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#25955 From: George Tarsoudis <g.tarsoudis@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:10 am
Subject: Re: Theophilus-Cyrillus 11-05-09
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Great details Wes, what filter do you use ? I see you have use at this
time more bigger f.

Regards, George

O/H starman10us έγραψε:
>
> Hi,
>
> Another one from 11-05-09,Theophilus IMO has the most impressive
> central peak of any crater on the near side in fact I think it is
> practically a mountain range in it's own right.
> The image details are with the image.
>
> http://higginsandsons.com/astro/Pictures-iin-templets/THEOPHILUS-11-05-09.htm
>
<http://higginsandsons.com/astro/Pictures-iin-templets/THEOPHILUS-11-05-09.htm>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes Higgins
>
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#25954 From: "rogue_forest" <rogue_forest@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:56 am
Subject: OT: LPOD--NO LONGER STRAIGHT
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I never grow bored of Rupes Recta, in fact, when the phase is right to observe
it, there is where you will find me. I often compared it to the topographic
features of Paris, France. Outside the Paris basin it is ringed by tiers of
gentle plateaus slopes that abruptly conclude into precipitious cliff scarps.
Then well beyound, into the German border we find the massive graben in which
the Rhine River has insinuated itself within. Inspite of these comparisons, they
fall short, for the Straight Wall is a unique feature. Maybe in our lifetime the
triggering cause of its existance will be revealed.

My private nomanclature for this feature is "the Las Vegas Strip". I envisions
numerous hotels and township complexes situated parallel on the upper surface.
Tax revenues collected from these businesses would pay for on going non stop
scientific research. Wouldn't you pay for the chance to ski down certain groomed
slopes of Rupes Recta? Or being a workman on a crew that is deep drilling for
core samples or the lab tech back at the labs who will analyze them. Or perhaps
standing near the edge and looking out over the vast Mare before you with
binoculars. But this is only a dream. I guess Niagra Falls will just have to do
for now.

rogue

#25953 From: "Mike White" <mike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:36 am
Subject: Re: Theophilus-Cyrillus 11-05-09
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Outstanding, yet again Wes!

Regards,
Mike White
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--- In lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com, "starman10us" <STARMAN2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Another one from 11-05-09,Theophilus IMO has the most impressive central peak
of any crater on the near side in fact I think it is practically a mountain
range in it's own right.
> The image details are with the image.
>
> http://higginsandsons.com/astro/Pictures-iin-templets/THEOPHILUS-11-05-09.htm
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes Higgins
>

#25952 From: "Mike White" <mike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:34 am
Subject: Re: Janssen 11-05-09
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Wes, that has to be one of the most outstanding lunar images I think I've ever
seen.  You almost feel like you could open your lunar lander door and climb down
to the lunar surface!

Absolutely stunning!  Well done.

Regards,
Mike White
Levin, NZ

--- In lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com, "starman10us" <STARMAN2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think this is my best image of Janssen to date I have one from 10-29-07 that
is close but I like this one better.
>
> Imaged 11-05-09, 9:22 UT, 18 Inch Reflector, stack of 427 frames from 1100,
Avistack, Photoshop CS4
>
> http://higginsandsons.com/astro/Pictures-iin-templets/Janssen-11-05-09-X10.htm
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes Higgins
>

#25951 From: "moonnerd" <moonnerd@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:15 am
Subject: Re: Janssen 11-05-09
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--- In lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com, "starman10us" <STARMAN2@...> wrote:
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> Hi Rob,
>
> Thanks!! IMO though there are several here and on other forums that post
images as good as mine.



Yes Wes, I've seen those...  on the LPI site, in the Apollo image gallery.

