Hello,
I am running Ubuntu 6.10 on my Dell D800.  Suspend resume works
generally fine, except usually Firefox and Thunderbird crash on
resume.  Sometimes on resume the wireless network fails to start.  I
am using NetworkManager for wifi connectivity and I have to restart
the NetworkManager daemon to start wireless.  The network connectivity
and Firefox, Thunderbird issues are related perhaps?

Now this does not happen every single suspend-resume cycle, but
happens about 70 to 80% of the times.  Also other apps are generally
fine e.g. Openoffice, Rhythmbox, Vim etc dont have a problem with the
suspend resume cycle.

I just checked the BIOS version is A11.  Would upgrading that help?
Anybody seen anything like this?

Any info will be helpful,

Raghu

Andrew Sharp wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:20:09PM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
>>
>>

>> Nope, it's under the keyboard. I highly recommend Dell's service
>> manuals. Would you believe I actually did a screen resolution change
>> once - as in swapping the screen? The manuals are great.
>
> Thank you, sir. You just saved my laptop's life.
> These manuals, are they readily available for download? Do they come in
> PDF format?

Yep - I'm too lazy to actually fetch the link (sorry :-) ), but they are
available in PDF or HTML on Dell's site direct - those are pretty well
done too. If they didn't have those service manuals, and replace parts
quickly, I would most definitely not be a Dell customer any more. But
the combo of reasonable self-serve and quick parts...I'm still here...

> Cheers,

Indeed :-)

-Mike

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:20:09PM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
>
>
> Andrew Sharp wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:33AM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
> >>
> >> Howdy -
> >>
> >> Anyone else out there other than spambots? Hopefully so.
> >>
> >> I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the price
> >> of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
> >> became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
> >> DIMMS and 4GB.
> >
> > Math error? I just bought a 2GB 667MHz DDR2 DIMM for my D820 for $225US.
>
> It's entirely possible I got screwed. Or my company actually, but I was
> pretty sure I got a good price...alas.

I wouldn't sigh too heavily, you could have paid Dell's price ~:^)

> > One problem that will cause it to go back if I can't solve it: it seems
> > to have only one DIMM socket? Is socket A hiding somewhere else?
> >
> > Configuration: 512MB 533MHZ 1 dimm
>
> Nope, it's under the keyboard. I highly recommend Dell's service
> manuals. Would you believe I actually did a screen resolution change
> once - as in swapping the screen? The manuals are great.

Thank you, sir.  You just saved my laptop's life.
These manuals, are they readily available for download?  Do they come in
PDF format?

> In this case - the secret is that you pop off the chassis cover at the
> top of the keyboard (including the part that covers the screen hinges).
> It comes off from right first, to left. Then you can pop the keyboard
> out, and they're the other DIMM.

> Because putting one DIMM in an accessible spot, and the other under the
> keyboard, well, that's progress. And progress is good. (bah.)

How very Apple like.

Cheers,

a

Pretty much flawless out of the box. NetworkManager is pretty good too...

The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is that you need a separate daemon
(ipw3954d) running for it to be running

-Mike

oraclewizard1 wrote:
>
>
> How's the 3945 wireless working for you?
>

How's the 3945 wireless working for you?


