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Management value proposition was Re: [leandevelopment] Re: FW: Saili   Message List  
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RE: Management value proposition was Re: [leandevelopment] Re: FW: Sailing a Straight Course in a Time of Variances

Hi Chak,

 

Since you are in India, I would not expect that an American model of self-organized teams would be the only model of leadership that you might consider.  Here are some additional successful models (and these are not the only ones):

 

1)       The open source model. In this model, the kernel of capability is tightly controlled and managed by a core – often self-managed – group. In this model, the main role of management is to figure out how to create an environment in which people are motivated to contribute to the commons. The best managers are the ones who know how to organize volunteer efforts.

 

2)       The military model. In this model, small units have appointed leaders who know that “you can’t manage men into battle, you have to lead them”.  Good small unit leaders are deeply committed to the people in the unit, to keeping them safe, to sharing the purpose of the mission, etc. The senior leaders communicate “command intend” and the small unit leaders – often in consultation with the members of the unit– make local decisions to achieve the command intent.

 

3)       The reciprocity model. In this model, people contribute their best efforts to the company because they feel the company will take care of them over time and help them reach their personal goals.  When this model is operative, people respond to a line manager who works to develop the full potential of every employee. Not a good model for India, because this model is based on long term, reciprocating relationships.

 

In every case, good leadership means figuring out what motivates front-line people to contribute their best efforts, and aligning those efforts (and associated motivation) with the short and long term good of the larger organization or community. This is not always going to mean self-organizing teams, which are mainly a reaction to bad management practices (practices which do not respect the workers).

 

Mary Poppendieck

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Author of: Lean Software Development & Implementing Lean Software Development

 

From: leandevelopment@yahoogroups.com [mailto:leandevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Dymond
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:45 AM
To: leandevelopment@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Management value proposition was Re: [leandevelopment] Re: FW: Sailing a Straight Course in a Time of Variances

 




Hi Chak,

These are great questions. George has pointed you to some great resources from Esther Derby on self organizing teams, Esther is an authority in this space so I recommend you start there.

Let's talk about the manager value proposition for a moment.

Jack Welch, CEO of GE would regularly assign Vice Presidents to various plants and facilities to make improvements. He was very clear about one thing with all of them - make yourself redundant. If you are still doing the same job in two years I will fire you. He saw management's role as system's thinkers who could go in, analyze the system, find the urgent things that needed fixing and work within the organization to fix them. This philosophy fed the growth of Six Sigma in GE, because it gave a toolset that could be used across plants/products/markets by managers to analyze a manufacturing system, find issues and make improvements.

I view a manager's most effective role as someone who is continually looking for opportunities to improve the system in which people work so that it is more effective for the manager, their co-workers, and the customer. Just as the teams should continually learn about the tools and business domain to deliver a quality product, an effective manager will also be reaching for ideas/tools that make them more effective in improving the system. In this again we see GE's leadership. GE setup GE University with tough courses that challenged managers with new ideas (like Six Sigma). They were expected to apply these ideas in their organizations. Most of us aren't lucky enough to have a corporate learning agenda, so it is up to us to find our own ways to learn and apply that knowledge.

In the past 17 years, GE has increased its market value from $12 billion to some $280 billion. For all that time of stupendous enrichment, the management training centre at Croton-on-Hudson (known as Crotonville) has been central to the company's vaunted management system. The three-week development course for high-fliers is so important in GE's scheme of things that CEO Jack Welch (who is even more vaunted than the system) goes to Crotonville every month to teach its 700-odd students.


When we watch the Olympics or a master artist perform on stage it is amazing to see what they have accomplished. Athletes often put their lives and careers on hold to perfect that one skill, usually with little reward other than the satisfaction of the process of training and improving. Even if they set a world record, how long will it stand before someone else breaks it?

What is the perfect company? Can we make one? Think of all the moving parts required to deliver a non-trivial software product to market. What would the perfect company look like to its customers, its employees, shareholders? If we take the customer as the first stakeholder, then I am sure they would have opinions on what the perfect company would be. Applying Lean thinking to the process from a customer request to request fulfilled gives us a long list of work we need to do to become better at what we do. Asking the same question of the people who work there will also provide a long list of things we can improve. These are not trivial things on the surface, but core issues that impact the activity of work. Consider the athlete. If you thought of yourself as a coach, and everyone who reported to you as athletes looking to experience the satisfaction of the process of training and improving, how would that change your perspective? How would it change theirs? How do we measure our improvement?

