i think the problem with the Lectra was when it came out.  who cared
about an electric scooter in the early 90's?  the gas was cheap, & cars
& regular motorcycles were priced within most people's reach. the fact
they only sold around 100 units proves my point.  nowadays i could
understand why people would want to buy one with gas in the $4.00 to
$5.00 range.  it's crazy.  do you really think they would sell 100
bikes now?  it probably wound triple easily & would keep on doing so if
they keep making it.  i'm really surprised that nobody hasn't jumped on
this future hot market yet.  when ya come down to it there really is no
useable electric cycle out there at least that i know of that is.  most
are those little scooters for kids.  i see some slightly larger
electric scooters in catalogs with useless range & top speed.  mostly
just large toys.  the ego cycle is a joke, ya might as well just ride a
10-speed.  i can picture a new upgraded Lectra prowling our streets
today.  it would have a new Lithium Ion battery pack which would triple
the range of lead acid.  larger wheels & tires, shaft drive & new,
slick led lighting for energy efficiency.  maybe a larger motor for a
higher top speed making it freeeway useable.  i think there's more
technology available now for this new Lectra than back in the 90's.
ahh dreams.....

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, John Vail <groovyvida@...> wrote:
>
>
> The Lectra is the Model T of the e-bikes I guess.  And people do go
out of their to get a look and comment on it.  I decided not to put
the skins back on but to leave the yellow tops out where they are
more obvious.
>
> It is too bad they didn't keep making them.  The new crop of bikes
are way too expensive to be practical right now.  And the Lectra has
some problems too.  If they kept working on it for the last 10 years
it could be a much better bike.
>
> After riding mine a couple months now here's a few of shortcomings
for me.
>
> 1. It is too small.  I am just under 6 feet and 170 pounds but I
find it a little too low to the ground.  I think it is the geometry
of the small wheels.  While good for weight and the small wheel
allows them to put the motor on a reasonable sized swing arm it could
be a little bigger.  I don't think it is an accident that you don't
see any photos of men riding them on the web site.  Just standing
nearby in perspective.
>
> 2. The motor is too small.  Maybe a little more power would be nice
but more thermal mass and especially the ability to dissipate more
heat is needed.  It is much too easy to get the red T with only a
mile or two from a cold start without trying too hard.  And the motor
is still hot to the touch an hour later in the garage.
>
> 3. The instruments are not in a good place to view while riding. 
you have to look down to your crotch to see them.  (also my
speedometer is gebrokken but thats another problem probably related
to age).
>
> 4. Maybe age again the but the rear suspension has too little
travel or is too loose or something.  that could just need more
adjustment though.
>
> 5. The motor controller is nice and rugged but the electronics
under the "tank" is just a bare board with lots of exposure.  the
skins are a pain to get to fit right with the fuses hanging off the
edge of the board they are very exposed to damage as i found the hard
way.
>
>
>
> Don't get me wrong.  The Lectra has a lot more going right for it
and I have a blast driving it. 
>
> jv
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 7/13/08, David Herron <davidh@...> wrote:
> From: David Herron <davidh@...>
> Subject: [lectra] Re: lectra resurrection
> To: lectra@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 1:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "gyartz" <gyartz@>
wrote:
>
> >
>
> > i'm surprised that someone doesn't get a clue & start
manufacturing the
>
> > Lectra again.  in these days of high gas prices & people looking
for
>
> > alternative transportation, i think it would be a hot item seeing
how
>
> > sought after they seem to be now.  with new battery technology
right
>
> > around the corner now seems like the right time, not in the early
90's
>
> > when people could care less about something like this....
>
> >
>
>
>
> hm, interesting idea.  I had a funny experience one day riding my
>
> Lectra home.. while stopped at a stoplight this woman started
yelling
>
> at me from 3 lanes away asking where I got the bike.  When I yelled
>
> back that I'd built it (my Lectra is completely not stock) she
wanted
>
> me to build her one....sooo. ....
>
>
>
> There are a number of electric scooters and motorcycles on the
market
>
> or coming soon (Vectrix, Xtreme, Volta, etc)
>
>
>
> Building a duplicate of the Lectra?  Well, who has the construction
>
> plans and can recreate the controller etc?  I don't understand the
>
> value of the VR drive system (my Lectra is not stock and instead
uses
>
> a brushed series DC motor) but e.g. an AC or brushless DC drive
would
>
> be cool and capture most of the benefits of the VR (as I read them
on
>
> electricmotorbike. org last night).
>
>
>
> ZAP probably owns the rights to the Lectra ...?  If so, isn't it up
to
>
> ZAP to do something with the Lectra?  Oh, wait, we're talking about
>
> ZAP, never mind, they have a history of screwing up...   But there
are
>
> other designs and maybe someone could start with a similarly sized
>
> frame, design a bike out of that instead, and make a go under a
>
> different brand name etc.
>
>
>
> e.g. a couple days ago I came across the "Battery Box Motorcycle"
>
> where this guy had designed his own frame (out of aluminum) and is
>
> apparently planning to make a motorcycle company sooner or later.
>
>
>
> e.g. I found on ebay a couple months ago a manual labeled "The
>
> Electric Motorcycle Builders Manual" which was written in the mid
60's
>
> by a guy in Davis CA and goes through precise detailed construction
>
> plans on building an electric motorcycle from frame construction on
>
> up.   Oh, uh, the electronics part is pretty horrid (60's) but it's
>
> the frame that's the important part of it.
>
>
>
> - David


