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#11601 From: "Brett" <dingo_shadow@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:59 am
Subject: Marine depth range.
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Polygon type 0x305
Marine=Y
Depthunit=M
Depth=5.0

These settings give me "5.0 m max depth"

I need to get "5.0 m - 10 m"
does anyone know what setting to enter to get this depthrange to display?

#11602 From: "Stan" <gps_mapper@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:25 am
Subject: Time restrictions
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Hello All,

As you probably know - Garmin format allows to define restrictions which are
valid only on certain days / hours -

- I have a question - as I know the format - but so far I found NO device which
is handling this information. Is there anybody who found that such feature is
handled by any of the device? (using of course Garmin original maps)?

If that would be confirmed - I can add handling for that.

Thanks,
Stan

#11603 From: "guido_p_schmidt" <guido@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Time restrictions
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The city navigator has is in the map and mapsource is handling with it.

Device are only using seasonal closure, like zumo, but I can't relate this to
the map.

on
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=velp,+nederland&sll=\
37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.534108,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Velp,+Rheden,+Geld\
erland,+Nederland&ll=52.030053,6.050205&spn=0.026192,0.077162&z=14 there is a
part that has the restrictions.

will do some testing tomorrow

Guido

--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Stan" <gps_mapper@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> As you probably know - Garmin format allows to define restrictions which are
valid only on certain days / hours -
>
> - I have a question - as I know the format - but so far I found NO device
which is handling this information. Is there anybody who found that such feature
is handled by any of the device? (using of course Garmin original maps)?
>
> If that would be confirmed - I can add handling for that.
>
> Thanks,
> Stan
>

#11604 From: "Rafael F. Aguilar H.-" <hoeger@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] Time restrictions
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Salud./

GPSmap 60CSx with CityNav?



On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Stan <gps_mapper@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hello All,
>
> As you probably know - Garmin format allows to define restrictions which
> are valid only on certain days / hours -
>
> - I have a question - as I know the format - but so far I found NO device
> which is handling this information. Is there anybody who found that such
> feature is handled by any of the device? (using of course Garmin original
> maps)?
>
> If that would be confirmed - I can add handling for that.
>
> Thanks,
> Stan
>
>
>



--
Siempre

Rafael F. Aguilar H.
______________________________________________
Diagonal geparkt in einem parallelen Universum


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#11606 From: "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:43 pm
Subject: How to get the central line
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Hi,

I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two lines of its
borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my Garmin maps... Is
there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper, mapedit or any other?

Thanks

#11607 From: Samson Luk <samsonluk@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:14 am
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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I understand road center line data should be obtained from GIS provider and
in my country the government charging sky high for the data.  BTW, why is
that important for this particular kinf of data on map making?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, dasorsan <dasorsan@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two lines of
> its borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my Garmin
> maps... Is there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper, mapedit or
> some other?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#11608 From: "Rafael F. Aguilar H.-" <hoeger@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:02 am
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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Sounds like navigable rivers map?

-Rafael

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Samson Luk <samsonluk@...> wrote:

>
>
> I understand road center line data should be obtained from GIS provider and
> in my country the government charging sky high for the data. BTW, why is
> that important for this particular kinf of data on map making?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, dasorsan
<dasorsan@...<dasorsan%40yahoo.es>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two lines
> of
> > its borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my Garmin
> > maps... Is there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper, mapedit
> or
> > some other?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Siempre

Rafael F. Aguilar H.
______________________________________________
Diagonal geparkt in einem parallelen Universum
http://hoeger.com.ve/ventopo


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#11609 From: "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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Not navigable rivers but roads. I think that,apart from allowing routing, a
one-line road allows for easy viewing and representing in GPS, rather than
two-lines road. In the case of rivers, i could create an area feature from both
sides lines if the river is wide enough, but when it is narrow,i prefer just one
line and set the line width to an appropiate value.

I know there's no an automatically way to do this with Globalmapper or Mapedit,
but maybe someone knows some procedure to do it...

Thanks for listening...

--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Rafael F. Aguilar H.-" <hoeger@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds like navigable rivers map?
>
> -Rafael
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Samson Luk <samsonluk@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I understand road center line data should be obtained from GIS provider and
> > in my country the government charging sky high for the data. BTW, why is
> > that important for this particular kinf of data on map making?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, dasorsan <dasorsan@...<dasorsan%40yahoo.es>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two lines
> > of
> > > its borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my Garmin
> > > maps... Is there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper, mapedit
> > or
> > > some other?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Siempre
>
> Rafael F. Aguilar H.
> ______________________________________________
> Diagonal geparkt in einem parallelen Universum
> http://hoeger.com.ve/ventopo
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#11610 From: "Gary Turner" <g.turner@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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I know how I would do it - but I have the advantage of being able to program up
what I want...

What format are the lines in? Is each line a separate line? Or is it a long thin
polygon? Or are they 'joined' somehow in the data? e.g. with some common
attribute.
Converting two lines to one line would be relatively simple to compute if it
were a polygon, or the pair of lines were somehow related or linked together.
Or alternatively if there were relatively few lines, it might be feasible to
'tag' the lines as a pair.

What format is the base data in?