--- In linux-latitude-d800@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Sharp <andy@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:33AM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
> >
> > Howdy -
> >
> > Anyone else out there other than spambots? Hopefully so.
> >
> > I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the
price
> > of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
> > became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
> > DIMMS and 4GB.
>
> Math error?  I just bought a 2GB 667MHz DDR2 DIMM for my D820 for
$225US.
>
> > Unfortunately, due to 32bit x86 architecture design, the BIOS must map
> > some hardware communication channels into the same memory
addresses that
> > the last 1GB of RAM is in, and PCI-express in particular is pretty
> > greedy, so the BIOS is only able to expose ~3.3GB of RAM to the
> > operating system.
> >
> > Note that with BIOS < A03 you will only see 3GB of RAM, not 3.3GB as
> > they made a change there to map less memory and expose more to the
OS. I
> > used the excellent "biosdisk" utility in "install" mode to create a
> > bootable image from the BIOS installer .exe on Dell's website.
> > 'biosdisk' is created and provided by Dell in RPM format - super
easy to
> > install, super easy to use, and it worked great.
>
> I'll have to try this.  Mine has A05 I believe.
>
> > At first blush, I thought it would be better to just go with a 1GB/2GB
> > configuration and use 3GB of RAM, but by having a matched set of DDR2
> > sticks you get twice the memory bandwidth - having a non-matched
set you
> > don't get that. So I'm leaving the 4GB in there.
> >
> > Note that once you install the memory you get a BIOS error-like screen
> > saying "the amount of memory changed" that lasts for 30 seconds
that you
> > can't get out of. A little scary, but if you're patient, it gives
you an
> > option screen and then you can boot.
>
> I just experienced that last night.  Kind of annoying.
>
> > Fedora Core 5 does see the 3.3GB and used it by default. I can now
have
> > Eclipse, 2 huge VMWare VMs, and thunderbird and firefox all greedily
> > using RAM with no swapping at all. Very nice.
>
> I just took delivery of my D820 a few days ago, to upgrade my aging D800
> (1.7GHz, 2GB ram, 100GB HD, 64MB GeForceGo4 or whatever).  What with the
> 7200RPM SATA disk and 64bit linear addressing, it's sooo much faster.
> Oh yeah, and the extra little processor core.  And the price: $1800.00.
> More than $1200 cheaper than what I forked over for the D800.
>
> One problem that will cause it to go back if I can't solve it:  it seems
> to have only one DIMM socket?  Is socket A hiding somewhere else?
>
> Configuration: 512MB 533MHZ 1 dimm
>                core 2 2.133GHz
> 	       1920x1200 screen
> 	       128MB Geforce 110 whatever.  They lie and say it has
> 	       256MB memory.  Really cheesy of Dell to do that.
> 	       80BG 7200rpm
> 	       bluetooth
> 	       intel 3945 wireless card
> 	       NO WINDOWS!
>
> It's nice not to have any of my money going to Microsoft.  I realize it
> means Dell is pocketing more, but that's a deal I can live with.
>
> Debian's multiarch DVD with the new graphical installer installed like a
> breeze, all devices supported immediately except the wireless, I had to
> install the ipw3945 packages, then it worked brilliantly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> a
>

Yahoo has officially lost the war on spam, in my opinion.

I've made it so that I have to approve new entries to the list.

I won't make the list itself moderated, which means that existing
spambots on the list will be able to post until I kick/ban them (I've
already removed a big batch of them), but I'll tighten it down a bit.

That said, is anyone else having trouble suspend/resume with near-latest
nvidia+kernel? On FC5 with nearly the latest nvidia (the upstream
packager changed packaging style and I haven't made the leap yet) and
nearly the latest kernel (2.6.19, not 2.6.20 yet) suspend/resume broke.
It was working with 2.6.18 IIRC.

Just curious...

-Mike

Excellent!

I'm mainly happy that there are still some sentient / non-spambot beings
on this list, and I was able to help some folks.

I am now able to run 3 dvd::rips, 3 large (512MB or 1024MB RAM,
depending) VMWare VMs plus eclipse, thunderbird and firefox, and despite
the 2.6 kernels cache-loving swappiness, I no longer swap.

I wouldn't have thought it, but for my workload anyway, the jump from
2GB to 4GB RAM is a massive improvement.