The specific steps you take to become a great manager are the same things one would do to be good at anything, learn, practice, reflect on the improvements, what is working, what isn't, repeat. Lean, Scrum, XP, are all inspirational sources of learning about what works. None of these methods are comprehensive, so the learning never really stops. :) I just took Luke Hohmann's course on Innovation Games. Luke has built some very useful tools for collaboration on product vision and process. These are complementary to Agile ideas, teamwork collaboration. However they are not specific to Agile, for example they are regularly used by a company that manufactures airconditioning (HVAC) systems.

cheers,
Robin.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, George Dinwiddie <lists@...> wrote:

Chakravarthy R wrote:
>
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> As a newbie to this entire philosophy, i still dont get one thing. How
> exactly does an Agile Manager train his team to be self managing ?

One way is http://estherderby.com/workshops/secrets.htm


> How
> does he know this self managing team is in line with the quality
> standards and other objectives of the company ?

Can you not see the quality being produced?  And what other objectives
do you mean?  Are these not observable?


> How exactly does an
> Agile manager strike a balance between a 'free for all' delegation on
> the one hand, and command and control autocracy on the other ? If he
> delegates to these self managing teams then what exactly does he do with
> his time, and justify his presence in the company ? If he only coaches
> these teams, then what does he do after they have been coached and ready
> to carry on ?

There's still management to do other than telling other people how to do
their work.  Esther Derby's blog has a bunch of stuff on this.


> I had asked the same question in a different way and got a lot of
> specific steps, but even if this question is  naive, could you please
> point me to some resources on how to be hands off and yet be hands on ?
> Okay so the manager can build an atmosphere of agile and lean . He sees
> the big picture and teaches his people to do so. . However the bottom
> line is that if this team fails, he is accountable to his seniors. So he
> needs to keep an eye without being intrusive. How does he do it ?

Maybe
http://www.estherderby.com/weblog/2009/06/when-to-stand-back-when-to-step-in.html
will be of help.

 - George
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Hi Chak, These are great questions. George has pointed you to some great resources from Esther Derby on self organizing teams, Esther is an authority in this ...
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Hi Chak, Since you are in India, I would not expect that an American model of self-organized teams would be the only model of leadership that you might ...
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Thanks Robin, Mary , George for your replies. Regards, Chak. ... Thanks Robin, Mary , George for your replies.   Regards, Chak. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:57...
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Hi guys, I know there are one billion books on management but do you have some tips on books related to management models and/or efficient teamwork/team...
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HI Emil, Here is something to puzzle over. GM Is Bankrupt: Does That Mean GM Managers Are Bad Managers? http://www.lean.org/shook/ Robin. ... -- Robin Dymond,...
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My favorite management writer is Jeffry Pfeffer. Two of his books that I really like were co-authored with Robert Sutton. These are: The Knowing-Doing Gap...
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Thanks so much Mary. I hope the list was prioritized since that was a big batch ;-) Robin, I agree with John Shook. I have asked myself the same question ...
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... Nope. Just a lot of the race. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com www.xprogramming.com/blog Just because XP doesn't talk about how to make fire, should we...
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Very funny reference. I think if you read shook's managing to learn you see something different than the impression the blog gives. Many in Germany in the 20th...
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I will read it when I feel I can motivate the buy to my manager =); LEI's shipping for the book outside the US is as much as the book itself: 40$! two books...
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Hi Emil, My list was in priority of authors, not books. You only need one or two of Pfeffer's to get the idea. Or you can just search the web and find a lot...
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Scholtes book "The Leaders Handbook" is pretty awesome. It incorporates lean management throughout as well. I just noticed mary's recommendations before this...
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Is there any possibility to have a recommended book list in this group? It seems you are sitting on a lot of good tips. Emil ... incorporates ... read ... ...
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... As it so happens, I recently finished compiling a fairly comprehensive list of online resources about self-organizing teams at ...
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Hi Chak, An Iteration/Project Manager's role surely becomes tricky when the team is striving to self organize themselves. But, one word of caution, this should...
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Hi, Chak, In the course of researching some work done in system dynamics, I came across a great resource re self-organizing teams: ...
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