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#376 From: "lrn1986@..." <lrn1986@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: A few questions
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--- In magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com, Arne Babenhauserheide
<arne_bab@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Irn,
>
> > =3=
> > How to interpret these:
> >
> > both kt and xt are specified:
> > magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:blah&kt=foo+bar
>
> Search for the kt and download the results which fit the sha1 of the
xt.
That's stupid. Isn't it better to search for files that fit the sha1
of the xt (i'm assuming that underlying network supports searching by
hash)...and download it. No keywords.

#375 From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@...>
Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: A few questions
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Hi Irn,

Am Sonntag 04 Januar 2009 08:50:38 schrieb lrn1986@...:
> =1=
> Where are newer versions of magnet specs? I can't believe it's still
> v0.1 after six years

It's still at 0.1, and it's still stable :)

The specs haven't received any work for a long time, though.

> =2=
> Where are newer (than v2.2) versions of magma specs? I've seen
> references to v4.0

I've been working on v0.4 for some time which uses simple yaml (I learned
quite a bit about programming since I did the first specification), but I
didn't yet finish the new specs.

My work is on a reference implementation of a Python magma module:

- http://gnuticles.gnufu.net/pymagma/

If you have any questions about it, or if there's something you'd like me to
add, just ask :)

> =3=
> How to interpret these:
>
> both kt and xt are specified:
> magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:blah&kt=foo+bar

Search for the kt and download the results which fit the sha1 of the xt.

> both mt and xt are specified:
> magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:foo&mt=http://bar.org/baz.magma

That one is unclear to me, too. I'd download the manifest and the xt, since
both are simply described as actions.

> =4=
> Which of these are correct?
>
> .0 suffix. I'm assuming that .1 IS correct:
> magnet:?xt.0=urn:sha1:blah

To my understanding this should be the right one. There isn't any mentioning
on restrictions, though, so xt.foo could be valid as well.

Instead of two xt's, I'd just use two magnets, though.

> .foo suffix (are non-numeric suffices valid?):
> magnet:?xt.foo=urn:sha1:blah
>
> .number suffix for custom parameter:
> magnet:?x.myparam.1=blah

I never saw this one, so I'd avoid it.

> =5=
> Should a manifest topic (pointed by mt) be in magma format, or any
> format is permitted?

Since magnets precede any manifest implementation, any format should be valid.

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#374 From: "lrn1986@..." <lrn1986@...>
Date: Sun Jan 4, 2009 7:50 am
Subject: A few questions
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=1=
Where are newer versions of magnet specs? I can't believe it's still
v0.1 after six years


=2=
Where are newer (than v2.2) versions of magma specs? I've seen
references to v4.0


=3=
How to interpret these:

both kt and xt are specified:
magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:blah&kt=foo+bar

both mt and xt are specified:
magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:foo&mt=http://bar.org/baz.magma


=4=
Which of these are correct?

.0 suffix. I'm assuming that .1 IS correct:
magnet:?xt.0=urn:sha1:blah

.foo suffix (are non-numeric suffices valid?):
magnet:?xt.foo=urn:sha1:blah

.number suffix for custom parameter:
magnet:?x.myparam.1=blah

=5=
Should a manifest topic (pointed by mt) be in magma format, or any
format is permitted?

#373 From: Tom Higgy <higgy18jamjar@...>
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:09 am
Subject: Re: http2p2p - php based file indexer & magnet link creator
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Interesting script.

A while ago (around Feb) I wrote a script to do something similar. I
wrote it because I'm mirroring a few fairly large files (>200MB each and
growing weekly).

You can see a demo at http://osm.bandnet.org/planet/

The script itself is available at
http://svn.bandnet.org/labs/magdex/magdex.php (rename to index.php to use)

Basically my script reads the directory listing of the directory it is
stored in, ignores certain files ('.', '..', itself and its hash index
files). For each file it checks for the index file and if it's up to
date reads the hash and returns the magnet link. If the index file is
old or doesn't exist the file is hashed after the listing has been
returned and the result stored.

