I'm currently faced with a boss who wants to add some corporate identity to our first Mac application. I'm trying to resist his requests to add a 'web-style'...
... Unfortunately it is in all of the apps he has written! We even have one app where each button on the form is our company logo with the name of the company...
... Well, applying the CI in general is not inherently a bad thing. CI is usually more than a logo: It involves stationery, design elements like separators, or...
... I'm sorry to say that I laughed at your last sentence. Do you know which company I work for by any chance? ;) Sadly it does look amateurish and, although...
... Unfortunately, whilst I'm still an employee anyway, I'm going to have to resist tell you what it is (one of the reasons I'm posting from my personal email...
Simon, ... I presume this is a part of your app's tiered pricing structure? Hideous logo ..... FREE Logo removed ..... $19.95 All kidding aside, I think you...
(Thanks to Uli for approving this post; for folks trawling the archives, job posts should be vetted through mac-gui-dev-owner@yahoogroups.com before posting.) ...
Hi Uli, You could do what Snapz Pro does, which is offer to continue exporting, or cancel the export and quit. The escape key doesn't bind to anything in that...
Hey Uli, ... Of the approaches you described I'd favor making ESC equivalent to Keep Exporting as well as RETURN, but an alternative you might consider is to...
You really should have a "Cancel" button in there. Cancel always has the behavior of taking no effect... so it would just cancel the Quit. Which is probably...
Jon Hull
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Sep 3, 2008 6:52 pm
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... IMHO, I think a distinction can be made between a destructive action that causes data loss, like overwriting a file during a copy or deleting records in a...
Hello, ... I would suggest the absolutely non-destructive approach where both the return key and esc cause the app to continue its work. If someone who ...
... I actually very consciously named it "Keep Exporting", because a button named "Cancel" may confuse the user: Does this mean it'll cancel the export? Or my...
... The rightmost (in left to right scripts anyway) button should be the 'affirmative' button. So in your case the user asked to quit, so the rightmost button...
Sean McBride
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Sep 3, 2008 9:53 pm
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... Jon's suggestion trumps the whole "Quit/Cancel" debate. If you can pause/resume your export, do so, and forget all the alert dialog stuff. - @Clarko...
... That's why you should reformulate the alert to be about quitting, not exporting. Like this: Do you really want to quit now? If you quit now, an export ...
... That can be solved with a thorough explanation of the options: Are you sure you want to quit? If you continue to quit the application, the export...
... Would be hard to pull that off, though. I'd have to keep around the original file, too (because the user could change that in the meantime). We're talking...
... Still doesn't fit the "Don't make me think" rule. If the user was really doing something else while quitting my app, they aren't putting their full...
... Wish it were that simple. Adding more text generally doesn't help much, because just like on web pages, users scan the text, looking for information...
... Yes. I read it in the old Inside Macintosh series (the topic version as opposed to the numbered version). The reason you should always have "Cancel" is...
Jon Hull
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Sep 4, 2008 1:19 pm
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... Uli, I think you should map the Escape and Return to the same button: I'm currently Exporting. Do you really want to quit and lose the exported file? ...
... That shouldn't be a big problem: when a new export is queued, the "quit after export" request is either canceled or extended to after the new request has...
Ok, you now have a boat load of suggestions which have some theoretical advantages or disadvantages over each other. It's time to mock the more promising ones...
... My sentiments exactly. :-) Thanks for all your great suggestions. Will have to see what to implement now. Cheers, -- Uli Kusterer "The Witnesses of...
Hmm... If you do have a Quit after Export option, I would hide all UI except a progress box and the menubar (when it is selected). If the user does anything...
Jon Hull
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Sep 6, 2008 10:19 pm
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As a clarification: when the option is selected... not the menubar. Thanks, Jon...
Jon Hull
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Sep 6, 2008 10:34 pm
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Thought you guys might appreciate this: http://www.uiandus.com/2008/09/10/uncategorized/email-interview-with-william-van-hecke-omni-group/ Cheers, -- Uli...
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