Adrian, I could definately be over-reacting... when I here the word "best" in the context of innovation my stomach cringes... when I hear words like...
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Helen
bhwu98
May 4, 2012 9:09 pm
Greetings! Hello Ged, I joined this group yesterday and I immediately liked the discussion. Here are what you said and I liked a lot upon reading them. "At the...
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Helen Wu
bhwu98
May 4, 2012 9:09 pm
Hi everyone! I joined the group yesterday and liked the current discussion a lot. I have made my reply. I did not see it and wondered why. Thanks, Helen ... ...
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Helen
bhwu98
May 4, 2012 9:09 pm
Hello Ged, I joined this group yesterday and like the discussion immediately. Here is what you said that I liked a lot. "At the moment there is great...
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Mary Poppendieck
mpoppendieck
May 5, 2012 6:04 am
Hi Helen, All new discussion group members have their first posting moderated, because that keeps Spam out of the discussion list. Tom and I are the...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 5, 2012 11:08 am
Ron, I wanted to ruminate on this a bit before responding. First, it appears we agree that sustaining innovation when the team includes off-shore resources is...
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Ged Byrne
gedb01
May 5, 2012 3:07 pm
Ron, I think Marvin is trying to capture the discussion as a pattern. It looks to me like he is trying to encapsulate the ideas in an accessible form. Marvin,...
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Ged Byrne
gedb01
May 5, 2012 3:19 pm
Hi Marvin, thanks for explaining. I'm not a musician and I was worried that I might be getting things wrong. Is secrecy the only reason for choosing aural...
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Ged Byrne
gedb01
May 5, 2012 3:30 pm
Thanks Helen, I feel that the process towards stagnation is inevitable, and I fear Agile is as susceptible to it as those ideas it challenged. Systems...
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Amir Kolsky
kolsky
May 5, 2012 8:34 pm
This is an interesting thread, and a while ago, in the context of a discussion with a research group in a big organization the question of innovation came up. ...
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Ged Byrne
gedb01
May 5, 2012 9:59 pm
Amir, You say that their are two parts: the research and development that operate under different rules. Within an agile framework they can co-exist as ...
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Amir Kolsky
kolsky
May 6, 2012 3:22 am
Hi Ged... Inline :) From: leandevelopment@yahoogroups.com [mailto:leandevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ged Byrne You say that their are two parts: the...
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Mike Burrows
asplake
May 6, 2012 6:40 am
Hi Amir, I see a big difference between finding innovative solutions to defined problems, and the kind of innovation where not even the problem is well ...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
May 6, 2012 11:24 am
Hi Amir, ... I have to admit - this model confuses me a but. It seems to assume that research is always development free. That seems to be often untrue in my...
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Amir Kolsky
kolsky
May 6, 2012 4:19 pm
Hey Mike, In order to innovate you have to understand SOMETHING about the domain within which you're innovating. You have to understand the problem that you're...
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Amir Kolsky
kolsky
May 6, 2012 4:44 pm
The flow model (and we ARE posting to the Lean Development group), is about going through processing steps with the ability to have different flows for...
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Mike Burrows
asplake
May 6, 2012 6:36 pm
Hi Amir, I don't have enough evidence to support your "most teams" assertion and I would go beyond just "developers", but I agree with most of what you write. ...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
May 6, 2012 7:05 pm
I'm jumping into this late. I apologize if I repeat anything others have already said, but I'm just not going to read this whole thread ;-) I think Amir is...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 6, 2012 8:28 pm
I don't think we have yet covered the notion of how one teaches (or learns) innovation.. and how that intersects with the "Agile" movement. The Suzuki violin...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
May 6, 2012 8:55 pm
You put a group of well-rested smart people in a room and ask them to solve a problem. Feed them good food, make them exercise and play, and make them go home...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 7, 2012 12:07 pm
hmmm... Adam... what food do you serve? :-)...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
May 7, 2012 5:03 pm
Hi Amir, ... Agreed. ... Agreed - although the distinctions are often nowhere near as clear cut as just doing one of these by itself. ... Agreed. ... Yes. ... ...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
May 7, 2012 5:15 pm
Hi Marvin, ... I think everybody has been seeing it as a minimum requirement, rather than an immediate cause. Innovation requires time. When people implement a...
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Amir Kolsky
kolsky
May 8, 2012 1:29 am
... Do you have an example? Because I have found that in most cases these tasks pertain to a specific higher level story and help in breaking it down into...
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Helen Wu
bhwu98
May 8, 2012 11:20 am
Hello, Ged, I agree with you: The price of true agility is eternal vigilance. For NoSQL, I am the believer of the saying: for programming tools: the more, the...
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Helen Wu
bhwu98
May 8, 2012 11:37 am
No problem, thanks for informing me of the reason. I see you are going to attend LSSC2012. I will be there as well. See you in person then. Thanks, Helen ... ...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
May 8, 2012 5:26 pm
Hi, I'm sorry I jump into the middle of the discussion: I will have to admit I haven't read everyone's views so I wont address any. This quote however: I think...
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Ged Byrne
gedb01
May 8, 2012 6:49 pm
Joakim, Thanks for that. It's a great video. You Tube linked that to a Steve Johnson video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NugRZGDbPFU&feature=related He...
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Mike Dwyer
protraveler1
May 8, 2012 7:12 pm
A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ... From: Ged Byrne <ged.byrne@...> Sender:...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 9, 2012 12:16 pm
Perhaps there is a premise observable in this video? That creativity is often demonstrated within an ordered context and mature tooling... and then, the...