It also provides two links with the magnet: one to the file itself
direct from Apache or other webserver, the other to a script that stores
the IP and port of the downloader and returns IP+port combinations of
people who have downloaded the file previously.

I hope it'll be of use to someone to make more useful. Let me know if
you make use of it as I'd love to know where it's being used.

Cheers,

Tom.

mcrosoft2001 wrote:
>
> maybe somebody is interested in my latest script for the P2P community.
>
> HTTP2P2P - it allows you to host files on a regular webserver and make
> them available via magnet-links.
>
> it is a simple directory lister with hash-link generation. nothing more.
>
> checkitout here:
>
> http://www.http2p2p.dr.ag <http://www.http2p2p.dr.ag>
> or
> http://pipecheckphp.sourceforge.net/http2p2p/
> <http://pipecheckphp.sourceforge.net/http2p2p/>
>
>

#372 From: magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat May 19, 2007 8:24 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to magnet-uri
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the magnet-uri
group.

   File        : /http2p2p_v1.rar
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   Description : http2p2p_v1 - see www.HTTP2P2P.DR.AG for details

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/magnet-uri/files/http2p2p_v1.rar

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

mcrosoft2001 <mcrosoft2001@...>

#371 From: "mcrosoft2001" <mcrosoft2001@...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2007 8:22 pm
Subject: http2p2p - php based file indexer & magnet link creator
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maybe somebody is interested in my latest script for the P2P community.

HTTP2P2P - it allows you to host files on a regular webserver and make
them available via magnet-links.

it is a simple directory lister with hash-link generation. nothing more.

checkitout here:

http://www.http2p2p.dr.ag
or
http://pipecheckphp.sourceforge.net/http2p2p/ 

#370 From: "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <supercanadian@...>
Date: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: dynamic urls in magnets as as-parameter
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Hello Arne,

Depends on what language you are coding this in.

If you are using JavaScript, then use the escape() function.

If you are using PHP, then use the urlencode() function.

Etc.


Hope that helps.

See ya


On 7/18/06, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@...> wrote:
Hi,

How do I escape characters in a dynamic url which contains "?" and "&" so that
they dont break the magnet anymore? As of the currently published specs, I
don't see infos on that.

We just ran into this while using http-url as alt-locs/startup locs...

Best wishes,
Arne from the Phex Team ( http://phex.org )
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#369 From: Harold Feit <dreadwingknight@...>
Date: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: dynamic urls in magnets as as-parameter
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Have you tried the following yet?
& -> %26
? -> %3F

Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How do I escape characters in a dynamic url which contains "?" and "&" so that
> they dont break the magnet anymore? As of the currently published specs, I
> don't see infos on that.
>
> We just ran into this while using http-url as alt-locs/startup locs...
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne from the Phex Team ( http://phex.org )
>

#368 From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@...>
Date: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:51 pm
Subject: dynamic urls in magnets as as-parameter
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Hi,

How do I escape characters in a dynamic url which contains "?" and "&" so that
they dont break the magnet anymore? As of the currently published specs, I
don't see infos on that.

We just ran into this while using http-url as alt-locs/startup locs...

Best wishes,
Arne from the Phex Team ( http://phex.org )
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#367 From: "neomaster247" <steven.hystad@...>
Date: Sat May 20, 2006 3:40 am
Subject: Official problem statement for xmlmagnet
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Sorry it took me so long, I have been doing other things like trying
to make a living.
I have written up a problem statement for xml magnet in an attempt to
clarify the goals for the project overall.
I have already thought up a few ways to salve part of the problem and
may soon make a few posts to talk about them with coders and the users
that they would affect after I do some more research.