#25950 From: "starman10us" <STARMAN2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:58 pm
Subject: Theophilus-Cyrillus 11-05-09
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Hi,

Another one from 11-05-09,Theophilus IMO has the most impressive central peak of
any crater on the near side in fact I think it is practically a mountain range
in it's own right.
The image details are with the image.

http://higginsandsons.com/astro/Pictures-iin-templets/THEOPHILUS-11-05-09.htm

Thanks,

Wes Higgins

#25949 From: Charles Wood <tychocrater@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: How would we call this?
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No - the possible CC isn't related. The handcuff features - good descriptive name! - are most likely Imbrium basin secondary craters that were flooded by Frigoris lavas.
Chuck

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Danny Caes <danny.caes1@...> wrote:
Peter,
No no! The sperm-like formation east of the bright ray-crater La Condamine S
is just a wrinkle ridge (the one with the small bowl-shaped crater at its
northern end). It's those curious "handcuff" shaped arcs in that region!
They are all over! Some of them have the appearance as if they are "closed",
others are "open".
I call these handcuff shaped ring-arcs "moulures" because they have some
sort of curly "1700's" look (Bass-relief shapes which are noticeable in
antique ceiling-decoration, etc...).
P.S.:
Note also the possible concentric crater La Condamine SA, west of the bright
ray-crater La Condamine S! (yes; concentric craters abound in this region!
Perhaps they are all related to those handcuff shaped arcs?).

Danny.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lloyd" <lunar.lloyd@...>
To: <lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] How would we call this?


> I'm not sure what you mean either, Danny, but are you referring to the
> feature to the right of the very bright crater near the top centre of
> the picture? It looks like a sperm to me, so maybe sperma would be a
> generic name. (Although sperma is Greek - I don't know the Latin.)
>
> Peter
>
> Danny Caes wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear group,
>> A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of
>> lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's
>> photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or
>> "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of
>> something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the
>> exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could
>> see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for
>> example).
>> I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which
>> shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in
>> Mare Frigoris).
>> See:
>> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunarorbiter/images/preview/4145_h3.jpg
>> Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is
>> rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
>> Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described
>> somewhere?
>> P.S.:
>> Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of
>> "twisted arc-shapes".
>>
>> Danny.



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#25948 From: Peter Lloyd <lunar.lloyd@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:42 am
Subject: Re: Re: How would we call this?
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Now I understand, Danny.   I took those to be old, flooded craters.

Peter

Danny Caes wrote:
> Peter,
> No no! The sperm-like formation east of the bright ray-crater La Condamine S
> is just a wrinkle ridge (the one with the small bowl-shaped crater at its
> northern end). It's those curious "handcuff" shaped arcs in that region!
> They are all over! Some of them have the appearance as if they are "closed",
> others are "open".
> I call these handcuff shaped ring-arcs "moulures" because they have some
> sort of curly "1700's" look (Bass-relief shapes which are noticeable in
> antique ceiling-decoration, etc...).
> P.S.:
> Note also the possible concentric crater La Condamine SA, west of the bright
> ray-crater La Condamine S! (yes; concentric craters abound in this region!
> Perhaps they are all related to those handcuff shaped arcs?).
>
> Danny.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lloyd" <lunar.lloyd@...>
> To: <lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] How would we call this?
>
>
>
>> I'm not sure what you mean either, Danny, but are you referring to the
>> feature to the right of the very bright crater near the top centre of
>> the picture?  It looks like a sperm to me, so maybe sperma would be a
>> generic name. (Although sperma is Greek - I don't know the Latin.)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Danny Caes wrote:
>>
>>> Dear group,
>>> A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of
>>> lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's
>>> photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or
>>> "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of
>>> something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the
>>> exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could
>>> see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for
>>> example).
>>> I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which
>>> shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in
>>> Mare Frigoris).
>>> See:
>>> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunarorbiter/images/preview/4145_h3.jpg
>>> Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is
>>> rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
>>> Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described
>>> somewhere?
>>> P.S.:
>>> Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of
>>> "twisted arc-shapes".
>>>
>>> Danny.
>>>
>
>
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#25947 From: "Danny Caes" <danny.caes1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:40 am
Subject: Re: How would we call this?
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Peter,
No no! The sperm-like formation east of the bright ray-crater La Condamine S
is just a wrinkle ridge (the one with the small bowl-shaped crater at its
northern end). It's those curious "handcuff" shaped arcs in that region!
They are all over! Some of them have the appearance as if they are "closed",
others are "open".
I call these handcuff shaped ring-arcs "moulures" because they have some
sort of curly "1700's" look (Bass-relief shapes which are noticeable in
antique ceiling-decoration, etc...).
P.S.:
Note also the possible concentric crater La Condamine SA, west of the bright
ray-crater La Condamine S! (yes; concentric craters abound in this region!
Perhaps they are all related to those handcuff shaped arcs?).

