Given that MySQL is a competitor of Oracle and that Oracle will almost
certainly let MySQL die, this sale should be prohibited by federal statute.

> Sun and Oracle today announced a definitive agreement for Oracle to
> acquire Sun for $9.50 per share in cash. The Sun Board of Directors has
> unanimously approved the transaction. It is anticipated to close this
> summer.
>
>
>
> http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/2009-0420/index.jsp

Hello,

i've somes problem to install qnx on my laptop indeed at the begin of the
install the qxn doesn't find the hd drive so... i've done with success the same
thing with other old laptop without problem but in this case i thing my qnx
doesn't support the controller sata ahci and the disk drive is a toshiba
mk8052gsx.
Anyone knows where i can find this driver / patch ??
thanks in advance

Lpa

Hi
I know they aren't cheep but what about a slid state drive (SSD) they are
getting lower and lower in price buy the month and their are even a few of them
that support PATA 100 as well. I would say the 128GB modells are resonably
priced. You need to install drivers etc offcourse but if you are willing to open
your laptop with a screwdriver you probably can fix that too.

Go to a shooping site and search for good prices on a flash drive its the future
anyway.
\Peter

--- Den sön 2008-12-14 skrev Ardell Faul <ardell@...>:

> Från: Ardell Faul <ardell@...>
> Ämne: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] internal hard drive DELL800 latitude
> Till: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
> Datum: söndag 14 december 2008 07.17
> For what it's worth, I see a lot of failed hard drives
> in the laptop
> repair business, and my experience has been that the drives
> most prone
> to fail are the ones over 100Gbyte. In fact, I don't
> think I have ever
> had to replace a drive in the 40 to 80 Gbyte range.  And
> almost without
> exception, the drives I see in laptops almost never have
> anything like
> even 40 gbytes of data in them. Anybody who downloads and
> carrys around
> 160 Gbytes worth of important data in a laptop is being
> foolish.  Very
> foolish.  They are just asking for it, and they usually get
> it.  I don't
> understand why anybody would even WANT to put a very large
> hard drive in
> a laptop.  If you want to collect a lot of music or video,
> an external
> backup drive or a desktop drive is a much more sane choice.
>  It is just
> plain stupid to carry around a laptop with a lot of data
> stored in the
> hard drive.  One slip of the hand, or a good solid thump
> under the area
> where the hard drive is, and you can kiss all your data
> goodbye.
>
> I guess it is the Geek Squad blurb, you know--put in a 160
> Gbyte hard
> drive, 2 gigs of memory, and flash the BIOS and you will
> have a
> screaming machine.
>
> What a bunch of shit that is.
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa.  99206
> ardell@...
> 509-891-5188
>
>
>
> kiyer25 wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My 80 GB 7200 rpm internal hard drive (hitachi) died
> (just 3 year and 1
> > month). I would like to buy a internal hard drive
> which is reliable and
> > best one with reasonable price as well.
> >
> > I am looking for 160 GB with 5400 or 7200 hard drive.
> >
> > It is IDE 2.5, ata 100, 8MB buffer. Really appreciate
> suggestion and
> > any inputs to buy a new approbriate internal hard
> drive for my DELL800.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > cheers
> > kris
> >
> >
>
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At Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:13:05 -0400 Jim Diamond <zsd@...> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 15:59 (-0600), bil wrote:
>
>> I remember reading some battery performanace tests, from Phronix I
>> think, that said 5200 rpm provided better life
> The specs I read from the manufacturers indicated the newer generation
> 7200's were no more power hungry than the older 5400's.  I didn't look
> and see if the newer 5400's (if there were any at the time) were
> different than the old 5400's (it wouldn't be surprising if the were
> better).
>
>> and the read write performace was not much slower then 7200 rpm with
>> larger disks since the data is packed so close together on the disk
>> platter.
> ? If the disks have the same density, the 7200 RPM one should read
> 72/54 times as fast once the reading/writing starts, no?

Sure, but for modest blocksizes the transfer time you mention is less
than either the seek time or rotational latency.
Rotational latency for 7200 would be only 54/72 that of a 5400
(analogous to your point about transfer time).

allan

Almost totally agree with Ardell, but it depends on the computing
needs of a person. I'm in the low profile side, since I don't have
multi core cpus to do all the "simple" computing I do.

