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Re: [lotsawa] The Sangs & the Rgyas

ooh, ooh, I forgot the when (translating the na)

When understanding completely opens to the objects of knowledge
defeating delusion (which is like a) closed bud,
Enlightenment completely blossoms like a lotus.

better, I think, but still needs work

> some thoughts: I think we might want to look at the flower metaphor
> through the first 3 lines: rgyas is blossoming, and zum pa is closed
> (opposite of open blossom.
>
>
>
> > shes bya la ni blo rnam rgyas //
> >
> > rmongs pa'i zum pa bcom pas na //
> >
> > sangs rgyas pad ma ltar rnam rgyas //
>
>
> so we might have something like:
>
> understanding completely opening to the objects of knowledge
> defeats delusion which is (like a) closed bud
> Enlightenment completely blossoms like a lotus.
>
> I know this is not the most fluid translations, but it is too hot to
> concentrate.
>
> Mike
>
> > When the understanding (buddhi) has expanded to (everything)
> knowable
> >
> > (by) silencing and destroying delusions
> >
> > (Then) the buddha unfolds like a lotus
> >
> >
> >
> > [def. of "buddhi" is "the faculty which knows." Understanding has
> > expanded to include everything that should be known."zum pa" -
> > "shutting up" or "silencing"]
> >
>
>
>
>




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Dear Gabriele, I don't really have an answer to your question, just to note that at the beginning of the Sgra-sbyor Bam-po Gnyis-pa (Madhyavyutpatti) in the...
Dan Martin
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Jun 17, 2008
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Dear Dan Thanks very much for all the info regarding the term Buddha. Anyway I could read properly as I do not have the Unicode font. Could you send it again...
Gabriel Jaeger
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Jun 21, 2008
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Hi Gabriel, I thought your translation was just fine. I went through the text and made a few notes and a correction to the root text. shes bya la ni blo rnam...
Kim Poulsen
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Jun 21, 2008
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some thoughts: I think we might want to look at the flower metaphor through the first 3 lines: rgyas is blossoming, and zum pa is closed (opposite of open...
Michael Essex
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Jun 22, 2008
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ooh, ooh, I forgot the when (translating the na) When understanding completely opens to the objects of knowledge defeating delusion (which is like a) closed...
Michael Essex
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Jun 22, 2008
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Hi Mike, good points. Your emphasis on the "closed" state is shared by others. While just googling this work I found this by Kelsang Wangmo from a tibetan...
Kim Poulsen
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Jun 22, 2008
7:43 pm

I got off on the side track of the verb zum pa. The tshig dzod chen mo gives zum pa- kha rub pa, (right below) but also - mig zum pa, rma kha zum pa, me tog...
Michael Essex
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Jun 22, 2008
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Dear Dharma friends, I am looking for the possible existence of a text called Abhidharmahrdaya, by Dharmasresthin, in Tibetan language. The text was translated...
Gabriel Jaeger
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Dear Gabriel, Dharmaśreṣṭhin (Chos kyi tshong dpon) — Chimpa, THBI, pp. 13, 82. — Davidson, IEB, p. 78 (Dharmaśreṣṭhī). Name inscribed on a...
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