Once there is a consensus on how to solve the major issues I'll write
the draft and do some testing and hope it'll be worthy of an official
RFC, or do the process over again.

http://1337ware.kicks-ass.net/dev/articles/xml-magnet-problem-statement.txt

The solution I'm working on includes a new way to locate applications
that can resolve magnet URIs and then what will likely be  xml/soap
communication over tcp http. I am currently in the middle of
researching 2 local host centric and 2 local network centric ways to
locate applications that can resolve magnet URIs and I have an idea
for an xml namespace that can carry information about entities
described by magnet URIs resolve magnet hyperlink content and be
extensible to allow many different kinds of user interfaces.

#366 From: "neomaster247" <steven.hystad@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: I have tested xml magnet draft one and am ready to start working on draft tw
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I installed LimeWire and checked it's method of receiving magnet
links. It adds itself to the registry, like Shareaza, but LimeWire
doesn't use DDE, just command line. This also means that at current
LimeWire and Shareaza have no communication pipe. Having no
communication pipe means that LimeWire and Shareaza are out of the
scope of xml magnet. They are only considered since the search app
would have to be able to include options from non http bound
applications to really be useful.

I am also concerned about the amount of overhead when using locally
bound http services as a pipe. I think it might be faster to pass
either a magnet link or file path pointing at a MAGMA file along with
a callback command to the handlers. When the handler receives the
magnet link and callback command in it's command line/DDE it would
parse the magnet link to determine what it can do with it and write
the response to a temporary file, then use the callback command to
tell the search app where the response is. The handler could add the
command/DDE information to the registry if/when it supports that.

--- In magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Aleksandersen <pusulv@g...>
wrote:
>
> Yhea,
>
> You should support LimeWire!
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>
>
> On 2006-01-22 , at 05:06, Arne Bab. wrote:
>
> > This is just a litle add on...
> >
> > You should test your draft against LimeWire ( http://
> > www.limewire.com /.org), I think, because that is the major player
> > in the Gnutella Network (Even though I for my part use Phex...).
> >
> > That aside it sounds quite promising, even though I'm not yet into
> > xml-websites.
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Arne
>

#365 From: Daniel Aleksandersen <pusulv@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: I have tested xml magnet draft one and am ready to start working on draft two.
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Yhea,

You should support LimeWire!
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On 2006-01-22 , at 05:06, Arne Bab. wrote:

> This is just a litle add on...
>
> You should test your draft against LimeWire ( http://
> www.limewire.com /.org), I think, because that is the major player
> in the Gnutella Network (Even though I for my part use Phex...).
>
> That aside it sounds quite promising, even though I'm not yet into
> xml-websites.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Arne

#364 From: "Arne Bab." <arne_bab@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:06 am
Subject: Re: I have tested xml magnet draft one and am ready to start working on draft two.
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This is just a litle add on...

You should test your draft against LimeWire ( http://
www.limewire.com /.org), I think, because that is the major player in
the Gnutella Network (Even though I for my part use Phex...).

That aside it sounds quite promising, even though I'm not yet into
xml-websites.

Best Wishes,
Arne

#363 From: "neomaster247" <steven.hystad@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:10 pm
Subject: I have tested xml magnet draft one and am ready to start working on draft two.
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Sorry it took so long. I had to develop an HTTP 1.1 compliant web
server to test the extending features that draft one placed on the
HTTP bound resource locations described in the magnet specification.
(i.e. http://127.0.0.1:451xx/magnet10/x-xmlmagnet.xml)

In testing I used 3 services: Azureus, Shareaza, and a test service I
made to test the xml specific features; I also tested 2 client
approaches: smart client (a local application to search for and
compile magnet information), and web client (a web page on a supposed
content providers web site). In testing the web client I ran into
problems trying to obtain the xml information across domain
boundaries; IE allowed enough access to make the web client feasible,
but Firefox gave an access denied in all attempts.  In testing the
smart client approach I found little that I couldn't implement, but I
noticed limitations and ambiguities in the protocol (my bad).

