Hello, Does anyone have a list of requirements on how to write XML files so that they can easily be parsed for localization? Thanks, Nathalie...
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Mar 2, 2001 9:10 pm
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Hello Nathalie, The answer to your question is one of the goal of this group. Unfortunately things have not being very active so far and there is nothing ...
Yves Savourel
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Mar 2, 2001 9:55 pm
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Nathalie, Here is a small list that may also help. You'll find most of the same thing in Richard's paper, but some items may be more geared toward what the ...
Yves Savourel
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Mar 2, 2001 10:59 pm
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Hi Yves, Thanks for the feedback. I had already come across Richard's document and found it quite interesting. I think it will do for now. Really appreciate ...
Nathalie Merino
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Mar 2, 2001 11:08 pm
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Thanks again. That's plenty of information! ... From: Yves Savourel [mailto:yves@...] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 3:00 PM To: lisa-its@yahoogroups.com...
Nathalie Merino
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Mar 2, 2001 11:28 pm
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At Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:00:25 -0700, ... I understand that you introduce this technique as a work around by examining various CAT tools. But as far as I know,...
Shigemichi Yazawa
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Mar 4, 2001 6:55 am
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Very true. CDATA is not the good way to do it. Just a workaround because tools currently seem to be treating it as <pre>, while other XML content is usually...
Yves
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Mar 4, 2001 4:11 pm
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Just some additional notes on the 'space' topic: - Not all languages use spaces. Please make sure your solution works with such languages, too. Examples are...
Martin Duerst
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Mar 5, 2001 2:51 am
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... is ... I do too. But unfortunately some translation tools do not follow specs very well for now (actually if space handling was the only problem it would...
Yves
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Mar 5, 2001 6:15 am
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At Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:07:59 -0700, ... Good point. Though, it is not XML specific issue. Whether the two segments This is a test string. and This is a test...
Shigemichi Yazawa
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Mar 5, 2001 6:17 am
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At Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:12:11 +0900, ... Interestingly, Internet Explorer 5.0 solves this problem. A multi-lined Japanese paragraph doesn't get spaces where the...
Shigemichi Yazawa
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Mar 5, 2001 6:44 am
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... I guess you are saying: we should always preserve because we don't know. and I say: we should try to know, and preserve when we can't. For example, I would...
Yves
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Mar 5, 2001 7:37 am
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... My guess is that they use character classes (e.g. collapse between two kanji or hiragana or katakana, don't collapse between two Latin characters,...). ...
Martin Duerst
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Mar 5, 2001 7:54 am
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... There is no such thing as 'normalize' in xml:space. Presentation depends on styles, not (or not only) on space properties. ... Regards, Martin....
Martin Duerst
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Mar 6, 2001 7:42 am
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At Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:33:35 -0700, ... I'm not sure if I would normalize white space in XHTML content. I tend to prefer to preserving everything in the...
Shigemichi Yazawa
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Mar 7, 2001 7:11 am
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... not ... I agree, but in many cases tools are used in batch mode, where the fuzzy/exact makes a lot more difference. I'm not sure an 'almost-extact' match...
Yves Savourel
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Mar 7, 2001 1:42 pm
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Hi Yves A few more thoughts on IDs and how we will implement and use them would be useful. Also, I will write up some ideas on how this kind of dialogue can be...
Steven Forth
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Mar 7, 2001 5:13 pm
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... I'll try. It's just the old method used in most UI source where IDs are usually available. It's similar to updating an RC file for example: An XML document...
Yves Savourel
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Mar 7, 2001 6:29 pm
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Another concern with IDs is that the first character of an ID cannot be numeric. So IDs also prevent having the following XML: <p id="1001"...
Craig R. Cummings
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Mar 7, 2001 7:05 pm
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Hi, Sorry for lurking for such a long time. I was at the meeting in Amsterdam and followed the list since then. It was not a matter of secrecy just a lack of...
Marc van Grootel (Men...
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Mar 7, 2001 7:51 pm
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Hi, ... Although this cannot be avoided completely i think it is necessary to consider the related standards for solutions first (though some of them are still...
Marc van Grootel (Men...
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Mar 7, 2001 8:16 pm
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Thanks Yves I had imagined an ID insertion and management framework as a second core project for CGS after the ITS, but perhaps this is something that needs to...
Steven Forth
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Mar 7, 2001 9:20 pm
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Hi Steven, ... Excuse my ignorance but what is CGS? --Marc...
Marc van Grootel (Men...
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Mar 8, 2001 8:00 am
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Dear colleagues, I always hate to toss in some other subject when the flow of conversation seems to be going in other directions, but I just got back from a...
sewright
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Mar 8, 2001 3:30 pm
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We have been working to reorganize and give more structure to the ITS project. It has been proposed to bring this under OSCAR as a new group. OSCAR/Content...
Steven Forth
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Mar 8, 2001 8:56 pm
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... Just to make things very clear for everybody: Most of the features you mention are very clearly 'syntactic sugar'. The XML Infoset spec will clarify these...
Martin Duerst
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Mar 9, 2001 6:56 am
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In the XLT environment, we addressed this issue by automatically generating an alpha character for IDs: 1001 becomes "A1001" or "id1001". I realize that if...
sewright
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Mar 9, 2001 2:26 pm
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Hi Sue, I know there are issues in Unicode such as surrogate and language tag that lead many people to think that Unicode is premature. At the same time,...
Shigemichi Yazawa
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Mar 13, 2001 6:27 am
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Hello Sue, Shigemichi, I fully agree with Shigemichi's points. Unicode support is not perfect (difficult to do also because of the various additions), but...
Martin Duerst
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Mar 13, 2001 8:11 am
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Thanks, Shigemichi and Martin for your very useful answers. You've underscored my perception as well, that despite the fact it's not perfect, Unicode is the...