the Lectra i would imagine was mostly sold out west.  i live in OHIO
& i never seen one here.  i don't imagine it's lead acid battery pack
would perform here in the cold very well.  it was a cool bike for
it's time & unique.  as i already posted here i'm suroprised it
doesn't catch on today.  a lot of people are looking for this kind of
alternative fueled vehicle.  i am.
>

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, John Vail <groovyvida@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >well the new bike doesn't even have to be named lectra.  it could
be
>
> a totally new idea.  the lectra's weak spot i think is the lead
acid
>
> battery pack.  not really much useable range.  with new battery
>
> technology right around the corner it would probably triple the
>
> lectra's range.  i'm referring to the new lithium ion batteries
that
>
> will power the chevy volt which is going to be produced soon.
> In my experience the batteries are not the problem with the Lectra
at all.   I have maybe 12-15 miles for my longest trip and it hasn't
touched the first LED of power.  These are brand new Optima batteries
but still.  I don't feel like I am limited by range.  The limitation
is the size and speed.
> For the size and speed limitations it seems to have plenty of range.
> The other related limitation is the motor seems to reach the
thermal cutoff too quick with what seems to me to be no obvious
thought to increasing cooling.  It doesn't seem to conduct much into
the swingarm and there is no special cooling except some tiny fins on
the gearbox.
> Again, while I am critical of some of the things I see I love the
Lectra and I have fun riding it.  And as for selling mine when I have
only been riding it a couple months I need the money to finish my
ninja conversion and I don't need two bikes.  Very simple.

ya i heard about the motor overheating especially when using re-gen
braking.  does this system really make a difference?  it seems to me
it really would'nt make a difference.  your selling your bike?  which
state do ya live?
>

Hi I have a Lectra that seems to need new batteries   it showed all
green then the first light started flashing red and the second L E D
starting flashing greena and it died.  I have had this bike for at
leaset 6 years so the batteries may be dead.  does anyone know of a
more powerful, longer lasting battery?  thanks! Brad

My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but I think
needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls let me
know at pa234@...
tks  Brad

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@...> wrote:
>
> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but I think
> needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls let me
> know at pa234@...
> tks  Brad
>


how much?  where do ya live?

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "gyartz" <gyartz@...> wrote:
>
> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@> wrote:
> >
> > My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but I
think
> > needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls let
me
> > know at pa234@
> > tks  Brad
> >
>
>
> how much?  where do ya live?
>
well  any reasonable offer  how is 400$ you pick up  am in Danbury ct

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@...> wrote:
>
> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "gyartz" <gyartz@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but I
> think
> > > needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls let
> me
> > > know at pa234@
> > > tks  Brad
> > >
> >
> >
> > how much?  where do ya live?
> >
> well  any reasonable offer  how is 400$ you pick up  am in Danbury ct
>  do you mean $400.00?  that would be great if the bike's in great
condition just needing batteries, but the problem is i live in
Cleveland, OH  nobody seems to have one of these for sale near me.  i
would buy yours in a heartbeat if i lived closer, unless you have an
idea how it can be brought here cheap.  for commercial shipping it
wwould cost more than new batteries for the shipping alone!