Good luck with it, ya'll ;-)

-Mike

John DeCarlo wrote:
> On 4/18/07, Andrew Sharp <andy@...> wrote:
>>   On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:33AM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
>>
>>> I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the price
>>> of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
>>> became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
>>> DIMMS and 4GB.
>> Math error? I just bought a 2GB 667MHz DDR2 DIMM for my D820 for $225US.
>>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I just did a quick check, and crucial.com has the 667MHz 4GB kit for:
>
> 4GB kit (2GBx2)
>
>
CT518522<http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=604DA794A5CA7304>
>    DDR2
> PC2-5300 • CL=5 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 256Meg x 64
>
> $569.99
> Newegg has the G.Skill or Patriot 2GB chips for $219 each.  Corsair brand
> for $299 each.
>
> Man, now I can't justify not upgrading, I guess. <g>
>

On 4/18/07, Andrew Sharp <andy@...> wrote:
>
>   On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:33AM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
>
> > I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the price
> > of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
> > became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
> > DIMMS and 4GB.
>
> Math error? I just bought a 2GB 667MHz DDR2 DIMM for my D820 for $225US.
>


Hello,

I just did a quick check, and crucial.com has the 667MHz 4GB kit for:

4GB kit (2GBx2)

CT518522<http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=604DA794A5CA7304>
    DDR2
PC2-5300 • CL=5 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 256Meg x 64

$569.99
Newegg has the G.Skill or Patriot 2GB chips for $219 each.  Corsair brand
for $299 each.

Man, now I can't justify not upgrading, I guess. <g>

--
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Mensaje original ----
De: Mike Hardy <mhardy@...>
Para: linux-latitude-d800@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: miércoles, 18 de abril, 2007 19:26:44
Asunto: [linux-latitude-d800] Re: Anything other than spam on this list?













             --- In linux-latitude- d800@yahoogroups .com, Rick Reynolds
<rick@...>

wrote:

>

> It seems that this list is dying out (more folks moving to other

> hardware platforms as the D800 ages?).  But some spammer now considers

> it to be a good lead on his crap.

>

> Is there any action being taken to control the spam on this list?  If

> not, I think I'll drop off as the spam to content ratio is getting

> prohibitive.

>

> Thanks,

> Rick Reynolds

> --

>   "Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henry

Bergson

>


The signal to noise is pretty bad - I just deleted a bunch of it and

kick/banned some of the authors. I'll try to keep it under control

going forward.










Spambots?

Thanks God, I was very worry about how the people in this list  was able to know
that I've a short pennis













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Andrew Sharp wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:33AM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Howdy -
>>
>> Anyone else out there other than spambots? Hopefully so.
>>
>> I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the price
>> of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
>> became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
>> DIMMS and 4GB.
>
> Math error? I just bought a 2GB 667MHz DDR2 DIMM for my D820 for $225US.

It's entirely possible I got screwed. Or my company actually, but I was
pretty sure I got a good price...alas.

>> Unfortunately, due to 32bit x86 architecture design, the BIOS must map
>> some hardware communication channels into the same memory addresses that
>> the last 1GB of RAM is in, and PCI-express in particular is pretty
>> greedy, so the BIOS is only able to expose ~3.3GB of RAM to the
>> operating system.
>>
>> Note that with BIOS < A03 you will only see 3GB of RAM, not 3.3GB as
>> they made a change there to map less memory and expose more to the OS. I
>> used the excellent "biosdisk" utility in "install" mode to create a
>> bootable image from the BIOS installer .exe on Dell's website.
>> 'biosdisk' is created and provided by Dell in RPM format - super easy to
>> install, super easy to use, and it worked great.
>
> I'll have to try this. Mine has A05 I believe.

Definitely - biosdisk is exactly what you want - works as advertised. I
have to give Dell credit. It's good stuff.


> One problem that will cause it to go back if I can't solve it: it seems
> to have only one DIMM socket? Is socket A hiding somewhere else?
>
> Configuration: 512MB 533MHZ 1 dimm

Nope, it's under the keyboard. I highly recommend Dell's service
manuals. Would you believe I actually did a screen resolution change
once - as in swapping the screen? The manuals are great.

In this case - the secret is that you pop off the chassis cover at the
top of the keyboard (including the part that covers the screen hinges).
It comes off from right first, to left. Then you can pop the keyboard
out, and they're the other DIMM.