Danny.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lloyd" <lunar.lloyd@...>
To: <lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] How would we call this?


> I'm not sure what you mean either, Danny, but are you referring to the
> feature to the right of the very bright crater near the top centre of
> the picture?  It looks like a sperm to me, so maybe sperma would be a
> generic name. (Although sperma is Greek - I don't know the Latin.)
>
> Peter
>
> Danny Caes wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear group,
>> A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of
>> lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's
>> photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or
>> "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of
>> something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the
>> exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could
>> see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for
>> example).
>> I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which
>> shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in
>> Mare Frigoris).
>> See:
>> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunarorbiter/images/preview/4145_h3.jpg
>> Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is
>> rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
>> Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described
>> somewhere?
>> P.S.:
>> Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of
>> "twisted arc-shapes".
>>
>> Danny.

#25946 From: George Tarsoudis <g.tarsoudis@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:39 am
Subject: Re: How would we call this?
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Sperma is the Greek word and in English mean semen! for me is like as ovum.

Regards, George

O/H Peter Lloyd έγραψε:
> I'm not sure what you mean either, Danny, but are you referring to the
> feature to the right of the very bright crater near the top centre of
> the picture?  It looks like a sperm to me, so maybe sperma would be a
> generic name. (Although sperma is Greek - I don't know the Latin.)
>
> Peter
>
> Danny Caes wrote:
>
>> Dear group,
>> A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of
>> lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's
>> photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or
>> "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of
>> something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the
>> exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could
>> see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for
>> example).
>> I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which
>> shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in
>> Mare Frigoris).
>> See:
>> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunarorbiter/images/preview/4145_h3.jpg
>> Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is
>> rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
>> Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described
>> somewhere?
>> P.S.:
>> Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of
>> "twisted arc-shapes".
>>
>> Danny.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

#25945 From: Peter Lloyd <lunar.lloyd@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:09 am
Subject: Re: How would we call this?
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I'm not sure what you mean either, Danny, but are you referring to the
feature to the right of the very bright crater near the top centre of
the picture?  It looks like a sperm to me, so maybe sperma would be a
generic name. (Although sperma is Greek - I don't know the Latin.)

Peter

Danny Caes wrote:
>
>
> Dear group,
> A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of
> lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's
> photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or
> "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of
> something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the
> exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could
> see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for
> example).
> I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which
> shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in
> Mare Frigoris).
> See:
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunarorbiter/images/preview/4145_h3.jpg
> Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is
> rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
> Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described
> somewhere?
> P.S.:
> Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of
> "twisted arc-shapes".
>
> Danny.
>
>
>

--
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Bedfordshire, UK.
51 56' 47"N  0 32' 05"W
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#25944 From: "Danny Caes" <danny.caes1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:44 am
Subject: Re: How would we call this?
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Chuck,
I could be wrong, but... I think this is the only region on the entire moon which is some sort of "meeting place" of those "twisted arc-shapes" (in that part of Mare Frigoris between La Condamine and J.Herschel).
I must say, there's another one at Sinus Roris (it's not really crowded like the one at Mare Frigoris).
The L.P.I.'s Hi-Res scans of Lunar Orbiter 4's photographs are an exploring and investigating eye's pleasure! Once I had the opportunity to explore the printed version of all these photographs (as a book). The online Hi-Res scans are the "second round" (or "appendix") of this great exploration.
 
Danny.
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] How would we call this?

Danny - I am not completely sure what features you are referring to as moulures. There are a lot of intersecting and flooded basin secondary craters here that have interesting arc segments.
Chuck Wood

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Danny Caes <danny.caes1@...> wrote:
 

Dear group,
A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for example).
I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in Mare Frigoris).
See:
Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described somewhere?
P.S.:
Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of "twisted arc-shapes".
 
