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Hello everybody!

I would like to ask people who know Tibetan to help me to understand
the meaning of the first stanza of a well-known aspiration prayer
Vidyadhara Chariot by Jamyang Kyentse Wangpo. Here is Tibetan text:

mi shigs thig le chen po'i ye shes ni
'od gsal gnyug ma'i mkha' dbyings dwangs pa'i ngos
zung 'jug dbang po'i gzhu ltar mngon snang ba'i
rang bzhin sprul pa'i zhing mchog pa+dma 'od

I saw two different translations. First from General Chants for the
Chokling Tersar:

The wisdom of the indestructible great bindhu
And the clear surface of the luminous innate expanse of space
Vividly manifest in unity, like the 'bow of Indra'
As a natural nirmanakaya real, the supreme Lotus Light.

And second from Rigpa Foundation:

The wisdom of the great, indestructible tigle
Shines in the limpid sky of innate clear light,
And the unity of space and wisdom, like a rainbow, appears for all to see
As the supreme, naturally emanated realm of Lotus Light.


They are different!:) Maybe somebody knows which one is more correct?




Sat Feb 2, 2008 7:28 pm

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Hello everybody! I would like to ask people who know Tibetan to help me to understand the meaning of the first stanza of a well-known aspiration prayer ...
m.brudov
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Feb 2, 2008
11:53 pm

Dear m. brudov and all... The entire context (see below) reveals more completely what you may perhaps be looking for? (that's a question) At any rate, I'm...
Richard
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Feb 3, 2008
2:09 am

Good idea using dharmadictionary.net and find out the entries. I would recommend anyone who is not sure to use that resource and find out how close you get...
Kent Sandvik
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Feb 3, 2008
2:11 am

(This is alll just my opinion!) It's interesting that neither version translates "thig le" into english - one leaves it as "tigle" (does that rhyme with...
wrighrp
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Feb 3, 2008
8:53 pm

Well, hi to Roger and everyone. First of all...this is only as I've come to hear and understand, so please take it only on face value. But where your own...
Richard
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Feb 4, 2008
2:28 am

Hi all, I think that every reader of both English translations will miss the two anchoring terms in the first two lines: ye-shes and dbyings. Of course,...
Dan Martin
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Feb 5, 2008
6:16 pm

Hello to Dan and all... I've come to believe, or feel anyway...that any reluctance which might have been experienced by buddhas prior to their enlightened...
Richard
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Feb 5, 2008
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