And a personal advice: *do* backup all of your valuable data.

[]s, lymber
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===============================================================================

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 15:59 (-0600), bil wrote:

> I remember reading some battery performanace tests, from Phronix I
> think, that said 5200 rpm provided better life
The specs I read from the manufacturers indicated the newer generation
7200's were no more power hungry than the older 5400's.  I didn't look
and see if the newer 5400's (if there were any at the time) were
different than the old 5400's (it wouldn't be surprising if the were
better).

> and the read write performace was not much slower then 7200 rpm with
> larger disks since the data is packed so close together on the disk
> platter.
? If the disks have the same density, the 7200 RPM one should read
72/54 times as fast once the reading/writing starts, no?

Cheers.
				 Jim

I remember reading some battery performanace tests, from Phronix I think, that
said 5200 rpm provided better life and the read write performace was not much
slower then 7200 rpm with larger disks since the data is packed so close
together on the disk platter.  They also did not see any battery life
increase with solid state drives.

On Saturday 13 December 2008 11:20:19 pm kiyer25 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My 80 GB 7200 rpm internal hard drive (hitachi) died (just 3 year and 1
> month). I would like to buy a internal hard drive which is reliable and
> best one with reasonable price as well.
>
> I am looking for 160 GB with 5400 or 7200 hard drive.
>
> It is IDE 2.5, ata 100, 8MB buffer. Really appreciate suggestion and
> any inputs to buy a new approbriate internal hard drive for my DELL800.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> cheers
> kris

At Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:26:37 -0400 Jim Diamond <zsd@...> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:14 (-0500), Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>
>> I agree.  At home every morning I do a backup (dump) from the laptop to
>> a desktop and via the internet to New York University, where I teach.
>> Those days when I go to work, I do an additional backup to NYU and often
>> a third to both sites when I come home.  All these are performed
>> partition to partition on the laptop in single user mode and then the
>> directory containing the dumps is rsync'ed to the desktop(s) in
>> multiuser mode.  Plus I have a cron job that does an rsync of the
>> live filesystem.
>
>> I find it very convenient to have all my data with me at both sites.
>
> Have you considered Unison?  I've been using that for a while, with
> good success.  On the days when I go in to my university (Acadia), I
> often work from my desktop, which means my updates need to be done
> bi-directionally, which Unison handles nicely.

I don't see much different.  I plug my monitor and keyboard/mouse into
the laptop; every hour my files are rsync'ed to the desktop and I have
the single user dumps one or more times a day that are also on desktops

> And when at home, I "backup" to another laptop there with Unison.
>
> Ardell's comment that "having all of your valuable data only on your
> laptop is dangerous" (which was part of what I snipped out) is quite
> valid, it is too bad that he chose to phrase it in the way he did.
> Regardless of how the message was delivered, at the risk of sounding
> preachy, I encourage all of you to realize that it is not "if" your
> disk goes bad, it is "when".

I agree and *when* my laptop disk went bad a year ago, nyu loaned me
another laptop while I ordered a replacement.  My dumps were valid and I
lost no data.

I am not arguing against keeping the master copy on a desktop or server,
just that the "primary laptop" is viable as well.

allan

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:14 (-0500), Allan Gottlieb wrote:

> At Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:39:21 -0400 Jim Diamond <zsd@...> wrote:

>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 22:17 (-0800), Ardell Faul wrote:

...snipped...

>>> What a bunch of shit that is.

>> Your reply is neither helpful nor well-thought out.  Just because
>> someone has a large drive in their laptop does not mean that they
>> don't have it backed up somewhere, so your assumption that they will
>> lose all their data if their disk goes kaput is just silly.

>> Second, Kris didn't say his data is important.

>> Third, the point of having a laptop is mobility.  There is no point in
>> having a laptop if you have to carry around your desktop or external
>> drives to get at your data.

>> Or maybe I'm just a foolish person, like almost everyone I know who
>> uses their laptop as their primary computing platform.

> I agree.  At home every morning I do a backup (dump) from the laptop to
> a desktop and via the internet to New York University, where I teach.
> Those days when I go to work, I do an additional backup to NYU and often
> a third to both sites when I come home.  All these are performed
> partition to partition on the laptop in single user mode and then the
> directory containing the dumps is rsync'ed to the desktop(s) in
> multiuser mode.  Plus I have a cron job that does an rsync of the
> live filesystem.

