Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
locator-sig · SIG about a Python Locator for resource discovery
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Want to share photos of your group with the world? Add a group photo to Flickr.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
[LOCATOR-SIG] Straw-man Python Locator   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #25 of 40 |
Re: [LOCATOR-SIG] Straw-man Python Locator

Andrew, Ken: I really like to see this happen -- here are some
comments that actually might make things a bit easier to implement, by
making them less ambitious.

I have no scientific evidence, but I'm not a big fan of keywords.
My guts tell me that an extensive keyword system may not be worth it.

I think I like the organization of a reference book best: there's a
hierarchical table of contents at the front, and there's an index in
the back. Translate this to computers, and you have something like
Ken's classification hierarchy, but without symbolic links, plus full
text search on the descriptions. The descriptions of course should be
structured (type, name, version, author, date, url, platform,
see-also, etc.) but additional full-text indexing a paragraph or two
of description makes it much easier to find things using odd search
criteria.

You could consider the hierarchical table of contents a keyword scheme
(and it has some of the same properties -- it needs occasional
extension but that's mostly a manual process) but the difference is
that each module is in exactly one place. That's useful because it
makes it possible to map it to a real file system without using
symbolic links (Ken already explained why that's a bad idea) and it
also makes it possible to get a feel for the size of the collection as
a whole, since every item is counted exactly once.

Some additional ways to access things might make things a lot more
usable:

- most popular (e.g. by recent download count, if available)

- new arrivals

- a personal selection (e.g. tchrist's selection from CPAN)

But just collecting the raw records for all items and making them
searchable is probably the most useful thing to start with. The FAQ
wizard might even be good enough!

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

_______________
LOCATOR-SIG: Discussions about a Python Locator for resource discovery

send messages to: locator-sig@...
administrivia to: locator-sig-request@...
_______________



Thu Jul 10, 1997 9:58 pm

guido@...
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #25 of 40 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

[ Sent to locator-sig, which seems dead, and starship-crew, which is definitely alive.] Here's a straw-man proposal for a Python module locator; the HTML looks...
Andrew Kuchling
amk@...
Send Email
Jul 9, 1997
10:11 pm

In message <199707091911.PAA04359@...>, Andrew Kuchling wrote: FUTURE: How should the tree be organized? Like the contrib directory on...
Stephen M. Wynne
stevemw@...
Send Email
Jul 9, 1997
8:04 pm

[ To avoid messy subject lines, follow-ups only to the Locator-SIG. ] ... That reminds me; a useful feature would be symlinks, so that Graphics/Image...
Andrew Kuchling
amk@...
Send Email
Jul 9, 1997
11:38 pm

... Structural links are a terrible pain! Keywords are the direct approach to providing inclusion of items in multiple categories. In particular, they don't...
Ken Manheimer
klm@...
Send Email
Jul 11, 1997
12:17 am

... I think that URL's should be listed when available, as real HREF's in the HTML. If the packages don't have 'home pages', then separate URL's should be...
David Ascher
da@...
Send Email
Jul 9, 1997
11:28 pm

... Hmm... that's a novel idea. Offhand I would think that the only things listed would be software; documentation is less common, and is already being...
Andrew Kuchling
amk@...
Send Email
Jul 10, 1997
12:20 am

I am thrilled to see you pursuing this, andrew! I know i won't have time for at least a few days to really look at what you're doing, but wanted to dump some...
Ken Manheimer
klm@...
Send Email
Jul 11, 1997
12:03 am

Andrew, Ken: I really like to see this happen -- here are some comments that actually might make things a bit easier to implement, by making them less...
Guido van Rossum
guido@...
Send Email
Jul 11, 1997
12:58 am
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help