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Re: Linux Society and the WSIS

Hey John!

Great to hear from you.  I just realized you were copied on some internal chatter *about you*...now there's open communication at its finest.  At least you know our intent.  What you've said here will be of great interest to Evan Leibovitch, our President, who is traveling in Asia for the next two weeks and has limited email access.  I am going to be sure he gets a chance to wrap his brain around what you're talking about.

Also, I would love to find out if you are interested in taking our certification at TechX in NYC in September.  What I said about getting you certified...well...devious as I may be in asking...it would be great to have you part of our alumni community because we are trying to expand past the "typical" and into new territory...your advice and insights based on this email alone tell me I was right on in thinking you'd make a great evangelist for our work...and likely...ours for yours!!  8)

-sg


John van V. wrote:
Hello,
I read through some of the national documents and noticed that the western
nations are all zeroing on the on the open source issue. In particular, the US
document pretends that the emphasis on open source is a threat to the "freedom
of choice"
The US document also, for some reason, attempts to differentiate between open
standards and open source, which seems silly at first but immediately got my
attention because XML is usually both an open source language and an open
standard of communication, where as PDF and Microsoft Word are not. This is
suspicious to me, or maybe they are just ignorant.
Information built into complex structures is very likely the only way that
impoverished nations can communicate where only relevant subsets of the greater
body of information is transported to fit limited bandwidth. I am not sure
that XML can easily do this, and it lacks other necessary features such as
binary transport, but I have been using these techniques for years with Perl
complex structures.
Also I am seeing a wholesale avoidance of the technical issues which is a
mistake since, for instance, the Mosaic browser which became Netscape and the
NSCA server (now apache) have virtually dictated how we all handle information.
On the other hand, the papers that I have seen so far seek to dilute the social
components possibly to increase impoverished debt on behalf of Microsoft and
others. The greatest problem w/ closed technology is not the outset price but
the long term cost of not being able to build upon technology. All human
effort is derived from previous effort, suddenly, because we are digital, we
can no long behave as we have through the all time.
Despite my love to technology I have decided to develop a model for global
communications based entirely on openness, and I believe the the circle of
friends of a psychologist I am studying, Carl Rogers, actually invented the
concept of openness.
This I think will be the greatest contribution to Information Society and will
create an umbrella under which projects like OpenICT can function in a
supportive atmosphere protected from the likes of the jerks that claim to
represent my nation. I have also noted frustration from the forward thinking
NGOs, and a determined lack by richer nations to up the cash which would make
the WSIS a viable forum. So, do we really need them ??
Here are links to Linux Society WSIS documents, and the Thinman project where
Linux and its successors become the OS base of ICT operations.
http://www.thinman.com
http://thinman.dyndns.org/docs/wsis_Linux_society.html
John, President, Linux Society
Stacy:
...oops sorry if I confused you. Just because he has submitted a paper
doesn't automatically give him the right to make a presentation (or that he
is attending).

***No we are not accredited and attending will depend on funds and available
time.
(...when you are dealing with the whole world the number of hoops you have
to jump through to get heard would make your head swim :-)
Nevertheless, no harm done. If he responds you might ask if he is
accredited and is attending, because I noticed that his paper is under the
category of "misc." which includes a very informal "letter" from Canadian
Journalists for Free Expression. It may be that the summit is accepting
"unaccredited" input. If so, we need to find out!
Scott
--------- Original Message --------
From: Stacy Gildenston <stacy@...>
To: john@... <john@...>
Cc: Scottl <scottl@...>, Evan Leibovitch <evan@...>
Subject: Hello From LPI
Date: 08/08/03 20:13
Hey John,
We noticed you are giving a presentation at WSIS, and thought we'd drop
you a note to say hello. Right now we are very likely going to be in
Geneva as well...and before hand, we'll be at TechX/PCExpo in NYC in
September...we'd love to get the chance to meet you and talk more about
what you are up to...learn more about how you are working with teenagers
and Linux.
Thanks!
-sg
--
Stacy Gildenston
Director of Business Development
Linux Professional Institute
stacy@...
603.430-9398 office
603.498-2329 cell
603.433-7590 fax


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Hello, I read through some of the national documents and noticed that the western nations are all zeroing on the on the open source issue. In particular, the...
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Hey John! Great to hear from you. I just realized you were copied on some internal chatter *about you*...now there's open communication at its finest. At...
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Hi Stacy, Nice to hear from you. Linux Society is definately expanding past the typical in the SOY/Sprout OS. Plus, as you may gather, I got my knickers in a...
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