> I find it very convenient to have all my data with me at both sites.

Have you considered Unison?  I've been using that for a while, with
good success.  On the days when I go in to my university (Acadia), I
often work from my desktop, which means my updates need to be done
bi-directionally, which Unison handles nicely.

And when at home, I "backup" to another laptop there with Unison.

Ardell's comment that "having all of your valuable data only on your
laptop is dangerous" (which was part of what I snipped out) is quite
valid, it is too bad that he chose to phrase it in the way he did.
Regardless of how the message was delivered, at the risk of sounding
preachy, I encourage all of you to realize that it is not "if" your
disk goes bad, it is "when".  You might be thinking that "it has never
happened to me", but there are a lot of people who *used to* think the
exact same way.  At my university, all of the students have had
laptops for something like the last 10 or 12 years.  And as much as
you can warn people about not abusing their laptop and backing up
their data, there are always a few who find out the hard way that
disks occasionally fail.

Cheers.
				 Jim

At Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:39:21 -0400 Jim Diamond <zsd@...> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 22:17 (-0800), Ardell Faul wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I see a lot of failed hard drives in the laptop
>> repair business, and my experience has been that the drives most prone
>> to fail are the ones over 100Gbyte. In fact, I don't think I have ever
>> had to replace a drive in the 40 to 80 Gbyte range.  And almost without
>> exception, the drives I see in laptops almost never have anything like
>> even 40 gbytes of data in them. Anybody who downloads and carrys around
>> 160 Gbytes worth of important data in a laptop is being foolish.  Very
>> foolish.  They are just asking for it, and they usually get it.  I don't
>> understand why anybody would even WANT to put a very large hard drive in
>> a laptop.  If you want to collect a lot of music or video, an external
>> backup drive or a desktop drive is a much more sane choice.  It is just
>> plain stupid to carry around a laptop with a lot of data stored in the
>> hard drive.  One slip of the hand, or a good solid thump under the area
>> where the hard drive is, and you can kiss all your data goodbye.
>
>> I guess it is the Geek Squad blurb, you know--put in a 160 Gbyte hard
>> drive, 2 gigs of memory, and flash the BIOS and you will have a
>> screaming machine.
>
>> What a bunch of shit that is.
>
> Your reply is neither helpful nor well-thought out.  Just because
> someone has a large drive in their laptop does not mean that they
> don't have it backed up somewhere, so your assumption that they will
> lose all their data if their disk goes kaput is just silly.
>
> Second, Kris didn't say his data is important.
>
> Third, the point of having a laptop is mobility.  There is no point in
> having a laptop if you have to carry around your desktop or external
> drives to get at your data.
>
> Or maybe I'm just a foolish person, like almost everyone I know who
> uses their laptop as their primary computing platform.

I agree.  At home every morning I do a backup (dump) from the laptop to
a desktop and via the internet to New York University, where I teach.
Those days when I go to work, I do an additional backup to NYU and often
a third to both sites when I come home.  All these are performed
partition to partition on the laptop in single user mode and then the
directory containing the dumps is rsync'ed to the desktop(s) in
multiuser mode.  Plus I have a cron job that does an rsync of the
live filesystem.

I find it very convenient to have all my data with me at both sites.

allan

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 22:17 (-0800), Ardell Faul wrote:

> For what it's worth, I see a lot of failed hard drives in the laptop
> repair business, and my experience has been that the drives most prone
> to fail are the ones over 100Gbyte. In fact, I don't think I have ever
> had to replace a drive in the 40 to 80 Gbyte range.  And almost without
> exception, the drives I see in laptops almost never have anything like
> even 40 gbytes of data in them. Anybody who downloads and carrys around
> 160 Gbytes worth of important data in a laptop is being foolish.  Very
> foolish.  They are just asking for it, and they usually get it.  I don't
> understand why anybody would even WANT to put a very large hard drive in
> a laptop.  If you want to collect a lot of music or video, an external
> backup drive or a desktop drive is a much more sane choice.  It is just
> plain stupid to carry around a laptop with a lot of data stored in the
> hard drive.  One slip of the hand, or a good solid thump under the area
> where the hard drive is, and you can kiss all your data goodbye.