The web client worked perfectly with Internet Explorer. In fact I see
no problem in writing a script that would load and parse the xml from
each service and writing the content of the htmlbucket element to the
page and using old JavaScript method as a backup. Firefox would always
give an access denied when trying to fetch the xml, but of course
using JavaScript as a back up will be able to cover that.  However,
not all applications that can handle magnet links will bind a web
server to the 45100-45199 range. Shareaza attempts to handle magnet
links directly, setting it's DDE name as a verb for the "magnet" URI
scheme in the registry. DDE can not be accessed by a web page.

I have been very successful in writing the smart client. The smart
client would first check the /magnet10/canhandle.img resource to get
three of the necessary pieces of information: is there a web server
bound to this port, can this server handle this link, and what is this
servers icon. For each service that did return an icon the smart
client then attempted to read the xml information. The display
information was then compiled listing the service's icon and name and
each of the entities' identifiers and the options for each entity if
xml information was available. The information was then displayed in a
window.

Example:
Azureus' icon was shown and named as `Unnamed' since no xml
information is available.
The test service's icon was shown on the next line followed by it's
name. The next lines contained a list of information about the topics
requested which included the exact topic hash or display name and each
option that the user could choose.

Shareaza could not be found using this same method since it attempts
to handle magnet links directly, but that doesn't mean it can't be
added to the list. I had the idea of having the search application
read additional options from a file. The file would have described
regular expressions to match against arguments of the magnet link,
display information for the option and a simple action or command to
execute. The only problem was that Shareaza would not take the magnet
link from command line but only from DDE. I do not know how to trigger
DDE with out the help of explorer in the form of a URI, which is no
help since it would be the search application that directly handles
the magnet links, not Shareaza.

The options that provided simple actions alone proved to provide a
great deal of interactivity since any form of URI was allowed. A
service could return several more magnet links, web links, or even
link to an IRC chat room amongst many more things.
I did not actually test the xml callback action but I am sure that it
should work since I tested the option search using both the query
string and by use of a message body.

Now before I write up draft specification two I would like to ask for
comments on a few key areas.

Search locations:
I would like more information on searching for applications that can
handle magnet links other than by searching ports 45100-45199 or by
reading a settings file. Anything like information that the
application would add to the registry or application files to check for.

Requesting xml information:
I can conceive three methods of request. The first one is by sending a
single string. This string is simply either the query string of the
magnet link or the entire URI depending on how it's being passed. The
second would be a true xml RPC. The RPC would have to be able to send
a request body, containing a SOAP message who's body should be xml.
The third would be a simple non SOAP request body.

Draft one simply declared that where both a query sting and a request
body could be sent that the string should always be sent as a backup
and the request body was optional. Additionally, when the request body
was sent it was simply a subset of the xml that would be returned in
the response.
I would like to change the request body into either simply a MAGMA
entity or a fully formed SOAP message. The use of a MAGMA entity would
greatly simplify the act of parsing the request body for the service.
The alternative, sending a SOAP message, would require that the body
remain xml formatted but would give the advantage of far greater
extensibility than what was allowed by draft one.
I would also like to note that preserving xml as being the format for
the request body would require several changes from draft one. Draft
one declared that xt should be mapped to the exact topic element, kt
should be mapped to the keyword topic element, mt should be mapped to
the manifest topic element, and dn should be mapped to the display
name element. This was a very limited list and provided no method of
adding application specific arguments. Draft two will include a way to
list arguments of any name either by sending the request body as MAGMA
or by declaring a more generic element with an attribute to define
what the argument name is.

Returning an xml response:
Draft one had a poor definition on how to describe each option
returned. No real formatting methods were officially declared, and the
descriptions for use in web clients was separated from the
descriptions for use in smart clients. I want to restructure the
response body using XHTML modules on top of an xml magnet structure
module. That is to say the response body will resemble an XHTML 1.1
document. The search client would parse out the xml magnet structure
and compile the documents into a single document. Then, the smart
client would render the resulting document like a normal XHTML 1.1
document but also giving any attention to inline elements that may be
declared by xml magnet or by external xml namespaces that the client
just so happens to be compliant with. I would like comments on what
XHTML modules should be implemented, on the base structure of the xml
magnet module, and on any inline elements that could be used in an xml
magnet + XHTML document.

