pm
Helios makes some interesting observations! But I would suggest that the connections he points out are not necessarily inconsistent with what Patrick and I...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jul 3, 2004 10:56 pm
This 36-page issue features the conclusion of the two-part "Addenda and Corrigenda to the _Etymologies_ by Carl F. Hostetter and Patrick H. Wynne, detailing...
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Helios De Rosario Mar...
helios_drm
Jul 4, 2004 12:47 am
In Etym. we can find two Noldorin etymologically related words glossed 'light': _calad_ (s.v. KAL-) and _galad_ (s.v. GAL-, in A&C:13). _Calad_ does not occur...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Jul 6, 2004 1:44 am
... Quite possibly. I used 'Pre-Sindarin' as the most cautious denomination, as I feel that this is what we can confidently say about the form. As a dictionary...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Jul 7, 2004 12:36 am
... Actually, I don't see any need to assume that the relative marker S. _i_ was specifically marked as a direct object. In 'Ae Adar Nín' "...sui mín i...
