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Re: [leandevelopment] Introducing Agile at a Fortune 500

Hello, Mark. On Wednesday, May 9, 2007, at 6:34:06 PM, you wrote:

> One challenge we're facing is that some high level executives are now
> concerned over how the project is progressing and want regular
> updates--they are used to Microsoft Project GANTT charts, excel charts
> with deadlines and stop lighting (e.g. yellow light, we're behind
> schedule but it's not critical).

> How do we map our agile process into the traditional project plans
> used by upper management for their corporate planning?

At the Deep Agile seminar he and I did, Jeff Sutherland told of
being asked for a GANTT chart or such. He asked the execs in
question how accurate those charts were. They replied that they were
never accurate. He declined to do them.

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
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Thu May 10, 2007 2:04 am

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Hi everyone. I'm new to the group (having learned of it from the distinguished Ilja Preuss). I am helping a large Fortune 500 launch a new business unit....
Mark A. Herschberg
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May 10, 2007
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... At the Deep Agile seminar he and I did, Jeff Sutherland told of being asked for a GANTT chart or such. He asked the execs in question how accurate those...
Ron Jeffries
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May 10, 2007
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The execs at any aerospace firm, large highway construction firm, most federal agencies building hard goods projects (concrete, steel, or water), and all the...
Glen Alleman
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May 10, 2007
2:13 am

I appreciate the thoughts from Jeff and Glen. Unfortunately, this project is not so simple. (My normal argument btw, is this type of project would normally...
Mark Herschberg
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May 10, 2007
4:07 am

I never did it myself, but heard of a way of transforming GANTT charts into something more meaningful by putting there not tasks, but requirements. This way a...
Artem Marchenko
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May 10, 2007
6:04 am

If it makes them feel more comfortable and it removes pressure from you then give them what they want but just find a low effort way of doing it. Make a gantt...
Clarke Ching
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May 10, 2007
8:30 am

Hi Mark, ... Yours was quite a brief email, and so I may have the wrong end of the stick here. It seems to me that the above two paragraphs are somewhat ...
Kevin Rutherford
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May 10, 2007
10:01 am

Interesting you mention that Kevin. Ilja Preuss and I have had a long standing debate about what level of upfront work is appropriate. I am missing how this...
Mark Herschberg
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May 11, 2007
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Hi Mark, ... Or if your future understanding of scope is different from that which you currently have? ... I'm sure I had the wrong end of the stick. It...
Kevin Rutherford
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May 11, 2007
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Hey Mark, I'm a bit late with chipping in, too busy over the past weeks. The request for a 'view of the whole' is standard in large projects, everybody wants...
Hubert
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May 14, 2007
10:41 pm

Isn't that what I'd do anyway? After all, a Gantt chart is simply tasks down the left and time on the horizontal. If we do agile, the tasks are all "implement...
John Roth
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May 10, 2007
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Well, the first thing you have to understand about corporate executives is that they are a bit like two-year olds in their Daddy's car... what they want, even...
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