What would it weigh with out the batteries?  And can you assist in
packing it?

thomaslectra wrote:
> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "gyartz" <gyartz@...> wrote:
>
>> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@> wrote:
>>
>>> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but I
>>>
> think
>
>>> needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls let
>>>
> me
>
>>> know at pa234@
>>> tks  Brad
>>>
>>>
>> how much?  where do ya live?
>>
>>
> well  any reasonable offer  how is 400$ you pick up  am in Danbury ct
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Well I am not sure  it was used for about 400 laps around my flat
development in the country.  it is in great shape. Happy to sell it
if anyone can figure out how to pick it up.  I am now older and
working a great deal and can't really enjoy it.


--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Niessen <gordon@...> wrote:
>
> What would it weigh with out the batteries?  And can you assist in
> packing it?
>
> thomaslectra wrote:
> > --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "gyartz" <gyartz@> wrote:
> >
> >> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but
I
> >>>
> > think
> >
> >>> needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls
let
> >>>
> > me
> >
> >>> know at pa234@
> >>> tks  Brad
> >>>
> >>>
> >> how much?  where do ya live?
> >>
> >>
> > well  any reasonable offer  how is 400$ you pick up  am in
Danbury ct
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

-HEY FOLKS I HAVE A GRET LECTRA WITH 403 MILES ON IT.  IT DIED AND
SCOTT THINKS IT NEEDS BATTERIES  I LOVE THE BIKE BUT DUE TO A 4 HOUR
ROUND TRIP COMMUTE NOW I NEVER GET TO USE IT. SOMEONE MAKE ANY
REASONABLE OFFER AND COME GET IT!  IT IS BLACK AND HAS A VOLK METER
THAT SCOTT AMDE FOR ME AS WELL AS REAR FOOT PEGS.  JUST LET ME KNOW
AT PA234@...







-- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@...> wrote:
>
> Well I am not sure  it was used for about 400 laps around my flat
> development in the country.  it is in great shape. Happy to sell it
> if anyone can figure out how to pick it up.  I am now older and
> working a great deal and can't really enjoy it.
>
>
> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Niessen <gordon@> wrote:
> >
> > What would it weigh with out the batteries?  And can you assist
in
> > packing it?
> >
> > thomaslectra wrote:
> > > --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "gyartz" <gyartz@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape but
> I
> > >>>
> > > think
> > >
> > >>> needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested pls
> let
> > >>>
> > > me
> > >
> > >>> know at pa234@
> > >>> tks  Brad
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> how much?  where do ya live?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > well  any reasonable offer  how is 400$ you pick up  am in
> Danbury ct
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Is this still available?

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@...>
wrote:
>
> -HEY FOLKS I HAVE A GRET LECTRA WITH 403 MILES ON IT.  IT DIED AND
> SCOTT THINKS IT NEEDS BATTERIES  I LOVE THE BIKE BUT DUE TO A 4
HOUR
> ROUND TRIP COMMUTE NOW I NEVER GET TO USE IT. SOMEONE MAKE ANY
> REASONABLE OFFER AND COME GET IT!  IT IS BLACK AND HAS A VOLK METER
> THAT SCOTT AMDE FOR ME AS WELL AS REAR FOOT PEGS.  JUST LET ME KNOW
> AT PA234@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I am not sure  it was used for about 400 laps around my flat
> > development in the country.  it is in great shape. Happy to sell
it
> > if anyone can figure out how to pick it up.  I am now older and
> > working a great deal and can't really enjoy it.
> >
> >
> > --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Niessen <gordon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What would it weigh with out the batteries?  And can you assist
> in
> > > packing it?
> > >
> > > thomaslectra wrote:
> > > > --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "gyartz" <gyartz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslectra"
<thomaslectra@>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape
but
> > I
> > > >>>
> > > > think
> > > >
> > > >>> needs batteries.  Need to seel it if anyone is interested
pls
> > let
> > > >>>
> > > > me
> > > >
> > > >>> know at pa234@
> > > >>> tks  Brad
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> how much?  where do ya live?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > well  any reasonable offer  how is 400$ you pick up  am in
> > Danbury ct
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

got an answer from Scott Cronk : no certification for Europe.

hey thomaslectra i sent ya an e-mail regarding the bike fore sale.  did
ya get it?

I finally got a response back from him.

He sold it on the first day.