> I guess it is the Geek Squad blurb, you know--put in a 160 Gbyte hard
> drive, 2 gigs of memory, and flash the BIOS and you will have a
> screaming machine.

> What a bunch of shit that is.

Your reply is neither helpful nor well-thought out.  Just because
someone has a large drive in their laptop does not mean that they
don't have it backed up somewhere, so your assumption that they will
lose all their data if their disk goes kaput is just silly.

Second, Kris didn't say his data is important.

Third, the point of having a laptop is mobility.  There is no point in
having a laptop if you have to carry around your desktop or external
drives to get at your data.

Or maybe I'm just a foolish person, like almost everyone I know who
uses their laptop as their primary computing platform.


> kiyer25 wrote:

>> Hi all,

>> My 80 GB 7200 rpm internal hard drive (hitachi) died (just 3 year and 1
>> month). I would like to buy a internal hard drive which is reliable and
>> best one with reasonable price as well.

>> I am looking for 160 GB with 5400 or 7200 hard drive.

>> It is IDE 2.5, ata 100, 8MB buffer. Really appreciate suggestion and
>> any inputs to buy a new approbriate internal hard drive for my DELL800.

>> Thanks a lot

Kris (and other apparently foolish people :-)

I put a Seagate Momentus ST9320421AS 320 GB 7200 RPM disk in my laptop
a few months ago, and I have no complaints.  This was a "state of the
art" disk when I bought it, but it wouldn't surprise me that it is now
last week's news.

I see that Hitachi has dropped the price on their 320 GB 7200 RPM
laptop drive (e.g, HTS723232L9A360 in their 7K320 series) to under
$100 here in Canada; YMMV.  (I might have picked that one had it been
available at the time I bought this disk (May or June, for nearly
twice that price!).)

Fujitsu also has an offering, MHZ2320BJ.

All of these disks are very similar is performance and power
consumption specs (as near as I can tell: they use different ways of
specifying some of the specs).  They all have 16 MB buffers and 300
MB/sec data transfer rates (interface, not media).

Seagate had a 5 year warranty,  Fujitsu was 3 years, I don't have the
info for Hitachi.

WD also made a 320 GB 7200 drive, but there was something about it I
didn't like (possibly performance was lower).


Someone (Fujitsu?) announced a 500 GB drive some time around June, but
it was only a 5400 RPM drive.  For me, speed was more important than
the extra space (320 is plenty for me), but you may have a different
viewpoint.

There are variations on the models, some including built-in
encryption, others with G-force sensors, others with blah blah blah.
But trying to find those extra features at your favourite discount
parts store may be tricky.

Anyway, you should be able to find something you like at a reasonable
price.

Cheers.
				 Jim

I read your profile today, I thought I would drop you a line and hope to become
your friend! Check my personal page here:
http://srtyhgfh.topcities.com/friend.htm

Hi Ardell Faul,

Seems you are frustrated or trying to blame everyone who is having
the internal hard drive with large size.

I did asked for the suggestion and recommendation with respect to
buying internal hard drive approbriate to my laptop.

Your reply neither help or useless with respect to my question, it
would much more appreciate and valued if you give me the suggestion
to buy right one with either low or higher size or rpm rather than
critise them without even knowing individual needs. Seems that your
lack of understanding.

hope you will get little matured and civilized in replying
appropriate to the questions or needs.

have a good day (try to cool yourself down)