XHTML modules that may be implemented:
Basic forms
Basic tables
Bi-directional text
Hypertext
Image
List
Style attribute
Text

This is not a definite list. I'm asking for comments on this list.

Some consideration on how to implement CSS will be necessary. The
style attribute can be placed in any visual element and it's effect is
limited to that element, but the style element must be placed in an
html head element and effects the entire document. Perhaps the html
style element could simply be mirrored as a style element in a non
visual part of the base magnet structure. The method of applying the
style sheet information would be application dependant, but the style
sheet of one particular response must only be applied to the visual
elements.

Should the xml callback be obsolete?
If forms were to be implemented it could be possible to use a form to
do most of what the xml callback of draft one was designed to do (I.e.
send a specified query back to a specific magnet handling
application). However, the xml callback was meant to retrieve
additional options. If you were to activate an option that used the
callback method the client could have had the option of simply
replacing the callback option with the options given in the response
to the callback. This exact behavior could be implemented using a
magnet specific element. Example: You could click on a hyperlink or
submit a form and the response information could be automatically
added to an element who's ID matches a magnet specific attribute in
the link or form.

#362 From: "Arne Bab." <arne_bab@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: How to make Manget URI links?
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Just check it over here:

http://basis.gnufu.net/gnufu/index.php/MagnetMakingGuide?
PHPSESSID=60ac942d118f250b7401f7f3ac248d5d

Best wishes,
Arne

Am 05.01.2006 um 17:12 Uhr schrieb Todd Pederzani:

> On 1/5/06, Daniel <pusulv@...> wrote:
> I can't use this. I'm on a Mac. The .exe file extension is a Windows
> fileformat. Any Mac alternates?
>
> I don't use a mac currently, the only one I own is unplugged in a
> corner of my apartment.  Bitzi's Bitcollider [1] compiles on OS X
> version (I'm guessing you're not on OS9).  It certainly calculates
> all of the proper hashes, though its goal is meta-information
> submission to bitzi.com, not magnet generation.
>
> [1] http://bitzi.com/bitcollider/
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#361 From: Greg Bildson <gbildson@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need More Sources!
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Other clients are willing to generate network searches
for every magnet link.  LimeWire chose not to
automatically generate a search when you click on a
magnet link due to concerns about network overload.
It depends on sources being included.  We have felt
that a DHT is required to effectively handle these
types of lookups rather than a semi-broadcast network
search.

If you click on the "Find more sources" button, then
it will generate a network search.

Thanks
-greg

--- Daniel <pusulv@...> wrote:

> Well, thats probarly because there is now sources
> available?
>
> If people that post magnet links could add a
> alternate source, like on
> a web site like this:
>
> xs=http://fil.server.com/file.zip
>
> ...then people always would have a source. This does
> however don't
> always works with LimeWire and LimeWire says "Need
> more sources".
>
> --- In magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com, "titan.rain"
> <titan.rain@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all I just have a quick question that Google
> just cant seem to
> help with. I want
> > to use magnet links but every one I open with my
> Limewire Pro
> version 4.8.1 I never
> > get any sources! I'm on a broadband connection,
> I'm fully open to
> sharing (no limits
> > or anything) plenty of files shared.....its just
> none of them ever
> work. This has been
> > the case for the last 2 years that I have tried to
> use them. I know
> that sounds extreme
> > but I just mean periodically  I'll try one and get
> - you guessed it
> - Need More
> > Sources. I can run a search for the file and then
> the download will
> get sources...Any
> > suggestions?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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#360 From: Todd Pederzani <todd.pederzani@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: How to make Manget URI links?
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On 1/5/06, Daniel <pusulv@...> wrote:
I can't use this. I'm on a Mac. The .exe file extension is a Windows
fileformat. Any Mac alternates?

I don't use a mac currently, the only one I own is unplugged in a corner of my apartment.  Bitzi's Bitcollider [1] compiles on OS X version (I'm guessing you're not on OS9).  It certainly calculates all of the proper hashes, though its goal is meta-information submission to bitzi.com, not magnet generation.