Danny.

#25943 From: Charles Wood <tychocrater@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:35 am
Subject: Re: How would we call this?
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Danny - I am not completely sure what features you are referring to as moulures. There are a lot of intersecting and flooded basin secondary craters here that have interesting arc segments.
Chuck Wood

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Danny Caes <danny.caes1@...> wrote:

Dear group,
A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curiouskind of lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's photographs.This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could see while observinghistoric white-painted ceilings, in a museum for example).
I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in Mare Frigoris).
See:
Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described somewhere?
P.S.:
Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of "twisted arc-shapes".
Danny.



#25942 From: "Danny Caes" <danny.caes1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:50 pm
Subject: How would we call this?
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Dear group,
A couple of months ago (or perhaps more) I noticed a curious kind of lunar surface formation on several of Lunar Orbiter 4's photographs. This formation looks like some sort of "twisted arc" or "twisted ring-crater", and could be seen as a lunar equivalent of something which is known on earth as "moulures" (I hope I use the exact word for it)(I mean: certain Bass-relief "things" that one could see while observing historic white-painted ceilings, in a museum for example).
I have included the link to one of those L.O.-4 photographs, which shows La Condamine and the field of twisted arc-shapes north of it (in Mare Frigoris).
See:
Now, how would we call this kind of surface formation? ("moulures" is rather clumsy, it needs something much more scientific).
Was this kind of surface formation already investigated and described somewhere?
P.S.:
Another curiosity is the abundance of Concentric Craters at regions of "twisted arc-shapes".
 
Danny.

#25941 From: Alan Friedman <alan@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: football question
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The orbital reference is what one finds when looking up the derivation of first and last quarter... I still find it fascinating that "full" winds up in the middle of the two (instead of half, or something like that.) It evokes for me the balance of scientific/emotional that we experience when we share our passion for the moon and astronomy in general. When the moon is fully illuminated from our perspective, it is just too powerful a force to discuss in terms of orbit... and "full" is a very apt description, not "big" or "near" assigning guesses about size or closeness, it is just... complete. 

My dark side imagines a push by the Pluto is not a planet movement to eliminate the old descriptions entirely and just call it "half" all the time... <kidding smile>

I think this is a lovely topic for LPOD, or perhaps it has already been?

cheers,
Alan



On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:22 AM, bob_p@... wrote:

 

Peter, I hadn't thought of it in reference to the orbit quarters. Too narrow thinking on my part. Even then it is not consistent though as you point out, with full moon being used instead of second quarter.  Not of any significance. I was just curious.
 
Bob
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/10/2009 8:57:18 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] football question

 

The quarters refer to the lunar cycle - new, first quarter, full, third
quarter, and back to new. Think of it as quarters of the orbit if you
like. So, yes, full moon is second quarter. So at first and third
quarter the Moon appears half illuminated from here.

HTH

Peter

bob_p@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>
> Hi Alan,
> Good wintry scene - at least I imagine it might be wintry even
> now up there in Buffalo :) .
>
> Your question is a good one! The phase nomenclature isn't very
> consistent. Either it should be First/Last Quarter and Half (instead
> of full moon) or it should be First/Last Half and Full moon. I wonder
> when the nomenclature First/Last Quarter appeared. Did they know then
> that the moon was really a sphere (more or less) and they were really
> therefore seeing only one quarter of it? Oh well, the only consistency
> in the world is inconsistency :) .
>
> Regards, Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Alan Friedman <mailto:alan@greatarrow.com>
> *To: *lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* 11/9/2009 9:39:41 AM
> *Subject:* [lunar-observing] football question
>
>
>
> Like Bob, I was stalking the moon this weekend with a hand held
> camera. Maybe it comes from the experience of walking down the street
> and seeing the glow in every living room of a widescreen TV playing a
> football game... but I have to ask, is this the last quarter, or the
> second half?
>
> http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html
> <http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html>
>
> cheers,
> Alan
>
>
>
>

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#25940 From: "bob_p@..." <bob_p@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: football question
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Peter, I hadn't thought of it in reference to the orbit quarters. Too narrow thinking on my part. Even then it is not consistent though as you point out, with full moon being used instead of second quarter.  Not of any significance. I was just curious.
 