--- In linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com, Ardell Faul <ardell@...>
wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, I see a lot of failed hard drives in the
laptop
> repair business, and my experience has been that the drives most
prone
> to fail are the ones over 100Gbyte. In fact, I don't think I have
ever
> had to replace a drive in the 40 to 80 Gbyte range.  And almost
without
> exception, the drives I see in laptops almost never have anything
like
> even 40 gbytes of data in them. Anybody who downloads and carrys
around
> 160 Gbytes worth of important data in a laptop is being foolish.
Very
> foolish.  They are just asking for it, and they usually get it.  I
don't
> understand why anybody would even WANT to put a very large hard
drive in
> a laptop.  If you want to collect a lot of music or video, an
external
> backup drive or a desktop drive is a much more sane choice.  It is
just
> plain stupid to carry around a laptop with a lot of data stored in
the
> hard drive.  One slip of the hand, or a good solid thump under the
area
> where the hard drive is, and you can kiss all your data goodbye.
>
> I guess it is the Geek Squad blurb, you know--put in a 160 Gbyte
hard
> drive, 2 gigs of memory, and flash the BIOS and you will have a
> screaming machine.
>
> What a bunch of shit that is.
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa.  99206
> ardell@...
> 509-891-5188
>
>
>
> kiyer25 wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My 80 GB 7200 rpm internal hard drive (hitachi) died (just 3 year
and 1
> > month). I would like to buy a internal hard drive which is
reliable and
> > best one with reasonable price as well.
> >
> > I am looking for 160 GB with 5400 or 7200 hard drive.
> >
> > It is IDE 2.5, ata 100, 8MB buffer. Really appreciate suggestion
and
> > any inputs to buy a new approbriate internal hard drive for my
DELL800.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > cheers
> > kris
> >
> >
>

For what it's worth, I see a lot of failed hard drives in the laptop
repair business, and my experience has been that the drives most prone
to fail are the ones over 100Gbyte. In fact, I don't think I have ever
had to replace a drive in the 40 to 80 Gbyte range.  And almost without
exception, the drives I see in laptops almost never have anything like
even 40 gbytes of data in them. Anybody who downloads and carrys around
160 Gbytes worth of important data in a laptop is being foolish.  Very
foolish.  They are just asking for it, and they usually get it.  I don't
understand why anybody would even WANT to put a very large hard drive in
a laptop.  If you want to collect a lot of music or video, an external
backup drive or a desktop drive is a much more sane choice.  It is just
plain stupid to carry around a laptop with a lot of data stored in the
hard drive.  One slip of the hand, or a good solid thump under the area
where the hard drive is, and you can kiss all your data goodbye.

I guess it is the Geek Squad blurb, you know--put in a 160 Gbyte hard
drive, 2 gigs of memory, and flash the BIOS and you will have a
screaming machine.

What a bunch of shit that is.

Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa.  99206
ardell@...
509-891-5188



kiyer25 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My 80 GB 7200 rpm internal hard drive (hitachi) died (just 3 year and 1
> month). I would like to buy a internal hard drive which is reliable and
> best one with reasonable price as well.
>
> I am looking for 160 GB with 5400 or 7200 hard drive.
>
> It is IDE 2.5, ata 100, 8MB buffer. Really appreciate suggestion and
> any inputs to buy a new approbriate internal hard drive for my DELL800.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> cheers
> kris
>
>

Hi all,

My 80 GB 7200 rpm internal hard drive (hitachi) died (just 3 year and 1
month). I would like to buy a internal hard drive which is reliable and
best one with reasonable price as well.

I am looking for 160 GB with 5400 or 7200 hard drive.

It is IDE 2.5, ata 100, 8MB buffer. Really appreciate suggestion and
any inputs to buy a new approbriate internal hard drive for my DELL800.

Thanks a lot

cheers
kris

If you go to
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Inspiron%201420 you
will find that the max the unit will take is 4G.

Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa.  99206
ardell@...
509-891-5188



Drew Eckhardt wrote:

>
> I have an Inspiron 1420N which I use for software development. I'd
> like to upgrade from 4G to 8G to avoid paging. Can I using a pair of
> 200 pin 4G DDR2 SODIMMS (667MHz)?
>
>

I have an Inspiron 1420N which I use for software development.  I'd like to
upgrade from 4G to 8G to avoid paging.  Can I using a pair of 200 pin 4G DDR2
SODIMMS (667MHz)?

--- In linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Viola" <gviola@...>
wrote:
>
> I am having a problem getting Ubuntu 8.10 to run on my Inspiron
1100.
> While it installed without issue, after reboot and signon, the OS
> appears to hang with nothing besides a blank orange screen and a
> moveable mouse cursor. Am running the A32 BIOS. Any thoughts on
what's
> happening?
>
I found out what the problem is: I needed to "RTFRN"

In the release notes, there's a workaround for the Intel 845 series-
video adapter used in the 1100 (which essentially says to use safe
graphics), which, while it technically works, results in two
undesireable side effects:
  - the screen is shrunk down to a low res size
  - there are faint blue vertical lines running top to bottom that are
both annoying and will probably burn in permanently
I think I'll forego Ubuntu on this machine until it has native
support for the adapter.