[1] http://bitzi.com/bitcollider/

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#359 From: "Daniel" <pusulv@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: How to make Manget URI links?
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--- In magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com, Todd Pederzani
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>
> Daniel wrote:
>
> >It would be SUPER if it could run on FastTrack (from clients like
Kazaa Media Desktop) in addition to Gnutella.
> >
> >
>
> You could always take a look at the Kazaa Magnet CDK[1].  It will at
> least probably include the respective file hashes for the networks
> you're looking at.  I see they have a different product as well ([2]),
> maybe that's more what you need.
>
> [1] http://download.kazaa.com/tools/magnet_cdk.exe
> [2] http://www.magnetlink.org/download/Install_Magnet_Builder.exe
>
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I can't use this. I'm on a Mac. The .exe file extension is a Windows
fileformat. Any Mac alternates?

#358 From: Todd Pederzani <todd.pederzani@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: How to make Manget URI links?
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Daniel wrote:

>It would be SUPER if it could run on FastTrack (from clients like Kazaa Media
Desktop) in addition to Gnutella.
>
>

You could always take a look at the Kazaa Magnet CDK[1].  It will at
least probably include the respective file hashes for the networks
you're looking at.  I see they have a different product as well ([2]),
maybe that's more what you need.

[1] http://download.kazaa.com/tools/magnet_cdk.exe
[2] http://www.magnetlink.org/download/Install_Magnet_Builder.exe

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#357 From: "Daniel" <pusulv@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: How to make Manget URI links?
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--- In magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel" <pusulv@g...> wrote:
>
> I've asked before, but I'll ask again.
>
> Who can do I make the best and most compatible Magnet links?
>
> With compatible fallbacks URLs on one or more web server (xs and as),
> do I need more on that link than just the URL?
>
> Please state examples based upon links generated from LimeWire 4.9 (or
> newer).

And I almost forgot! It would be SUPER if it could run on FastTrack
(from clients like Kazaa Media Desktop) in addition to Gnutella
(LimeWire). LimeWire don't suplie the information needed for using the
link in Kazaa.

-great if I could make the links with Mac OS compatible software (like
LimeWire). Since I don't have regular access to a Windows computer.

#356 From: "Daniel" <pusulv@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 1:23 pm
Subject: How to make Manget URI links?
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I've asked before, but I'll ask again.

Who can do I make the best and most compatible Magnet links?

With compatible fallbacks URLs on one or more web server (xs and as),
do I need more on that link than just the URL?

Please state examples based upon links generated from LimeWire 4.9 (or
newer).

#355 From: "Daniel" <pusulv@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: Need More Sources!
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Well, thats probarly because there is now sources available?

If people that post magnet links could add a alternate source, like on
a web site like this:

xs=http://fil.server.com/file.zip

...then people always would have a source. This does however don't
always works with LimeWire and LimeWire says "Need more sources".

--- In magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com, "titan.rain" <titan.rain@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello all I just have a quick question that Google just cant seem to
help with. I want
> to use magnet links but every one I open with my Limewire Pro
version 4.8.1 I never
> get any sources! I'm on a broadband connection, I'm fully open to
sharing (no limits
> or anything) plenty of files shared.....its just none of them ever
work. This has been
> the case for the last 2 years that I have tried to use them. I know
that sounds extreme
> but I just mean periodically  I'll try one and get - you guessed it
- Need More
> Sources. I can run a search for the file and then the download will
get sources...Any
> suggestions?
>

#354 From: "titan.rain" <titan.rain@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 1:05 pm
Subject: Need More Sources!
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Hello all I just have a quick question that Google just cant seem to help with.
I want
to use magnet links but every one I open with my Limewire Pro version 4.8.1 I
never
get any sources! I'm on a broadband connection, I'm fully open to sharing (no
limits
or anything) plenty of files shared.....its just none of them ever work. This
has been
the case for the last 2 years that I have tried to use them. I know that sounds
extreme
but I just mean periodically  I'll try one and get - you guessed it - Need More
Sources. I can run a search for the file and then the download will get
sources...Any
suggestions?

