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Re: RM Converter?

I think I'm leaning the same way at this point. Based on what I've
seen so far, I don't trust the converter. Luckily it was a major
screw-up, so it was easy to spot. I was just looking for a little
easier and quicker way to convert rather than manually doing it.

In any case, I've submitted a small test application that fails
conversion to Magic support and they say they will forward it on to
Ocean. We'll see what comes out.

Andy

--- In magicu-l@yahoogroups.com, "Rosie Coller" <RosieC.eDev@...>
wrote:
>
> The release notes ammused me...
>
> "The Record Main Converter utility locates *ALL* of the Record Main
based
> logic of a uniPaaS application and automatically and *FULLY*
converts it to
> event based logic while keeping the *ENTIRE* functionality of the
> application intact. "
>
> "Note that the Record Main Converter utility might not handle
specific
> complex logic segments. "
>
> Well is it an ALL/FULLY/ENTIRE conversion or not! Bit of a
contradiction
> there!
>
> Anyway personally I've not tried because I fear it would mess us our
> application with about 2500 programs.
> A complete screw up is not so bad as a minor one, a complete screw
up you
> would imediately spot and go back to a backup, but a minor one
might not be
> spotted for a long time... we can't completely re-test an
application this
> size!
>
> Rosie
>
>
>
>
> 2008/11/21 Steven Burrows <stevenburrows@...>
>
> > I seem to have the same results. The log seems to be totally
random,
> > listing new unneeded handlers for controls that don't exist in
the wrong
> > task and program.
> >
> > As an example:
> >
> > 12.1.2.1.1 Calculate
> >
> > New Handler created: Control Verification on G_DDProgNumber
> >
> > That is a batch task with no controls at all, and has no Verify
> > operations
> >
> > That Control name is not used at all in the first 160 programs
that I
> > can see with the demo license.
> >
> > When I found a task that did originally have RM Compatible
operations,
> > the converted task was simply missing them. There was nothing in
the log
> > that was even close to what should have happened. I was by no
means
> > expecting this to be perfect, especially the first release, but
this
> > seems utterly pointless.
> >
> > Steve Burrows
> > Software Development Manager
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: magicu-l@yahoogroups.com <magicu-l%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
> > magicu-l@yahoogroups.com <magicu-l%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of ajreynolds1
> > Sent: 21 November 2008 00:06
> > To: magicu-l@yahoogroups.com <magicu-l%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [magicu-l] RM Converter?
> >
> > I have just upgraded to uniPaaS 1.5, which includes the RM
converter,
> > but I can't get it to work. I've got a project I converted from
8.3.
> > When I try to run the RM converter on it, there are two problems.
> > First, the log shows the wrong task names when you view the
details.
> > Second, and much worse, is that it lost almost all of my code!
The log
> > shows a bunch of programs where logic was supposedly moved to
Control
> > Verification events, but when I look at the programs all of the
logic
> > that was in the RM before the conversion and should have been
moved to
> > those events is simply gone! Most of it isn't even tricky logic,
just
> > verifying that the user entered data in fields.
> >
> > Has anyone else tried the RM converter successfully? Anyone
> > experienced this sort of problem? I really don't want to manually
> > remove the RM from all of the programs in my 1000 program
project...
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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I have just upgraded to uniPaaS 1.5, which includes the RM converter, but I can't get it to work. I've got a project I converted from 8.3. When I try to run...
ajreynolds1
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Nov 21, 2008
12:06 am

Andy, When I converted to v10.x, there was no RM converter. I found that there were a reasonable number of changes to each program anyway, so I have simply...
hmiller1701
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Nov 21, 2008
1:36 am

Andy, I've heard of two sites where the converter converted 90% of the code succesfully! Greets, Ramon de Wit Mage – Magic Engineering Postbus 36170 1020 MD...
Ramon de Wit
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Nov 21, 2008
9:43 am

I seem to have the same results. The log seems to be totally random, listing new unneeded handlers for controls that don't exist in the wrong task and program....
Steven Burrows
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Nov 21, 2008
9:48 am

The release notes ammused me... "The Record Main Converter utility locates *ALL* of the Record Main based logic of a uniPaaS application and automatically and...
Rosie Coller
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Nov 21, 2008
6:12 pm

I think I'm leaning the same way at this point. Based on what I've seen so far, I don't trust the converter. Luckily it was a major screw-up, so it was easy...
ajreynolds1
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Nov 21, 2008
7:07 pm

I've noticed when taking a quick look at it that you can range the program numbers it acts on... so you could do one program at a time. If that is true I may...
Rosie Coller
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Nov 21, 2008
7:12 pm

You can specify a range. Also, when you run it you can either overwrite your project or create a new project. Be sure to read the manual, it tells how the...
ajreynolds1
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Nov 21, 2008
8:07 pm

You know how this sounds to me? Like when MSE first introduced the V9 to V10 converter. This is just not something you can expect to come perfect the first...
Omar Lamin
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Nov 21, 2008
11:05 pm

Omar, Thanks for giving me credit for exposing that this is a significant issue for anyone with a lot of RM code. It is true that the more complex/costly the...
Erik Hagendijk
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Nov 22, 2008
4:13 am

I have re-run it with the "create control names" option set, and it now at least creates some code. The log is still garbage, saying (incorrectly) that it has...
Steven Burrows
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Nov 23, 2008
10:11 am

I agree that I would never expect 100%, and now I can see that you can choose selected programs I think it is worth a go on some of our programs. I have been...
Rosie Coller
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Nov 24, 2008
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... I'm not going to start a game of "Which Star Trek character are you?" but you always remind me of Scotty! Don't blame me if that becomes your new office...
Craig Martin
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Nov 22, 2008
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Scott me up Beamie ... screw up you ... might not be ... application this ... you?" ... place....
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Nov 22, 2008
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Hi All, Is there anybody who used RM Converter successfully? I mean, is it totally useless? Or does it fail only on specific occasions? Thanks, Mehmet ... ...
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