Bob
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/10/2009 8:57:18 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] football question

 

The quarters refer to the lunar cycle - new, first quarter, full, third
quarter, and back to new. Think of it as quarters of the orbit if you
like. So, yes, full moon is second quarter. So at first and third
quarter the Moon appears half illuminated from here.

HTH

Peter

bob_p@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>
> Hi Alan,
> Good wintry scene - at least I imagine it might be wintry even
> now up there in Buffalo :) .
>
> Your question is a good one! The phase nomenclature isn't very
> consistent. Either it should be First/Last Quarter and Half (instead
> of full moon) or it should be First/Last Half and Full moon. I wonder
> when the nomenclature First/Last Quarter appeared. Did they know then
> that the moon was really a sphere (more or less) and they were really
> therefore seeing only one quarter of it? Oh well, the only consistency
> in the world is inconsistency :) .
>
> Regards, Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Alan Friedman <mailto:alan@greatarrow.com>
> *To: *lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* 11/9/2009 9:39:41 AM
> *Subject:* [lunar-observing] football question
>
>
>
> Like Bob, I was stalking the moon this weekend with a hand held
> camera. Maybe it comes from the experience of walking down the street
> and seeing the glow in every living room of a widescreen TV playing a
> football game... but I have to ask, is this the last quarter, or the
> second half?
>
> http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html
> <http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html>
>
> cheers,
> Alan
>
>
>
>

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#25939 From: Peter Lloyd <lunar.lloyd@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: football question
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The quarters refer to the lunar cycle - new, first quarter, full, third
quarter, and back to new.  Think of it as quarters of the orbit if you
like.  So, yes, full moon is second quarter.  So at first and third
quarter the Moon appears half illuminated from here.

HTH

Peter

bob_p@... wrote:
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>       Good wintry scene - at least I imagine it might be wintry even
> now up there in Buffalo :) .
>
> Your question is a good one! The phase nomenclature isn't very
> consistent. Either it should be First/Last Quarter and Half (instead
> of full moon) or it should be First/Last Half and Full moon. I wonder
> when the nomenclature First/Last Quarter appeared. Did they know then
> that the moon was really a sphere (more or less) and they were really
> therefore seeing only one quarter of it? Oh well, the only consistency
> in the world is inconsistency :) .
>
> Regards, Bob
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Alan Friedman <mailto:alan@...>
>     *To: *lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* 11/9/2009 9:39:41 AM
>     *Subject:* [lunar-observing] football question
>
>
>
>     Like Bob, I was stalking the moon this weekend with a hand held
>     camera. Maybe it comes from the experience of walking down the street
>     and seeing the glow in every living room of a widescreen TV playing a
>     football game... but I have to ask, is this the last quarter, or the
>     second half?
>
>     http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html
>     <http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html>
>
>     cheers,
>     Alan
>
>
>
>

--
Peter Lloyd
Bedfordshire, UK.
51 56' 47"N  0 32' 05"W
http://www [dot] astrolloyd [dot] tk
http://www.madpc.net/~peterl/

#25938 From: Peter Lloyd <lunar.lloyd@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:33 am
Subject: Re: football question
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Third Quarter!  <grin>

Peter

Alan Friedman wrote:
> Like Bob, I was stalking the moon this weekend with a hand held
> camera. Maybe it comes from the experience of walking down the street
> and seeing the glow in every living room of a widescreen TV playing a
> football game... but I have to ask, is this the last quarter, or the
> second half?
>
> http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html
>
> cheers,
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
>
>
>

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#25937 From: "bob_p@..." <bob_p@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: Moon Halo
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Hi Stefan, 
     Thanks for the feedback - I didn't think anyone would like the lens flare.  I wish I could take credit for nicely judging anything here, but it was pretty much all luck. The deck limited how it could be framed and the flare was just as it happened - no mods on my part. Proves once again that sheer blind luck often exceeds what can be planned  :)
 
