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HOWTO set up a home file server using FreeNAS   Message List  
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Re: [linux] HOWTO set up a home file server using FreeNAS

On Feb 9, 2012 9:07 PM, "J" <dreadpiratejeff@...> wrote:
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>
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> Nah... it's just putting everything together in a nice, easy to
> configure package. You could do the same thing with any *nix machine,
> you just may have to do a little more leg work.

That's sort of what I thought, but there is really not much leg work once
you know what you are doing. Course I still recall the first time I set my
server up with no idea what I was doing... That was a process spread out
over two weeks. A significant portion of that consisted of trying to get
cups working with networked printing. So I can see how a "ready to go" can
be attractive.

> I've not messed TOO much with FreeNAS but I noticed in the screen
> shots it seems to include an interface for creating aggregated.
> links... that sounds interesting... didn't notice that before.

Heh, I don't even know what that means.

>
> As for zfs (not xfs), it's fairly new but I "think" it's generally
> supported out of the box by most distros. I've only used it on
> single-disk short-lifetime test machines, though, so I can't speak to
> any real benefits to using zfs over ext*, vfat, ntfs, jfs, etc... the
> only one I can say to avoid is ReiserFS because... well, it's not
> being supported or developed anymore. :/
>
Wikipedia indicates its journaling, and some other stuff. But I don't know
enough about filesystems to know if what it was saying was unique or what
have you. Anything that oracle is involved in though...

> > In the
> > how-to above they appear to be reccomending striping across three used
> > hard-drives with no redundancy. What is that, like increasing your
sucess
> > of loosing everything by 66%?
> Negative...
>
> They explain all three options, mirroring, striping and "RAID-Z1"
> which I'd never heard of until tonight. But from what the Goog tells
> me, that's just what the hip kids are calling RAID-5 these days.
>
> IN any case, they explicitly stated that in the box they were
> building, with three drives of completely different sizes, mirroring
> would only give them 74GB of storage, striping would give them almost
> 500 GB but the best would be to have three drives of identical size at
> a minimum and do a RAID-5.
>
> They also stated a second time that the BEST solution would be three
> disks of identical size in either a RAID-5 or 2 drives striped and one
> as a hot-spare... both of those options make valid sense to me, though

I agree that both of those options make sense. I also hold that 74 GB
mirrored is better than 500 GB striped across three disks. It was around 5
K USD to rebuild a 120GB RAID-0 several years ago when the company I worked
at had one go down.

> So a simple Ubuntu Server system will probably end up being
> what I use, with NFS, CIFS and CUPS running on my LAN.

Yep, that is what I use currently. Still 8.04 kicking strong.


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... Nah... it's just putting everything together in a nice, easy to configure package. You could do the same thing with any *nix machine, you just may have to...
J
emtboy9 Offline Send Email
Feb 10, 2012
3:07 am

... That's sort of what I thought, but there is really not much leg work once you know what you are doing. Course I still recall the first time I set my ...
c beck
usabecker Offline Send Email
Feb 10, 2012
3:48 am

... Heh... yeah, me too... only my experience involved several re-installs because I kept changing my mind on the partitioning, screwing up the config files to...
J
emtboy9 Offline Send Email
Feb 10, 2012
3:56 pm

... Bingo! CUPS got hosed when Steve Jobs and the clowns at Apple took it over in 2007 and screwed it royally. It still works PERFECTLY on my older systems...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 11, 2012
7:47 am

... I don't usually make spelling errors and I must've been watching my radio's display (HD-Radio) while typing the above to catch a song title. "greatful"...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 11, 2012
8:08 am

... Cool! My main Ubuntu system is still running 8.04.4, too; SheevaPlugs are running 9.04 (for DHCP, tftp, DNS, and other LAN tasks). Is yours the server or...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 11, 2012
7:27 am

... I looked these sheevaPlug things up. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug> A small computer that you plug into the wall. That is pretty neat. A quick...
c beck
usabecker Offline Send Email
Feb 13, 2012
7:25 pm

... Odd. I just Googled "arm plug computers for sale" and found lots. I have twi types, SheevaPlug and GuruPlug. The GuruPlug has WiFi and can serve as...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 14, 2012
12:28 am