--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, Russell Bond <illumicon@...> wrote:
>
> HI Thomas,
>  
> This is James (co-owner of the group ;o) I'm being abit lazy, I
just skimmed the posts & didnt notice if you'd said where you live.
Anywhere near Warrenton Missouri? I have some friends with a pick-up
out there, might be able to sort something out...
>
> TTFN - R. James - illumiconUK
>
> --- On Sat, 19/7/08, thomaslectra <thomaslectra@...> wrote:
>
> From: thomaslectra <thomaslectra@...>
> Subject: [lectra] Re: lectra for sale
> To: lectra@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 10:06 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -HEY FOLKS I HAVE A GRET LECTRA WITH 403 MILES ON IT. IT DIED AND
> SCOTT THINKS IT NEEDS BATTERIES I LOVE THE BIKE BUT DUE TO A 4 HOUR
> ROUND TRIP COMMUTE NOW I NEVER GET TO USE IT. SOMEONE MAKE ANY
> REASONABLE OFFER AND COME GET IT! IT IS BLACK AND HAS A VOLK METER
> THAT SCOTT AMDE FOR ME AS WELL AS REAR FOOT PEGS. JUST LET ME KNOW
> AT PA234@...
>
> -- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Well I am not sure it was used for about 400 laps around my flat
> > development in the country. it is in great shape. Happy to sell
it
> > if anyone can figure out how to pick it up. I am now older and
> > working a great deal and can't really enjoy it.
> >
> >
> > --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, Gordon Niessen <gordon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What would it weigh with out the batteries? And can you assist
> in
> > > packing it?
> > >
> > > thomaslectra wrote:
> > > > --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "gyartz" <gyartz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "thomaslectra"
<thomaslectra@ >
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape
but
> > I
> > > >>>
> > > > think
> > > >
> > > >>> needs batteries. Need to seel it if anyone is interested
pls
> > let
> > > >>>
> > > > me
> > > >
> > > >>> know at pa234@
> > > >>> tks Brad
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> how much? where do ya live?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > well any reasonable offer how is 400$ you pick up am in
> > Danbury ct
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > >
> > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/lectraYaho o! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "thumphrey" <thumphrey1@...> wrote:
>
> I finally got a response back from him.
>
> He sold it on the first day.
>
>
>
> --- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, Russell Bond <illumicon@> wrote:
> >
> > HI Thomas,
> >  
> > This is James (co-owner of the group ;o) I'm being abit lazy, I
> just skimmed the posts & didnt notice if you'd said where you live.
> Anywhere near Warrenton Missouri? I have some friends with a pick-
up
> out there, might be able to sort something out...
> >
> > TTFN - R. James - illumiconUK
> >
> > --- On Sat, 19/7/08, thomaslectra <thomaslectra@> wrote:
> >
> > From: thomaslectra <thomaslectra@>
> > Subject: [lectra] Re: lectra for sale
> > To: lectra@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 10:06 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -HEY FOLKS I HAVE A GRET LECTRA WITH 403 MILES ON IT. IT DIED AND
> > SCOTT THINKS IT NEEDS BATTERIES I LOVE THE BIKE BUT DUE TO A 4
HOUR
> > ROUND TRIP COMMUTE NOW I NEVER GET TO USE IT. SOMEONE MAKE ANY
> > REASONABLE OFFER AND COME GET IT! IT IS BLACK AND HAS A VOLK
METER
> > THAT SCOTT AMDE FOR ME AS WELL AS REAR FOOT PEGS. JUST LET ME
KNOW
> > AT PA234@
> >
> > -- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "thomaslectra" <thomaslectra@ ...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well I am not sure it was used for about 400 laps around my
flat
> > > development in the country. it is in great shape. Happy to sell
> it
> > > if anyone can figure out how to pick it up. I am now older and
> > > working a great deal and can't really enjoy it.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, Gordon Niessen <gordon@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What would it weigh with out the batteries? And can you
assist
> > in
> > > > packing it?
> > > >
> > > > thomaslectra wrote:
> > > > > --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "gyartz" <gyartz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> --- In lectra@yahoogroups. com, "thomaslectra"
> <thomaslectra@ >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> My black lectra has 403 miles on it and is in great shape
> but
> > > I
> > > > >>>
> > > > > think
> > > > >
> > > > >>> needs batteries. Need to seel it if anyone is interested
> pls
> > > let
> > > > >>>
> > > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > >>> know at pa234@
> > > > >>> tks Brad
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> how much? where do ya live?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > > well any reasonable offer how is 400$ you pick up am in
> > > Danbury ct
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/lectraYaho o! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > thanks for the info.  i'm glad someone answered my question!  i
posted a message here about this recently & i will again comment on
this.  i don't understand why they don't produce these bikes again
with their high demand nowadays.  i see those overpriced ego cycles
selling like hot cakes & they really ain't worth the money they sell
for in my opinion.  they really are just small bikes with motors on
them.  i'm sure the lectra crowd would put them to shame, but we'll
never see it happen it looks like....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

