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Nucor Steel grew from a startup in 1968 into a $4 billion giant, attributing much of its success to an incentive pay system based on productivity. When I...
Mary Poppendieck
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<snip> Is this fair? Is it right to reward plant managers based on the productivity of plants over which they have no control? </snip> The simple answer is...
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I disagree. By rewarding plant managers based on the productivity of all plants, the managers have an incentive to optimize their plants output, and and...
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<snip> I disagree. By rewarding plant managers based on the productivity of all plants, the managers have an incentive to optimize their plants output, and and...
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David, I agree, I think there must be more to Nocor's success than extrinsic motivators. But at least their extrinsic motivators are at a high enough level to...
Mary Poppendieck
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Jan 17, 2003
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Hi everybody, this is my first post here and I'm new to lean development also but I think this topic is common to every agile approach. ... they are creating? ...
Marco Abis
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<snip> should developers be 'responsible' for the business success of the system they are creating? Some have argued that customers, not developers, should be...
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David, I couldn't agree with you more heartily. When I was leading new product development teams, the teams used to get into arguments all the time - a ...
Mary Poppendieck
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... Is there a right answer for all teams? For all individuals? I'm thinking of the GE/Durham [1] jet engine plant where they are "consensuing" on most of the...
Jonas Bengtsson
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HI Jonas, You referenced truly interesting article, one I had read before, but enjoyed reading again. I agree that decision making processes depends on the...
Mary Poppendieck
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Jan 19, 2003
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A couple of reviewers of the Lean Development book have posed a question I have been puzzling over, and wonder if anyone on this group can help out: When is...
Mary Poppendieck
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Whenever you need "Fat" development. Jim ... From: Mary Poppendieck [mailto:mary@...] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:37 AM To:...
Jim Highsmith
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Do you know, I can't think of anywhere where I might not want to use lean development either. How about if you had inherited a very bad team, a team you...
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... Given a set of constraints, you always want to as lean as possible. If you have a safety-critical device with embedded software, you will not be *as* lean...
Arien Malec
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Jan 20, 2003
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... Mary -- If you are talking about XP, it's my impression that the lead XPers believe the same as you do. Didn't Kent write that the separation of concerns...
Arien Malec
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Jan 20, 2003
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All -- The LD book and the crop of other folks who are applying real options to software development would tend to assert that we should have a different ...
Arien Malec
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Some of 3M's most profitable products - Scotch Tape, for instance - resulted from people working on projects long after they were officially 'killed' by...
Mary Poppendieck
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... I had 3M in mind as an example of what works here. In 3M, as I understand, everyone gets 15% of their time as research/slack time. If you care enough to ...
Arien Malec
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Your understanding of 3M is correct, at least that's the way it worked when I was there doing product development. The nice thing about this is that 3M did...
Mary Poppendieck
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Jan 20, 2003
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I think that you need to look at the roots of the term lean i.e. JIT and Deming-style QA When would you not want to minimize inventory (optimize it for your...
David J. Anderson
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Jan 21, 2003
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... What is not Lean? Maybe "Mass Production" and "Scientific Management"? But then Womack and Jones say that even Mass Production was just a special case of...
Mark Windholtz
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Jan 21, 2003
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David, You had me nodding my head in agreement...for awhile. Lean is always valid. Projects exist in a world of uncertainty; the future is never another way....
Hal Macomber
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Jan 21, 2003
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It might help to have different questions. What is the likelihood of a successful outcome and what is the expected value going forward net of the expenses...
Hal Macomber
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... That's right, and most of the real options papers, including mine that is explicitly using a decision analytic approach, make exactly this point. However,...
Arien Malec
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In his book 'Leading the Revolution,' Gary Hamel discusses establishing an open market for ideas, an open market for capital, and an open market for talent...
Mary Poppendieck
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... Unfortunately the typography makes the book all but unreadable. (It doesn't help that his best model is Enron). The notion of an internal market also ...
Arien Malec
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I agree with you on all points, Arien, including your criticism of Hamel's book. But I still think that having an open market for development is a good and...
Mary Poppendieck
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Jan 22, 2003
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Mary and Arien, Open markets for projects appear irresponsible to me. What workers would we let judge the viablility of projects? Does anyone here own a...
Hal Macomber
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... We are in utter agreement (yet another instance where e-mail takes 100x as long as direct conversatino :-) ... And to reward workers for killing/scaling...
Arien Malec
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Hal, As I will be arguing in my book, "Agile Management of the Software Development Factory" to be published in June, I believe we can treat the sum of money...
David J. Anderson
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