Because putting one DIMM in an accessible spot, and the other under the
keyboard, well, that's progress. And progress is good. (bah.)

Cheers-
-Mike

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:33AM -0700, Mike Hardy wrote:
>
> Howdy -
>
> Anyone else out there other than spambots? Hopefully so.
>
> I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the price
> of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
> became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
> DIMMS and 4GB.

Math error?  I just bought a 2GB 667MHz DDR2 DIMM for my D820 for $225US.

> Unfortunately, due to 32bit x86 architecture design, the BIOS must map
> some hardware communication channels into the same memory addresses that
> the last 1GB of RAM is in, and PCI-express in particular is pretty
> greedy, so the BIOS is only able to expose ~3.3GB of RAM to the
> operating system.
>
> Note that with BIOS < A03 you will only see 3GB of RAM, not 3.3GB as
> they made a change there to map less memory and expose more to the OS. I
> used the excellent "biosdisk" utility in "install" mode to create a
> bootable image from the BIOS installer .exe on Dell's website.
> 'biosdisk' is created and provided by Dell in RPM format - super easy to
> install, super easy to use, and it worked great.

I'll have to try this.  Mine has A05 I believe.

> At first blush, I thought it would be better to just go with a 1GB/2GB
> configuration and use 3GB of RAM, but by having a matched set of DDR2
> sticks you get twice the memory bandwidth - having a non-matched set you
> don't get that. So I'm leaving the 4GB in there.
>
> Note that once you install the memory you get a BIOS error-like screen
> saying "the amount of memory changed" that lasts for 30 seconds that you
> can't get out of. A little scary, but if you're patient, it gives you an
> option screen and then you can boot.

I just experienced that last night.  Kind of annoying.

> Fedora Core 5 does see the 3.3GB and used it by default. I can now have
> Eclipse, 2 huge VMWare VMs, and thunderbird and firefox all greedily
> using RAM with no swapping at all. Very nice.

I just took delivery of my D820 a few days ago, to upgrade my aging D800
(1.7GHz, 2GB ram, 100GB HD, 64MB GeForceGo4 or whatever).  What with the
7200RPM SATA disk and 64bit linear addressing, it's sooo much faster.
Oh yeah, and the extra little processor core.  And the price: $1800.00.
More than $1200 cheaper than what I forked over for the D800.

One problem that will cause it to go back if I can't solve it:  it seems
to have only one DIMM socket?  Is socket A hiding somewhere else?

Configuration: 512MB 533MHZ 1 dimm
                core 2 2.133GHz
	        1920x1200 screen
	        128MB Geforce 110 whatever.  They lie and say it has
	        256MB memory.  Really cheesy of Dell to do that.
	        80BG 7200rpm
	        bluetooth
	        intel 3945 wireless card
	        NO WINDOWS!

It's nice not to have any of my money going to Microsoft.  I realize it
means Dell is pocketing more, but that's a deal I can live with.

Debian's multiarch DVD with the new graphical installer installed like a
breeze, all devices supported immediately except the wireless, I had to
install the ipw3945 packages, then it worked brilliantly.

Cheers,

a

Howdy -

Anyone else out there other than spambots? Hopefully so.

I still use a D820 rig as my primary machine, and did you know the price
of 2GB DDR2 SODIMMs just came down? Some time in the last month they
became reasonable. Around $750 for a pair, giving you a matched set of
DIMMS and 4GB.

Unfortunately, due to 32bit x86 architecture design, the BIOS must map
some hardware communication channels into the same memory addresses that
the last 1GB of RAM is in, and PCI-express in particular is pretty
greedy, so the BIOS is only able to expose ~3.3GB of RAM to the
operating system.

Note that with BIOS < A03 you will only see 3GB of RAM, not 3.3GB as
they made a change there to map less memory and expose more to the OS. I
used the excellent "biosdisk" utility in "install" mode to create a
bootable image from the BIOS installer .exe on Dell's website.
'biosdisk' is created and provided by Dell in RPM format - super easy to
install, super easy to use, and it worked great.