Hi All,
   I have a gray one, for sale. I really have no interest in packing it, so if
you are interested, you can come by.
It worked up to 3 years ago, but I moved out of range of driving to my work. I
was doing a 12 mile commute to work and charging in the parking lot, but no more
:(
This one has the higher speed sprocket and the optional voltmeter.
I would say that it is in good, but not excellent condition, it had a 1mph tip
over on the right side, so the bottom right corner of the fairing is scratched
(but in a place that is not really noticable).
I can send a photo to those interested.
   A year ago, I tried it and it would go around the block, but the battery would
then die, so new batteries are in order.
I tested the cells then and it looked like one of the batteries were dead, so I
bought a new yellowtop for it, but with the baby was too busy to work on it.
   I am now riding a highway (very capable) scooter, so I don't think I will be
going back to the Lectra.
Hopefully someone will be able to use mine.

-Jim

HEY !
my name is ali and i have been a silent member of this lectra
community for a long time......so can you people please explain me
what is it all about.....it was just this that i wanted to know the
machenism of an electric bike, thats why i joined this group....i m
really intrested in knowing how does it works, what sort of engine
does it has....and all the stuff.....i live in Pakistan...so there is
no eletric bike in Pakistan....

everything you need to know about this no longer in production motorcycle is on
http://electricmotorbike.com

If you are looking for something closer to you, India has been making electric
bikes for relatively cheap and may be in your price range. 
http://www.genxt.com/products.htm

In addition, http://electricmotorsport.com has a Thai company making their
eBoxer that you might also get shipped to you.

Or the cheaper route is convert an existing frame to electric.  Examples are
available http://www.evalbum.com/type/MTCY or how-to convert to electric
motorcycle at instructables.com

Another how-to is available on youtube.com search for "evmotorcycle"

Good luck and happy riding.


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, m.ali_capital wrote:


> HEY !
> my name is ali and i have been a silent member of this
> lectra
> community for a long time......so can you people please
> explain me
> what is it all about.....it was just this that i wanted to
> know the
> machenism of an electric bike, thats why i joined this
> group....i m
> really intrested in knowing how does it works, what sort of
> engine
> does it has....and all the stuff.....i live in
> Pakistan...so there is
> no eletric bike in Pakistan....
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

correction:

http://www.electricmotorbike.org


> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 4:05 AM
> everything you need to know about this no longer in
> production motorcycle is on http://electricmotorbike.com
>
> If you are looking for something closer to you, India has
> been making electric bikes for relatively cheap and may be
> in your price range.  http://www.genxt.com/products.htm
>
> In addition, http://electricmotorsport.com has a Thai
> company making their eBoxer that you might also get shipped
> to you.
>
> Or the cheaper route is convert an existing frame to
> electric.  Examples are available
> http://www.evalbum.com/type/MTCY or how-to convert to
> electric motorcycle at instructables.com
>
> Another how-to is available on youtube.com search for
> "evmotorcycle"
>
> Good luck and happy riding.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 8/8/08, m.ali_capital wrote:
>
>
> > HEY !
> > my name is ali and i have been a silent member of this
> > lectra
> > community for a long time......so can you people
> please
> > explain me
> > what is it all about.....it was just this that i
> wanted to
> > know the
> > machenism of an electric bike, thats why i joined this
> > group....i m
> > really intrested in knowing how does it works, what
> sort of
> > engine
> > does it has....and all the stuff.....i live in
> > Pakistan...so there is
> > no eletric bike in Pakistan....
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups
> Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lectraYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Natural gas is one of the world's most important fossil fuels. The
denotation of "fossil fuel" comes from the belief that most
scientists share, that natural gas and other "fossil fuels" were
formed from the remains of tiny sea animals and plants that perished
200-400 million years ago. Scientists believe that when these tiny
organisms died, they sank to the bottom of the ocean, where over many
years, the pressure created by the ever-thickening layers of ocean
floor combined with the earth's heat to change the molecular
structure of the organic remains into deposits of petroleum and
natural gas.
Natural gas only occurs in the areas of the earth where this built up
pressure and volcanic heat combine to produce the necessary chemical
reaction for production. Geologists are able to locate natural gas
deposits by studying the types of rock and formations that usually
occur where gas is present. Raw natural gas is a mixture of gases
whose main ingredient, methane, is a natural occurring compound
formed when plant and animal matter decays. It is odorless,
colorless, and tasteless, so companies like Triple Diamond Energy
Corp add a chemical with a sulfuric smell like rotten eggs so that
leaks can be detected quickly, otherwise the volatile fuel leaking
could rapidly lead to dangerous situations within the home or
industrial environments....