Regards, Bob
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/9/2009 2:36:12 PM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] Moon Halo

 

That's a beautiful halo shot Bob. Maybe I'm a philistine but I like those subtle reflections, I think they are what really makes this image. Just the right dose (nicely judged! ;o)
 
Regards,
Stefan

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: [lunar-observing] Moon Halo

 

Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at 20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure. (Seems strange to talk about imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the moon.

http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original

Regards, Bob



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#25936 From: "bob_p@..." <bob_p@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: Moon Halo
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Thanks Alan and Wes! I appreciate your feedback.
 
Regards, Bob
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/9/2009 9:36:17 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] Moon Halo

 

beautiful Bob!


best,
Alan



On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:22 AM, bob_p@earthlink.net wrote:

 

Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at 20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure. (Seems strange to talk about imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the moon.

http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original

Regards, Bob



#25935 From: "bob_p@..." <bob_p@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:54 pm
Subject: RE: football question
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Hi Alan,
      Good wintry scene - at least I imagine it might be wintry even now up there in Buffalo :) .
 
Your question is a good one! The phase nomenclature isn't very consistent. Either it should be First/Last Quarter and Half (instead of full moon) or it should be First/Last Half and Full moon. I wonder when the nomenclature First/Last Quarter appeared. Did they know then that the moon was really a sphere (more or less) and they were really therefore seeing only one quarter of it? Oh well, the only consistency in the world is inconsistency :) .
 
Regards, Bob 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/9/2009 9:39:41 AM
Subject: [lunar-observing] football question

 

Like Bob, I was stalking the moon this weekend with a hand held
camera. Maybe it comes from the experience of walking down the street
and seeing the glow in every living room of a widescreen TV playing a
football game... but I have to ask, is this the last quarter, or the
second half?

http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html

cheers,
Alan


#25934 From: "abozic93" <abozic93@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: Janssen 11-05-09
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A-MA-ZING!! Sharpnes and the touching feeling of sunrays,... As beautifull as
Moon can be!
AB

--- In lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com, "starman10us" <STARMAN2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think this is my best image of Janssen to date I have one from 10-29-07 that
is close but I like this one better.
>
> Imaged 11-05-09, 9:22 UT, 18 Inch Reflector, stack of 427 frames from 1100,
Avistack, Photoshop CS4
>
> http://higginsandsons.com/astro/Pictures-iin-templets/Janssen-11-05-09-X10.htm
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes Higgins
>

#25933 From: "Stefan Lammel" <slamm@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: Moon Halo
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That's a beautiful halo shot Bob. Maybe I'm a philistine but I like those subtle reflections, I think they are what really makes this image. Just the right dose (nicely judged! ;o)
 
Regards,
Stefan

From: bob_p@...
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: [lunar-observing] Moon Halo

 

Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at 20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure. (Seems strange to talk about imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the moon.

http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original

Regards, Bob



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#25932 From: "starman10us" <STARMAN2@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:41 pm
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Hi Bob,

Beautiful! image, the halo behind the tree makes a great composition and the
stars add the extra touch.

Thanks,

Wes

--- In lunar-observing@yahoogroups.com, bob_p@... wrote:
>
> Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried
around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at
20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars
trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure.  (Seems strange to talk about
imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the
moon.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original
>
> Regards, Bob
>

#25931 From: Alan Friedman <alan@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:39 pm
Subject: football question
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Like Bob, I was stalking the moon this weekend with a hand held
camera. Maybe it comes from the experience of walking down the street
and seeing the glow in every living room of a widescreen TV playing a
football game... but I have to ask, is this the last quarter, or the
second half?

http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/secondhalf.html

cheers,
Alan

#25930 From: "bob_p@..." <bob_p@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Moon Halo
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Hi Peter,
      Well, I wasn't up quite as early as you - around 5. Same thing happened here in Western North Carolina - eventually the high altitude clouds thickened and by 8 am it was completely cloudy.
      Hope you got something with Clavius!
 
