Based primarily on the feedback I received from this group, I turned the post on dealing with magic strings into an article. If you are interested you may read...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 6, 2008 11:48 pm
Nicely done, Chris, and well-written. Thanks for the plug! -S- From: leanprogramming@yahoogroups.com [mailto:leanprogramming@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of...
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Max Guernsey, III
maxguernseyiii
Mar 7, 2008 1:11 am
I did my part. I'm a TDD extremist! There's got to be a tasteless T-shirt in that, somewhere. Maybe we should organize a parade: "We're here! We're sure!...
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Max Guernsey, III
maxguernseyiii
Mar 7, 2008 1:12 am
It's very good. Max Guernsey, III Managing Member, Hexagon Software <http://www.hexsw.com/> http://www.hexsw.com <http://www.dataconstructor.com/>...
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chrisfalter
Mar 7, 2008 4:53 am
Management has been complaining a lot about how long our shop takes to build and modify software. So I've been suggesting Agile methodologies and TDD as a way...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 7, 2008 2:55 pm
This is a small study, but fairly well thought-out and executed: http://collaboration.csc.ncsu.edu/laurie/Papers/TDDpaperv8.pdf -S- From:...
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Steven Campbell
dukeytoo
Mar 7, 2008 4:09 pm
... Some managers are fairly intuitive, and they may in fact be correct that Agile is not right for you (although they have failed to express why). The litmus...
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Max Guernsey, III
maxguernseyiii
Mar 7, 2008 4:30 pm
Should we move this conversation to <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/leanagilescrum/> Lean-Agile-Scrum? Max Guernsey, III Managing Member, Hexagon Software ...
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lancezant
Mar 7, 2008 4:45 pm
There have been some such studies. I'm sorry to say I can't cite them specifically, but I trust others will. When they do, I urge you to read carefully! In...
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Max Guernsey, III
maxguernseyiii
Mar 7, 2008 5:34 pm
I guess we're keeping it on this board. "To be valid at all, I think such a study must extend through a reasonable stabilization period after deployment to...
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Chuck Walrad
cwalrad
Mar 7, 2008 5:45 pm
Excellent! From: leanprogramming@yahoogroups.com [mailto:leanprogramming@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Guernsey, III Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:34 AM ...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Mar 8, 2008 1:02 pm
... In my experience, you don't really need management approval to start doing TDD, pair programming, refactoring etc. So why are you waiting for it? Curious,...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Mar 8, 2008 9:56 pm
yawn......
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 11, 2008 6:57 pm
hi, Some things can be optimized if they can be batched up. For example, say that when things change you have to send out an update notification. If 2 updates...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 11, 2008 7:05 pm
Seems to me an ideal use of a Proxy, similar to the Cache Proxy but I suppose we'd call it the Batch Proxy. Here is a discussion of the Proxy Pattern: ...
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 11, 2008 7:20 pm
hi, Thanks for your note. ... The sneaky problem (which I didn't mention because I wanted to not bias the responses :-) is that you don't know when to do the ...
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 11, 2008 7:26 pm
[sorry, i didn't explicitly say that i wanted to avoid changing the client code in the first email.]...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 11, 2008 7:29 pm
Ah. Well, this gets into the next issue, which is how the proxied/non-proxied object gets built. If you separate use from construction, then the only place...
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 11, 2008 7:43 pm
hi, ... I have to apologize, I think I'm doing a horrible job of explaining what is in my head :-). I totally see what you mean by the separation of church and...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 11, 2008 9:42 pm
Well, there is no reason the client cannot interact with the factory to dictate whether the proxy should be inserted or not. This is essentially what AOP...
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Max Guernsey, III
maxguernseyiii
Mar 12, 2008 5:18 am
I think that use of the Command pattern has either been left implicit or I just missed it. Scott's suggestion of adding a Proxy seem like the right approach....
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Gary Brown
gb70840
Mar 12, 2008 5:18 am
Hi, Alan, After reading through this thread, I am wondering if you understand Simplicity, the way Kent intended. You get simple code through TDD...
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 12, 2008 5:06 pm
... That's pretty much what I have always assumed / thought about such situations, but it bugs me in some way, and I was hoping there was some really good...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 12, 2008 5:32 pm
"Encapsulate that" :) Often, the real question is "why do I want to trim the list?" and ask if you need a responsible entity. Maybe you need to wrap the...
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Rogers, David W
anyoneis
Mar 12, 2008 5:36 pm
... Absolutism, in programming as well as in politics, often leads to schisms and endless debates on the order of the number of angels on the head of a pin....
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 12, 2008 5:40 pm
hi, ... Another thing I didn't say was that I was trying to think about how to reduce the need for refactoring. This is perhaps a silly thing to want; one...
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Raoul Duke
theraoulduke
Mar 12, 2008 5:41 pm
hi, ... ja, I totally agree that absolutism doesn't work, sorry if my wording came across poorly. I'm just trying to explore the state space of options as much...
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Scott L. Bain
slbain9000
Mar 12, 2008 5:45 pm
I'll give you my 2-cents. I believe you cannot avoid refactoring, and you don't want to. J Software design is a process of evolution, by its very nature. Once...