... I love the Sheeva / Guru plugs and also have a Seagate Dockstar which is a scaled down Sheeva (in terms of memory). I help out with the ArmedSlack project...
John O'Donnell
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Feb 14, 2012
5:57 am

... Hmmm, Seagate. I'll have to look into that since they're nearby. ... Super! Thanks for sharing! You have some really neat stuff there which I'm going to...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 14, 2012
6:50 am

... Huh, I didn't catch that "sheeva" was the brand, and not what it was called. Live and learn. As an aside, apparently google has me flagged as someone...
c beck
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Feb 24, 2012
10:03 pm

... I have 2 or 3 sheevas. Very dependable. But other plugs have more to offer. ... The GuruPlug that I have has 2 Gig ethernets, sata, and 2 usb, wifi (I...
John O'Donnell
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Feb 25, 2012
8:16 am

... That sound you're now hearing is a headslap. Color me redfaced for forgetting there are GuruPlug variants with two GiGE ports that would be ideal for a...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 26, 2012
3:14 am

... Oops, above URL should be: <http://thadlabs.com/PIX/ThadLABS_network_demarc.jpg>...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 26, 2012
3:42 am

... Hmmm, something new [to me]; will have to look at it tomorrow. ... Actually, ZFS can be considered mature. Developed at Sun for Solaris and many distros...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 11, 2012
7:23 am

... Ahhh, I stand corrected. I didn't realize it had been around that long... [..] ... Meh... for one without a network card. It was a christmas gift from my...
J
emtboy9 Offline Send Email
Feb 13, 2012
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... HP, and I'm sure others, made Ethernet print servers that were about the size of a Marlboro 100 cigarette pack (which I used to smoke though I haven't...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 13, 2012
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... Oh sure, I've looked at them over the years, but to be honest, it wasn't until recently that this really became an issue. My wife did all the printing, so...
J
emtboy9 Offline Send Email
Feb 13, 2012
8:52 pm

... Just curious: what GiGE switch(es) are you planning on using? I have a D-Link DGS-2208 8-port GiGE switch I bought in February 2009 that has worked...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 14, 2012
12:47 am

... I have an ZyXel DSL modem that my ISP installed and it has worked flawlessly for about 3 or 4 years. I have 2 4 port 10/100 switches that have worked for...
Dale Miller
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Feb 14, 2012
3:33 am

... Hi Dale! I appreciate your input regarding ZyXEL; I've never heard of them before the NewEgg email this morning. Their specs look good and the User Guide...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 14, 2012
4:11 am

... It arrived today (Thursday) shortly after noontime. Here are 2 small pix of it: <http://thadlabs.com/PIX/ZyXEL_GS1100-16_front.jpg> ...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 17, 2012
12:10 am

... Hi Dale, My fingers are cold (house temp is 59°F (15°C)), I made several typos, and I forgot to answer your Q above (which I do below). Though the ZyXEL...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 14, 2012
5:26 am

... For the wifi portion I was looking at these three: http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/belkin-n750-db-wireless/4507-3319_7-34845946.html ...
J
emtboy9 Offline Send Email
Feb 14, 2012
9:41 pm

... Interesting. They do the same thing as everyone else assuming it'll be in a rack: LEDs and RJ-45 on the same panel. My Linksys/Cisco 16-port 10/100 Model...
thad_floryan Offline Send Email Feb 15, 2012
12:32 am

... I'll have to look into D-Links. I like the NetGear switches, but as you've also pointed out, the lights and ports on the same side is great if you're in a...
J
emtboy9 Offline Send Email
Feb 15, 2012
3:42 am

... Yeah, I think a lot of us are doing that these days--I think it was Godwin who first gave me the idea. My wife prints a lot of <cough>completely...
Scott
catbit_1999 Offline Send Email
Feb 13, 2012
1:22 pm

... Yep. Guilty as charged. That's going back a while now. I think I was still in France when that conversation was going on, so it's at least 4½ years ago...
Godwin Stewart
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Feb 13, 2012
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... Which would explain why the Newegg version is now newer. :) Don't know if I mentioned it, while the CentOS that I use as main server-cum-workstation...
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