I am having a problem getting Ubuntu 8.10 to run on my Inspiron 1100.
While it installed without issue, after reboot and signon, the OS
appears to hang with nothing besides a blank orange screen and a
moveable mouse cursor. Am running the A32 BIOS. Any thoughts on what's
happening?

I am having a problem getting Ubuntu 8.10 to run on my Inspiron 1100.
While it installed without issue, after reboot and signon, the OS
appears to hang with nothing besides a blank orange screen and a
moveable mouse cursor. Am running the A32 BIOS. Any thoughts on what's
happening?

Hi Chris and everyone.

I find it very intresting that you say that the Radeon M4 was constructed for a
17inch laptop witch one might I ask? Is their any independent source that can
verify this?

The reason why I ask is so that I can realy the info and continue digging up
more info that can help in improving the driver support.

Great tips Hayes I'll be sure to pass it along to fellow Inspiron users.

CU all!


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I remember I had a similar problem with an old Latitude C800 with nvidia
geforce (2 or 4?). The display was 1400x1050 (I think this is the
problem). I do not remember exactly how I fixed the bug. I think that I
installed the nvidia driver, I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and everything
worked.
I suggest:
- you install ubuntu;
- you install the ATI driver;
- you edit xorg.conf;
- you restart X11.

Alex.

sanktepernr2 a écrit :
>
>
> Hi.
>
> Dell Inspiron 8000 with ATI Mobility M4 graphics!
> Iam a tester who want to be a user of linux and I have chosen Ubuntu
> to be my distro at the moment.
>
> Since this is an very old laptop I first thought linux would just work
> on it and then I thought that maybe it is easier to find newer laptops
> that work since manufacturers nowadays put more effort into making
> linux work on Dell machines.
>
> Anyway I've tried to get Ubuntu up and running on my Dell Inspiron
> 8000 machine.
> Sadly to say both Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 have problems\bugs with the Ati
> Mobility M4 discrete graphics cards and the touchpad isn't working
> either. I've filed a bug in launchpad and we're trying to see if there
> is a coresponding bug in the X.org bugzilla\tracker but no exact match
> have been decided upon.
>
> If anyone knows of this problem and how to solv it or wants to help
> fix\triage the bug you can find it here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/247771
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/247771>
>
> There are ATI RPM packages on the Dell support site but if those are
> in ubuntu or not I don't know. The corrupted screen can be mittigated
> by connecting an external display though this only brings a correct
> picture on the internal laptop display and doesn't recognize the
> external display witch in my case is an Samsung Syncmaster 213T.
>
> Iam glad for all the hlep I can get since this is stopping me from
> migrating to linux!
>
> Thansk for YOUR help!
>
>


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Hi.

Dell Inspiron 8000 with ATI Mobility M4 graphics!
Iam a tester who want to be a user of linux and I have chosen Ubuntu
to be my distro at the moment.

Since this is an very old laptop I first thought linux would just work
on it and then I thought that maybe it is easier to find newer laptops
that work since manufacturers nowadays put more effort into making
linux work on Dell machines.

Anyway I've tried to get Ubuntu up and running on my Dell Inspiron
8000 machine.
Sadly to say both Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 have problems\bugs with the Ati
Mobility M4 discrete graphics cards and the touchpad isn't working
either. I've filed a bug in launchpad and we're trying to see if there
is a coresponding bug in the X.org bugzilla\tracker but no exact match
have been decided upon.

If anyone knows of this problem and how to solv it or wants to help
fix\triage the bug you can find it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/247771

There are ATI RPM packages on the Dell support site but if those are
in ubuntu or not I don't know. The corrupted screen can be mittigated
by connecting an external display though this only brings a correct
picture on the internal laptop display and doesn't recognize the
external display witch in my case is an Samsung Syncmaster 213T.

Iam glad for all the hlep I can get since this is stopping me from
migrating to linux!

Thansk for YOUR help!

I will be out of the office starting  08/11/2008 and will not return until
17/11/2008.

I will respond to your message when I return.