Regards, Bob
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/9/2009 9:13:35 AM
Subject: Re: [lunar-observing] Moon Halo

 

I wonder what you mean by "early", Bob.

I woke at 0400 and saw a clear, beautiful, third-quarter Moon high in
the sky, so I dressed hurriedly and opened up my observatory, set up my
camera and took a trial shot of Clavius. I was then prowling the Moon
looking for more good targets when I realised something was wrong. The
Moon was vanishing into the mist...

Well I'm glad someone got something better out of the morning <grin>.
Nicely caught. I admit I didn't notice if there was one here. Nor did
I realise Mars would be so high.

Cheers,

Peter

bob_p@earthlink.net wrote:
> Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at 20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure. (Seems strange to talk about imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the moon.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original
>
> Regards, Bob
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
>
>
>

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#25929 From: Alan Friedman <alan@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Moon Halo
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beautiful Bob!

best,
Alan



On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:22 AM, bob_p@... wrote:

 

Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at 20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure. (Seems strange to talk about imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the moon.

http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original

Regards, Bob



#25928 From: Peter Lloyd <lunar.lloyd@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Moon Halo
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I wonder what you mean by "early", Bob.

I woke at 0400 and saw a clear, beautiful, third-quarter Moon high in
the sky, so I dressed hurriedly and opened up my observatory, set up my
camera and took a trial shot of Clavius.  I was then prowling the Moon
looking for more good targets when I realised something was wrong.  The
Moon was vanishing into the mist...

Well I'm glad someone got something better out of the morning <grin>.
Nicely caught.   I admit I didn't notice if there was one here.  Nor did
I realise Mars would be so high.

Cheers,

Peter

bob_p@... wrote:
> Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried
around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at
20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars
trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure.  (Seems strange to talk about
imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the
moon.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original
>
> Regards, Bob
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--
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51º 56' 47"N  0º 32' 05"W
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#25927 From: bob_p@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:22 am
Subject: Moon Halo
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Woke up early and saw this moon halo through the bedroom skylight. Scurried
around to get my camera, tripod, etc. and got this. 30 sec exposure, ISO 800, at
20mm f.l. - unfortunately a few lens reflections also got included - also stars
trailed a bit since this was an unguided exposure.  (Seems strange to talk about
imaging the moon at such a short focal length :) That's Mars just above the
moon.

http://www.pbase.com/bob_p/image/119208103/original

Regards, Bob

#25926 From: "Peter Grego" <petermoon1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:19 am
Subject: 2009 November 9 -- Conon, Lacus Felicitatis
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Conon, Lacus Felicitatis
2009 November 9
02:45-03:30 UT
Col. 171.3-171.7
Seeing: AIII, cold, clear, no wind
200mm SCT, 200x, binoview, integrated light
PDA sketch, enhanced in PhotoPaint immediately
Peter Grego
Location: St Dennis, Cornwall, UK
Intending to sketch an interesting area to the east of the prominent Apennine
crater Conon, including Lacus Felicitatis, I discovered that the scale of the
sketch on PDA was not sufficiently small enough for me to depict the very finest
detail with confidence and precision. Besides, there was so much detail on offer
that I decided to sketch the entire region of the Apennines covered by the PDA
screen to the scale of the original drawing, rather than starting again to a
more convenient scale. So, in view of the scale, plus the not-too-good seeing
conditions and the wealth of detail sometimes overwhelming the senses, this is
just a general impression of a most complicated area. Complicated mountainous
areas are among the most difficult of lunar terrains to capture well in a
drawing. Lacus Felicitatis formed a striking lozenge-shaped low-lying area amid
uplands to the north and south; several ridges ran along the feature and the
crater Yangel was clearly visible at its eastern edge. Much of the landscape
here was clearly seen to be radial to the Imbrium basin. Rima Conon was visible
and Mons Bradley was very bright. To the north, Aratus was visible but Galen
seemingly lost amid the jumble of shadows.

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