===LUF List and Forum Rules=== 1: Remember that there is a person on the other end of your conversation and be considerate in your words. Be excellent to one...
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steve
rward8
Mar 2, 2011 7:06 pm
Wait you watch commercials? i just ignore them, out of the 100% of commercials i see i respond to 10% and may buy from 1% well im a 4 hour work week book...
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steve
rward8
Mar 2, 2011 10:23 pm
i will keep this as short as i can, Why is it i see 1001 very good drawled concepts. buildings mostly but several other projects as well that are vaporware. ...
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Bryan Bishop
cm007x2
Mar 2, 2011 10:53 pm
... Last time I talked with Patri (Seasteading Institute), he claims that he needs to use his money to raise more money. I don't know what his skills are in...
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spacecannon@...
spacecannon...
Mar 3, 2011 5:18 am
I think it's because anybody with real money doesnt want to leave the planet, or they want to use OPM to develop it, (thats how you stay rich by not risking...
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infinitusrex
Mar 3, 2011 5:05 pm
From TMP2: "The Foundation Community Network is a program focused primarily on the advocacy of marine, space, sustainable, and Post-Industrial development...
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John Drake
johndrake01
Mar 3, 2011 6:04 pm
Dear Spacecannon, A fish farm as a first step to go to space? No wonder that we still have a long way to go to reach deep space human colonization... Fis...
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spacecannon@...
spacecannon...
Mar 3, 2011 6:51 pm
Dear John, I agree with your opinion, but I hasn't happened and to make it happen in that most direct path requires big gov't money, the only nation actually...
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spacecannon@...
spacecannon...
Mar 3, 2011 7:03 pm
John, That was just my opinion and Im not interested in a flame war here, the flame wars are why many including me just lurk most of the time. The reason i...
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Warren Peters
redgriffin728
Mar 3, 2011 7:31 pm
I was watching PBS the other night and the folks at NASA are still trying to find a way for them to carry enough food to go to stay on and return from a trip...
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spacecannon@...
spacecannon...
Mar 3, 2011 8:16 pm
Warren, I here what you are saying. What I am actually advocating is selling the fish here to finance the greater plan. Even though my plan, if acheived...
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keithd21
Mar 3, 2011 10:32 pm
Steve, It isn't the commercials that get you. Consumerism is on display 24/7 in the content of the shows themselves. It is subtle and is bound to affect your...
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keithd21
Mar 3, 2011 10:40 pm
Jonas, LUF is dead? This list has been declared more times and Samuel Clemens. Perhaps the list un-dead. I use this list to stay loosely in contact with...
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Greg
gdville
Mar 4, 2011 1:47 am
John- I believe you've put the proverbial cart before the horse. Until we can survive long term in space, we will not be able to do any of the items you...
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John Drake
johndrake01
Mar 6, 2011 4:31 am
Greg, Human civilization on Earth has relatively little time left to find a way to fly to the stars. The main reasons are that its rapid buildup in numbers...
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Dee Neely
deejustdee
Mar 6, 2011 2:03 pm
There are no shortcuts. It is looking for shortcuts which has led us to the precipice we are on. However, the idea that human civilization is going to suddenly...
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Chad Lupkes
chadlupkes
Mar 6, 2011 3:56 pm
My problem with Zeitgeist and the Venus Project is that the only path from here to there is a complete collapse of our current civilization. They have no...
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Dee Neely
deejustdee
Mar 6, 2011 4:26 pm
Unfortunately, those deaths are coming because nothing, and I mean nothing, is being done to stop them. I used to think and hope that there was but there is...
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Steve Carr
ut00414
Mar 6, 2011 6:37 pm
And I'm terribly afraid that, as with so many civilizations before us, we are already far along the route to collapse. The infrastructure is so very fragile...
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Greg
gdville
Mar 6, 2011 9:51 pm
Dee is right. As I like to say, "Life is not a shortcut to the other side." The goal is not to occupy other planets so much as it is to evolve to live between ...
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John Drake
johndrake01
Mar 7, 2011 3:18 am
Greg, The primary goal of humanity is to survive and in that regard it is far easier to colonize "Earth type planets" than developing large livable habitats...
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jenny jamz
jenny6612003
Mar 7, 2011 3:18 am
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Chad Lupkes
chadlupkes
Mar 7, 2011 5:15 am
We could build millions of large, livable habitats outside an Earth type gravity well in the time it would take to reach ONE of the Earth-like planets within...
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infinitusrex
Mar 7, 2011 11:38 am
Hey Chad, Dee, Greg, Just a few weeks ago I saw the Zeitgeist bunch as a collection of conspiracy nuts and Internet fanboys with no sane strategy for the...
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Greg
gdville
Mar 8, 2011 3:49 am
I agree that the goal of our species (and all life) should be to survive. Unfortunately, at the human species level, there are no goals beyond our primitive...
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charles67.rm
Mar 8, 2011 4:42 am
Chad, Many of us over in the Yahoo group Sustainable Community are of the opinion that the collapse, at least in the US, is likely in less than 2 years. What...
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Michial Trayler
michialtoo
Mar 8, 2011 12:54 pm
http://www.greentower.net Weblink is not available. any more info on this energy construction project? From: "charles67.rm" <charles67@...> To:...
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tom
tahanson43206
Mar 8, 2011 1:47 pm
Hi Jonas, A few messages back from this one, you posted a message commenting upon the low level of achievement of the LUF to date. You even went so far as to...
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Chad Lupkes
chadlupkes
Mar 8, 2011 2:46 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_updraft_tower ... -- Chad Lupkes - http://chadlupkes.blogspot.com Chair, 46th District Democrats - http://46dems.com 3rd...
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John Drake
johndrake01
Mar 9, 2011 12:23 am
Greg, Humanity has reached a little higher on the global evolutionary scale than mitochondria... Some of its members still have considerable creativity and...