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waterforfueld

I wonder if someone else has this behavior and/or knows how to deal with
it.  My lectra has a stock frame but totally non-stock electronics,
FWIW.  The battery pack is 60v at 50ah and if looking through the EV
Album and comparing ranges with what I get, the 10-12 mile range I get
appears to be low compared to other EV Motorcycles with similar packs.
The others are getting 20 miles or more but I get 10-12 and then only if
I'm real careful on the throttle and ride at 30 miles/hr for half the
ride.

One issue that stands out is, when pushing the bike around, it feels
like there's a lot of resistence.  My gas bike rolls around very easily
with little resistence, but the Lectra you have to push it real hard to
roll it around.  Further I did a test a few months ago to measure the
coast-down time from 40 miles/hr to 0 miles/hr and the Lectra coasted
down in 1/2 the time of my gas motorcycle.  Final observation is that
with the bike up on a lift, trying to spin the rear wheel takes a lot of
effort, while the front wheel rolls pretty freely.

Those go together making me think that it's likely if there was a way to
make the Lectra roll more freely then the range would increase.

Clearly one big difference is when I'm rolling the gas bike around the
transmission is in neutral while on the Lectra there is no transmission
and the motor is engaged with the wheel.  FWIW the motor is an advanced
DC A89 (6.7"), using #41 chain, and I've not checked the gear ratio.
When I installed the chain back in February it was a very tight fit but
I'd expect it's stretched a bit by now.

The next thing is the swing arm... I don't understand how this swing arm
works .. the axle goes into these two round things which appear to be
surrounded by bits of swing arm that are held together with an
allen-headed bolt at the end.  The axle is for some reason off-center,
it doesn't really make sense to me why, and there is a turnbuckle on
each whose purpose appears to be to adjust where the axle is
rotationally and maybe the purpose of the axle being off-center is to
assist in adjusting chain tension.

I'd done a bit of searching this group and saw the word "eccentrics"
applied to the rear wheel.  Is that what this weirdo swing arm is, an
eccentric?

In any case it seems possible there might be a swing arm adjustment
which might make the rear wheel roll more freely.  But it should be
clear by now I totally do not understand the mechanics of this swing
arm.

The rear brake appears to be fine.  The cable has a slight bit of slack
and on operating the rear brake lever cable the bike slows down
appropriately.  I doubt the rear brake is binding any.

Hi,

I am a new owner of a Lectra. #26. I am looking for information in the
speedo cable, as mine is broken, and I will need to address it for
inspection. Is there a repository of available Lectra parts? Or a list
of shared parts with other scooters/motorcycles?

I just installed Werker/BatteriesPlus/Rayovac group 34 batteries. We
will see how they work.

Seth

I suspect the chain is too tight. I've had that same exact symptom
show up on a few chain driven scooters I've worked on.

One really quick way to verify it is take the chain off and see how
well the wheel rolls. (or just loosen it...) On the scooters just a
half turn on the adjusters made all the difference, I can't see with
my eye any movement or feel with my fingers any difference in chain
tension but the wheel spin tells the whole tale.