#353 From: "neomaster247" <steven.hystad@...>
Date: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:24 am
Subject: XML because JavaScript is... well...
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JavaScript is nice for web browsers, but is useless for any other type of application. I wrote a draft specification for an XML namespace and method of imlementation. http://1337ware.kicks-ass.net/dev/articles/ns-magnet.html If you know anything about xml and web services feel free to take a look. While JavaScript has all the advantages and disadvantages of DHTML, the draft xml namespace can let you use XHTML to place into a web page. XML can also be displayed directly in modern web browsers using XSL.
I hope you like it and I'm waiting for some briliant comments.

#352 From: "Arne Bab." <arne_bab@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: First anonymous gnutlla client with magnet links ?
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Hi closedshop,

Give it some time. A bad program is in that case worse than no
program, I think (because it wouldn't stick).

But I'm sure impatient, too :)

@Todd: Thanks for keeping us on topic.

Best Wishes,
Arne


Am 28.10.2005 um 14:48 Uhr schrieb closedshop@...:

> Hi arne and all,
>
> thanks, that is good to hear.
> so i2phex can handle magnet links on websites ?
> Is it possible to klick the magnet or do I have to copy and paste
> it into
> i2phex ?
>
> Good to hear, that i2phex and phex will merge.
> This is as well my approach, that gregor is again owner of the
> projekt.
>
> so this means ONE installer for both, i2phex and phex.
>
> I only have the questn, if both modi will be able to be run at the
> same time
> (hybrid) or if both launches of the application are seperate.
>
> so either on ip basis or on i2p (so i2phex or phex).
>
> I would not recommend to make a hybrid version. better both modi in
> one app
> seperated.
>
>
> Further, I would recomend to integrate the i2p exe installer a well
> in phex.
>
> So if I install phex, I install as well i2p.
>
> this is the main thing, that the phex installer will be 10 MB big.
> Hope we get it soon.
>
> To prepare the main market entry of the 10 MB phex installer,
> gregor should
> create an download.com accout for free (yes it is free).
>
> Or Arne, could you manage this ? or is phex already at download.com ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>> Von: "Arne Bab." <arne_bab@...>
>> An: magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com
>> Betreff: Re: [magnet-uri] First anonymous gnutlla client with
>> magnet links
>> ?
>> Datum: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:13:37 +0200
>>
>> Sure: Just like the regular Phex ( http://phex.org ) :)
>>
>> I helped getting magnet into Phex, so I have a bit of background
>> on it.
>>
>> At the moment i2Phex and Phex are getting merged, a process which
>> will assumedly take a few months (says the dev), and then Phex will
>> be able to connect anonymously to cclients in the i2p network (an
>> anonymous network-layer).
>>
>> Besides: Phex can do Magma as well as PodCasts and RSS-Feeds
>> containing magnets.
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Arne
>>
>>
>> Am 27.10.2005 um 23:29 Uhr schrieb closedshop@...:
>>
>>
>>> hi
>>>
>>> I downloaded and installed the fully anonymous gnutella client
>>>
>>> http://www.i2phex.tk
>>>
>>>
>>> an I am wodering how it is handling magnet uri links ?
>>>
>>> any knowledge here?
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#351 From: Todd Pederzani <todd.pederzani@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: First anonymous gnutlla client with magnet links ?
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closedshop@... wrote:

>thanks, that is good to hear.
>so i2phex can handle magnet links on websites ?
>Is it possible to klick the magnet or do I have to copy and paste it into
>i2phex ?
>
>
If it is like any other program that associates itself with a link, you
click on it, and if your browser supports it (I hear Opera, at least, is
funny about user-defined links), the application opens.