At first blush, I thought it would be better to just go with a 1GB/2GB
configuration and use 3GB of RAM, but by having a matched set of DDR2
sticks you get twice the memory bandwidth - having a non-matched set you
don't get that. So I'm leaving the 4GB in there.

Note that once you install the memory you get a BIOS error-like screen
saying "the amount of memory changed" that lasts for 30 seconds that you
can't get out of. A little scary, but if you're patient, it gives you an
option screen and then you can boot.

Fedora Core 5 does see the 3.3GB and used it by default. I can now have
Eclipse, 2 huge VMWare VMs, and thunderbird and firefox all greedily
using RAM with no swapping at all. Very nice.

-Mike

--- In linux-latitude-d800@yahoogroups.com, Rick Reynolds <rick@...>
wrote:
>
> It seems that this list is dying out (more folks moving to other
> hardware platforms as the D800 ages?).  But some spammer now considers
> it to be a good lead on his crap.
>
> Is there any action being taken to control the spam on this list?  If
> not, I think I'll drop off as the spam to content ratio is getting
> prohibitive.
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Reynolds
> --
>   "Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henry
Bergson
>

The signal to noise is pretty bad - I just deleted a bunch of it and
kick/banned some of the authors. I'll try to keep it under control
going forward.

It seems that this list is dying out (more folks moving to other
hardware platforms as the D800 ages?).  But some spammer now considers
it to be a good lead on his crap.

Is there any action being taken to control the spam on this list?  If
not, I think I'll drop off as the spam to content ratio is getting
prohibitive.

Thanks,
Rick Reynolds
--
   "Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henry Bergson

after http://www.dellideastorm.com/

http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/nseries_nb?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=\
bsd

only for U.S. customer ?

--
bye, fAu

ericandry wrote:
> Are you using a docking station and LCD monitor?
>
> When I use an LCD that has native 1280x1024 and docking
> station, the graphical startup with Fedora Core is blank due to
> an out of range resolution. After it finishes booting into X,
> the nvidia logo is displayed and then the X login.
>
> If using just the laptop screen, the graphical startup is
> displayed.
>
> I don't have an answer other than see about changing the
> resolution of the grub splash screen. It doesn't bother me
> though so I haven't tried to change it.

This was NOT my problem.  I was using the laptop on its own (i.e. in my
lap).

Interestingly (strangely?) the problem has seemingly gone away on its
own.  The next day when I fired up my laptop again, it showed text at
power up (normal BIOS screen) and I saw all my text going by during
boot-up as well.

So I'm not sure what went wrong or why, but things are back to normal
for me now.

I was worried that I would have to replace something, but it looks as
though I won't have to (in the near-term anyway).

Thanks,
Rick Reynolds
--
   "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
-- Galileo Galilei

Are you using a docking station and LCD monitor?

When I use an LCD that has native 1280x1024 and docking
station, the graphical startup with Fedora Core is blank due to
an out of range resolution.  After it finishes booting into X,
the nvidia logo is displayed and then the X login.

If using just the laptop screen, the graphical startup is
displayed.

I don't have an answer other than see about changing the
resolution of the grub splash screen.  It doesn't bother me
though so I haven't tried to change it.

Plenty of spam on this list lately...  Anyone got time to counsel me
about a weird display problem?

I turned on the laptop this morning and was greeted by a blank screen.
No BIOS screen, no booting progress.  But I noticed that the hard drive
light was flickering, so I let it sit for a bit.  After a few minutes,
lo and behold the nvidia logo showed and my X started up.

So the machine had been booting just fine, but the display wasn't
showing it.  Any ideas on what needs to be swapped out to fix this?

Thanks,
Rick Reynolds
--
   "I believe in God as I believe the sun has risen, not because I can
see it, but because by way of it I can see everything else." -- C.S. Lewis

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