--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "David Herron" <davidh@...> wrote:
>
> I wonder if someone else has this behavior and/or knows how to deal
with
> it.  My lectra has a stock frame but totally non-stock electronics,
> FWIW.  The battery pack is 60v at 50ah and if looking through the EV
> Album and comparing ranges with what I get, the 10-12 mile range I
get
> appears to be low compared to other EV Motorcycles with similar
packs.
> The others are getting 20 miles or more but I get 10-12 and then
only if
> I'm real careful on the throttle and ride at 30 miles/hr for half
the
> ride.
>
> One issue that stands out is, when pushing the bike around, it feels
> like there's a lot of resistence.  My gas bike rolls around very
easily
> with little resistence, but the Lectra you have to push it real
hard to
> roll it around.  Further I did a test a few months ago to measure
the
> coast-down time from 40 miles/hr to 0 miles/hr and the Lectra
coasted
> down in 1/2 the time of my gas motorcycle.  Final observation is
that
> with the bike up on a lift, trying to spin the rear wheel takes a
lot of
> effort, while the front wheel rolls pretty freely.
>
> Those go together making me think that it's likely if there was a
way to
> make the Lectra roll more freely then the range would increase.
>
> Clearly one big difference is when I'm rolling the gas bike around
the
> transmission is in neutral while on the Lectra there is no
transmission
> and the motor is engaged with the wheel.  FWIW the motor is an
advanced
> DC A89 (6.7"), using #41 chain, and I've not checked the gear
ratio.
> When I installed the chain back in February it was a very tight fit
but
> I'd expect it's stretched a bit by now.
>
> The next thing is the swing arm... I don't understand how this
swing arm
> works .. the axle goes into these two round things which appear to
be
> surrounded by bits of swing arm that are held together with an
> allen-headed bolt at the end.  The axle is for some reason off-
center,
> it doesn't really make sense to me why, and there is a turnbuckle on
> each whose purpose appears to be to adjust where the axle is
> rotationally and maybe the purpose of the axle being off-center is
to
> assist in adjusting chain tension.
>
> I'd done a bit of searching this group and saw the word "eccentrics"
> applied to the rear wheel.  Is that what this weirdo swing arm is,
an
> eccentric?
>
> In any case it seems possible there might be a swing arm adjustment
> which might make the rear wheel roll more freely.  But it should be
> clear by now I totally do not understand the mechanics of this swing
> arm.
>
> The rear brake appears to be fine.  The cable has a slight bit of
slack
> and on operating the rear brake lever cable the bike slows down
> appropriately.  I doubt the rear brake is binding any.
>

I suspect the chain is too tight. I've had that same exact symptom
show up on a few chain driven scooters I've worked on.

One really quick way to verify it is take the chain off and see how
well the wheel rolls. (or just loosen it...) On the scooters just a
half turn on the adjusters made all the difference, I can't see with
my eye any movement or feel with my fingers any difference in chain
tension but the wheel spin tells the whole tale.

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "David Herron" <davidh@...> wrote:
>
> I wonder if someone else has this behavior and/or knows how to deal
with
> it. My lectra has a stock frame but totally non-stock electronics,
> FWIW. The battery pack is 60v at 50ah and if looking through the EV
> Album and comparing ranges with what I get, the 10-12 mile range I
get
> appears to be low compared to other EV Motorcycles with similar
packs.
> The others are getting 20 miles or more but I get 10-12 and then
only if
> I'm real careful on the throttle and ride at 30 miles/hr for half
the
> ride.
>
> One issue that stands out is, when pushing the bike around, it feels
> like there's a lot of resistence. My gas bike rolls around very
easily
> with little resistence, but the Lectra you have to push it real
hard to
> roll it around. Further I did a test a few months ago to measure
the
> coast-down time from 40 miles/hr to 0 miles/hr and the Lectra
coasted
> down in 1/2 the time of my gas motorcycle. Final observation is
that
> with the bike up on a lift, trying to spin the rear wheel takes a
lot of
> effort, while the front wheel rolls pretty freely.
>
> Those go together making me think that it's likely if there was a
way to
> make the Lectra roll more freely then the range would increase.
>
> Clearly one big difference is when I'm rolling the gas bike around
the
> transmission is in neutral while on the Lectra there is no
transmission
> and the motor is engaged with the wheel. FWIW the motor is an
advanced
> DC A89 (6.7"), using #41 chain, and I've not checked the gear
ratio.
> When I installed the chain back in February it was a very tight fit
but
> I'd expect it's stretched a bit by now.
>
> The next thing is the swing arm... I don't understand how this
swing arm
> works .. the axle goes into these two round things which appear to
be
> surrounded by bits of swing arm that are held together with an
> allen-headed bolt at the end. The axle is for some reason off-
center,
> it doesn't really make sense to me why, and there is a turnbuckle on
> each whose purpose appears to be to adjust where the axle is
> rotationally and maybe the purpose of the axle being off-center is
to
> assist in adjusting chain tension.
>
> I'd done a bit of searching this group and saw the word "eccentrics"
> applied to the rear wheel. Is that what this weirdo swing arm is,
an
> eccentric?
>
> In any case it seems possible there might be a swing arm adjustment
> which might make the rear wheel roll more freely. But it should be
> clear by now I totally do not understand the mechanics of this swing
> arm.
>
> The rear brake appears to be fine. The cable has a slight bit of
slack
> and on operating the rear brake lever cable the bike slows down
> appropriately. I doubt the rear brake is binding any.
>

