... Actually, when the students surround the buiding, each student does perform part of the surrounding of the building. But the converse is not necessarily...
... I should make clear that the "set" that I'm talking about is simply what you'd call more than one student. I can't think of a less ambiguous word. "The...
... "This set of pencils costs ten dollars." That's the ordinary, everyday use of "set". It means that all the pencils together, not each one individually,...
... "The three guests went into the house together", the ordinary English sentence, is translated as {lo ci vitke cu ze'i klama le zdani}. "Together" has...
... It's a relationship abstraction. {su'u} takes a full bridi and converts it into a selbri. {su'u tadni} means {su'u zo'e tadni zo'e}, it does not select the...
Well, it is nice to find that I am not the only person who can get involved in interminable discussions with xorxes. But I now find myself sympathizing with...
... In "the 26 students surround the building" how many things are such that they *actually* surround the building? Note the difference between "playing a role...
Welcome back, I hope your rest was enjoyable. ... The difference between context and setting is definite. Setting handles "this", "me", and "now". Setting...
coi I've been trying to find the right tools for learning lojban for my pc and palm zire31 (the dinkiest one you can buy) and I've come across a few things...
so here is where I have gotten to so far. Since it seems to strike an important point, I jump in here. ... The point is that there is no necessary connection...
... I suspect moving the word {lu'o} out of selma'o LAhE and into, say, selma'o UI, is totally out of the question at this stage, so whatever the merits of the...
As you may recall, my suggestion mirrors the English for "individually" and "collectively" (or "together"), attaching as convenient to sumti or predicate place...
... For the sake of being understood, let's outline some terms: Mass: "the mass of X", "together the X", or {loi X}, etc. That is, one entity composed of...
... In English those adverbs normally indicate how the predicate applies to the subject. For example: The men carried the pianos together. would normally mean...
... That would be {sinxa}, "x1 refers to x2": lu le tadni li'u cu sinxa le tadni The expression {le tadni} refers to the students. ... That one is {dasni}, "x1...
... Yes ... Yes ... "-ment" was used in the sense of "act" and not in the sense of "event": ...the relationship between Alice and the "surrounding of the ...
... Yes, in the first case the predicate, "surround the building" is applied collectively, and in the second case the predicate "wear hats" is applied ...
... Uh, yeah. In the first one, it is applied "bunch-together", and in the second it is applied "bunch-individually". What's the difference between the two?...
... Its only use is to refer, in both cases. ... II don't see what's absurd about it. ... Yes, because "wore hats" is distributive. ... ...participated in the...
... Because it confuses "Alice herself wore a hat" with whatever you have for "Alice ...??... surrounded a building". Alice herself does not surround the...
... Each of a predicate's argument places _can_ be marked for it. It is not always marked, in the same way that tense is not always marked. ... It isn't...
... It wouldn't get marked in the same way as tense. Tense marks the entire bridi, or each sumti, and not the predicate place. It also uses very specific words...
... Yeah, though not restricted to x1, of course. ... Yes, the accumulated detritus in Lojban is considerable. I don't really expect that my suggestion would...
... Right, it wouldn't. What they both have in common is that the marking is optional, not how it is marked. ... How does it disallow it? lo pa no lo mu no...
... Here is a mathematical proof that it cannot be done with a single word. Consider the sentence: ko'a ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u broda gi'e brode It consists of...
Very nice. But, since the terms might be differently predicated on the two brivla, we would have to place the markers on the predicate not the term. This...
Actually, a singularist point of view does not prevent referring to the object (a mass in this case) with the same term for both distributive and collective...
... Yes. Or, we can do things like: le tadni cu ckaji lo ka ro ce'u dasni lo mapku kei .e lo ka lu'o ce'u sruri le dinju "The students have the properties that...
... On a pluralist view, reference is a relation, not a function, so that a single term may refer simultaneously to several things. A sentence using this term...
... <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_quantification> ... I suggest you actually read the book, especially the formal semantics. Or read some of Quine's ...
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