>this is the main thing, that the phex installer will be 10 MB big.
>Hope we get it soon.
>
>To prepare the main market entry of the 10 MB phex installer, gregor should
>create an download.com accout for free (yes it is free).
>
>Or Arne, could you manage this ? or is phex already at download.com ?
>
>
Phex seems to be hosting binaries at sourceforge, which is top-notch
especially when it comes to hosting files.  There are no bandwidth or
disk concerns there.  (Though trying to minimize the installer size
[lzma compression in a NSIS installer, perhaps] is always considerate.)


If you're going to talk more about phex, you might want to use private
email to the developer, or a more appropriate list. :)

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#350 From: closedshop@...
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: First anonymous gnutlla client with magnet links ?
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Hi arne and all,

thanks, that is good to hear.
so i2phex can handle magnet links on websites ?
Is it possible to klick the magnet or do I have to copy and paste it into
i2phex ?

Good to hear, that i2phex and phex will merge.
This is as well my approach, that gregor is again owner of the projekt.

so this means ONE installer for both, i2phex and phex.

I only have the questn, if both modi will be able to be run at the same time
(hybrid) or if both launches of the application are seperate.

so either on ip basis or on i2p (so i2phex or phex).

I would not recommend to make a hybrid version. better both modi in one app
seperated.


Further, I would recomend to integrate the i2p exe installer a well in phex.

So if I install phex, I install as well i2p.

this is the main thing, that the phex installer will be 10 MB big.
Hope we get it soon.

To prepare the main market entry of the 10 MB phex installer, gregor should
create an download.com accout for free (yes it is free).

Or Arne, could you manage this ? or is phex already at download.com ?

Thanks






> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: "Arne Bab." <arne_bab@...>
> An: magnet-uri@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [magnet-uri] First anonymous gnutlla client with magnet links
> ?
> Datum: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:13:37 +0200
>
> Sure: Just like the regular Phex ( http://phex.org ) :)
>
> I helped getting magnet into Phex, so I have a bit of background on it.
>
> At the moment i2Phex and Phex are getting merged, a process which
> will assumedly take a few months (says the dev), and then Phex will
> be able to connect anonymously to cclients in the i2p network (an
> anonymous network-layer).
>
> Besides: Phex can do Magma as well as PodCasts and RSS-Feeds
> containing magnets.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Arne
>
>
> Am 27.10.2005 um 23:29 Uhr schrieb closedshop@...:
>
> > hi
> >
> > I downloaded and installed the fully anonymous gnutella client
> >
> > http://www.i2phex.tk
> >
> >
> > an I am wodering how it is handling magnet uri links ?
> >
> > any knowledge here?
> >
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#349 From: "Arne Bab." <arne_bab@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:13 am
Subject: Re: First anonymous gnutlla client with magnet links ?
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Sure: Just like the regular Phex ( http://phex.org ) :)

I helped getting magnet into Phex, so I have a bit of background on it.

At the moment i2Phex and Phex are getting merged, a process which
will assumedly take a few months (says the dev), and then Phex will
be able to connect anonymously to cclients in the i2p network (an
anonymous network-layer).

Besides: Phex can do Magma as well as PodCasts and RSS-Feeds
containing magnets.

Best Wishes,
Arne


Am 27.10.2005 um 23:29 Uhr schrieb closedshop@...:

> hi
>
> I downloaded and installed the fully anonymous gnutella client
>
> http://www.i2phex.tk
>
>
> an I am wodering how it is handling magnet uri links ?
>
> any knowledge here?
>
> --
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>
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> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ~->
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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#348 From: closedshop@...
Date: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:29 pm
Subject: First anonymous gnutlla client with magnet links ?
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hi

I downloaded and installed the fully anonymous gnutella client

http://www.i2phex.tk


an I am wodering how it is handling magnet uri links ?

any knowledge here?

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#347 From: "fortkentgent" <fortkentgent@...>
Date: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:39 am
Subject: Magnets with IPB
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Does anyone know how to go about making magnets work with Invision
Power Board 2? I can't find info anywhere and unfortunately their
community has been rather silent on the subject. Please someone...

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