To minimize rolling resitance:

(1) Make sure you use a NON-sealed chain .... sealed (O-ring) chains
have about 10-15% more resistance than stock roller chains;
(2) Tire pressure should also be set at the high end of the tire rating.
(3) Make sure your brakes do not bind, rub or otherwise contact the
brake pads with any significant pressure (when not applied).
(4) The other variable which affects rolling resistance is weight, but
there is not much you can do about that.

If you are using a brush motor (sounds like you are) the brushes
themselves will account for some rolling resistance.  And if geared
low, this resistance will feel greater as the chain/sprocket ratio
effectively increases motor resistance felt at the wheel (when
coasting).... for example, 1 ft-lb of resistance at the motor would be
> 8 ft-lbs at the wheel if the chain ratio is 8:1

The rear axle on the Lectra is off center to allow for proper
alignment of the Lectra (stock) rear wheel componentry.

Best regards,
Scott Cronk
Founder, Electric Motorbike Inc.

--- In lectra@yahoogroups.com, "David Herron" <davidh@...> wrote:
>
> I wonder if someone else has this behavior and/or knows how to deal with
> it.  My lectra has a stock frame but totally non-stock electronics,
> FWIW.  The battery pack is 60v at 50ah and if looking through the EV
> Album and comparing ranges with what I get, the 10-12 mile range I get
> appears to be low compared to other EV Motorcycles with similar packs.
> The others are getting 20 miles or more but I get 10-12 and then only if
> I'm real careful on the throttle and ride at 30 miles/hr for half the
> ride.
>
> One issue that stands out is, when pushing the bike around, it feels
> like there's a lot of resistence.  My gas bike rolls around very easily
> with little resistence, but the Lectra you have to push it real hard to
> roll it around.  Further I did a test a few months ago to measure the
> coast-down time from 40 miles/hr to 0 miles/hr and the Lectra coasted
> down in 1/2 the time of my gas motorcycle.  Final observation is that
> with the bike up on a lift, trying to spin the rear wheel takes a lot of
> effort, while the front wheel rolls pretty freely.
>
> Those go together making me think that it's likely if there was a way to
> make the Lectra roll more freely then the range would increase.
>
> Clearly one big difference is when I'm rolling the gas bike around the
> transmission is in neutral while on the Lectra there is no transmission
> and the motor is engaged with the wheel.  FWIW the motor is an advanced
> DC A89 (6.7"), using #41 chain, and I've not checked the gear ratio.
> When I installed the chain back in February it was a very tight fit but
> I'd expect it's stretched a bit by now.
>
> The next thing is the swing arm... I don't understand how this swing arm
> works .. the axle goes into these two round things which appear to be
> surrounded by bits of swing arm that are held together with an
> allen-headed bolt at the end.  The axle is for some reason off-center,
> it doesn't really make sense to me why, and there is a turnbuckle on
> each whose purpose appears to be to adjust where the axle is
> rotationally and maybe the purpose of the axle being off-center is to
> assist in adjusting chain tension.
>
> I'd done a bit of searching this group and saw the word "eccentrics"
> applied to the rear wheel.  Is that what this weirdo swing arm is, an
> eccentric?
>
> In any case it seems possible there might be a swing arm adjustment
> which might make the rear wheel roll more freely.  But it should be
> clear by now I totally do not understand the mechanics of this swing
> arm.
>
> The rear brake appears to be fine.  The cable has a slight bit of slack
> and on operating the rear brake lever cable the bike slows down
> appropriately.  I doubt the rear brake is binding any.
>