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Harvey, I would bet the card is, or at least once was, formatted FAT16. Some things I would try if it was me: 1. Try different readers, including older ones,...
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Hi all, ... The newer distros have HAL support compiled into KDE and Gnome desktops. This is an issue because any USB and Firewire device that gets plugged in...
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Or you could simply use the 2.4 kernel ... ;) farmerdude...
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... Excellent delving into the HAL/Linux layer. It strikes me that your testing methodology may be off. I wouldn't expect simply mounting a drive to alter the...
Jeff Bryner
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... I do know that there is a registry entry done when a USB device is connected to a XP box, so you can establish that the USB device was connected to that...
Jacques B.
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... I would. -- /*************************************** Special Agent Barry J. Grundy Resident Agent in Charge NASA Office of Inspector General Computer...
Barry J. Grundy
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... While mounting does not imply changing of any files, per se, it quite likely will change meta-data (such as mount count, last access time of the root...
Dave Dittrich
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Aug 8, 2006
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Really? I've never seen it happen. Lets do an experiment with my usb thumb drive on gentoo 2.6.15 # cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 8 0...
Jeff Bryner
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... I forgot to give credit to the policy to David Zeuthen from the HAL mailing list. I figured it I needed a HAL policy to do what I needed. After a couple of...
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... I have to side with Barry. Of course mouting read only shouldn't change it. But mounting it read/write is not proper forensic proceedure. You open a...
Jacques B.
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Aug 8, 2006
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... http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-03/bh-us-03-willis-c/bh-us-03-willis.pdf check out page 53, its a decent summary of the issue, might only ...
Harry Duncan
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Aug 8, 2006
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... Hmm..Barry said mounting *would* change it? And my experiment yielded the same results mounting read/write. ... No argument there..that's where this thread...
Jeff Bryner
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Aug 8, 2006
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... One variable here is file system type. FAT is a pretty simple file system type, which does not have mount count, does not keep track of last access time,...
Dave Dittrich
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... Good point! Sounds like fodder for a paper covering the effects of mounts on differing filesystems. ... No argument and in investigations I don't mount...
Jeff Bryner
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:53:45 -0700 (PDT) ... No. I said I would *expect* it to. ... Rerun your experiment on your USB drive formatted EXT3....
Barry Grundy
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Aug 9, 2006
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... Agree completely. Which is why I don't think relying on hash changes to show non-mounts is a reliable test of disabling auto-mount. If the tests were...
Jeff Bryner
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... I'm sure Barry can defend himself much better than I can on this, but ... I would. ... In other words, he "would expect" that simply mounting a drive would...
Jacques B.
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... Actually the original question was simply how to stop automount. The issue of integrity of a mounted device was raised by Ron in the third posting in this...
Jacques B.
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... Sorry, Not trying to pick any fights ;-) Corrected. ... Good point! I'll skip the cfdisk part. # mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Filesystem...
Jeff Bryner
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I see where previous postings were taken slightly out of context by some of us (myself included). I now see the context in which Jeff made that comment. He...
Jacques B.
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... Good point, it's definitely worthwhile keeping up on 'helpful' changes in the various packages. You'd hate to see an upgrade wipe out your practices. ... ...
Jeff Bryner
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... Terse answer: Turn off your automounter daemon. The name and means of doing this depends on the operating system and/or distribution you are using. RTFM...
Dave Dittrich
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Aug 9, 2006
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... Guilty as well! I assumed the poster was testing using usb thumb drives which are usually formatted as fat/vfat filesystems. ... Yeah I gotta say that's...
Jeff Bryner
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:35:30 -0400 ... One suggested solution was "use the 2.4 kernel". That *is* a thoroughly tested solution. I love the 2.6 kernel. It...
Barry Grundy
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... Fair enough Dave. RTFM, Google, books, courses are all things we should be doing. But aren't these mailing lists also to learn and ask questions, even if ...
Jacques B.
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... Degenerate?? Check out the meaning of forensic, and rethink that. Perhaps the experimental / understanding stuff belongs on a LUG and not a forensic...
Harry Duncan
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... Google says: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=define%3A+forensic&btnG=Search relating to the use of science or technology in the investigation and ...
Jeff Bryner
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:29:49 -0700 (PDT) ... bah! no fights picked here. Just trying to clarify what I meant. e-mail conversations can suck. Sometimes I hate ...
Barry Grundy
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... Is it your hypothesis that bad practices are court admisable? Probably best to leave that as a rhetorical question. ... A proposed "best practice"...
Harry Duncan
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... Ha! No problem. All I'm saying is that I hate it when I post a sample command and since it's a forensics list people immediately post something about how ...
Jeff Bryner
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