Is this project commercial/open/personal? The only reason I ask is that money or
community-mindedness might inspire me to help. ;^)

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: dasorsan
   To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:20 AM
   Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line



   Not navigable rivers but roads. I think that,apart from allowing routing, a
one-line road allows for easy viewing and representing in GPS, rather than
two-lines road. In the case of rivers, i could create an area feature from both
sides lines if the river is wide enough, but when it is narrow,i prefer just one
line and set the line width to an appropiate value.

   I know there's no an automatically way to do this with Globalmapper or
Mapedit, but maybe someone knows some procedure to do it...

   Thanks for listening...

   --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Rafael F. Aguilar H.-" <hoeger@...>
wrote:
   >
   > Sounds like navigable rivers map?
   >
   > -Rafael
   >
   > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Samson Luk <samsonluk@...> wrote:
   >
   > >
   > >
   > > I understand road center line data should be obtained from GIS provider
and
   > > in my country the government charging sky high for the data. BTW, why is
   > > that important for this particular kinf of data on map making?
   > >
   > >
   > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, dasorsan
<dasorsan@...<dasorsan%40yahoo.es>>
   > > wrote:
   > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > Hi,
   > > >
   > > > I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two lines
   > > of
   > > > its borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my Garmin
   > > > maps... Is there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper, mapedit
   > > or
   > > > some other?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > >
   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   > >
   > >
   > >
   >
   >
   >
   > --
   > Siempre
   >
   > Rafael F. Aguilar H.
   > ______________________________________________
   > Diagonal geparkt in einem parallelen Universum
   > http://hoeger.com.ve/ventopo
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#11611 From: "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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So its seem not to be an easy job.Anyway, here you got an example of the data if
you want to take a look:

http://sitar.aragon.es/DescargasCarto/Welcome.do

Select for example:  HOJA 211 - SUBHOJA 23 - Ver datos - and download:

"Vias de comunicación" --> roads shapefiles
"Hidrografía" --> river shapefiles

Actually, this isnt even a project, just for making my personal maps, although i
share all of them for the comunity at http://dasorsan.blogspot.es/

Regards and thanks!


--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Turner" <g.turner@...> wrote:
>
> I know how I would do it - but I have the advantage of being able to program
up what I want...
>
> What format are the lines in? Is each line a separate line? Or is it a long
thin polygon? Or are they 'joined' somehow in the data? e.g. with some common
attribute.
> Converting two lines to one line would be relatively simple to compute if it
were a polygon, or the pair of lines were somehow related or linked together.
> Or alternatively if there were relatively few lines, it might be feasible to
'tag' the lines as a pair.
>
> What format is the base data in?
>
> Is this project commercial/open/personal? The only reason I ask is that money
or community-mindedness might inspire me to help. ;^)
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: dasorsan
>   To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:20 AM
>   Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
>
>
>
>   Not navigable rivers but roads. I think that,apart from allowing routing, a
one-line road allows for easy viewing and representing in GPS, rather than
two-lines road. In the case of rivers, i could create an area feature from both
sides lines if the river is wide enough, but when it is narrow,i prefer just one
line and set the line width to an appropiate value.
>
>   I know there's no an automatically way to do this with Globalmapper or
Mapedit, but maybe someone knows some procedure to do it...
>
>   Thanks for listening...
>
>   --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Rafael F. Aguilar H.-" <hoeger@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Sounds like navigable rivers map?
>   >
>   > -Rafael
>   >
>   > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Samson Luk <samsonluk@> wrote:
>   >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > I understand road center line data should be obtained from GIS provider
and
>   > > in my country the government charging sky high for the data. BTW, why is
>   > > that important for this particular kinf of data on map making?
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, dasorsan
<dasorsan@<dasorsan%40yahoo.es>>
>   > > wrote:
>   > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > Hi,
>   > > >
>   > > > I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two
lines
>   > > of
>   > > > its borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my
Garmin
>   > > > maps... Is there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper,
mapedit
>   > > or
>   > > > some other?
>   > > >
>   > > > Thanks
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > --
>   > Siempre
>   >
>   > Rafael F. Aguilar H.
>   > ______________________________________________
>   > Diagonal geparkt in einem parallelen Universum
>   > http://hoeger.com.ve/ventopo
>   >
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#11612 From: "Gary Turner" <g.turner@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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Ack! That's worse than I thought! What a mess. The roads don't even have names.
There isn't even a 1:1 correspondence between one side of a road and another -
as in one road might have one line on one side, and two separate lines on the
other side - randomly broken at some point.
I think that your only option is going to be drawing down the middle yourself...

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: dasorsan
   To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:58 AM
   Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line



   So its seem not to be an easy job.Anyway, here you got an example of the data
if you want to take a look:

   http://sitar.aragon.es/DescargasCarto/Welcome.do

   Select for example: HOJA 211 - SUBHOJA 23 - Ver datos - and download:

   "Vias de comunicación" --> roads shapefiles
   "Hidrografía" --> river shapefiles

   Actually, this isnt even a project, just for making my personal maps, although
i share all of them for the comunity at http://dasorsan.blogspot.es/

   Regards and thanks!

   --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Turner" <g.turner@...> wrote:
   >
   > I know how I would do it - but I have the advantage of being able to program
up what I want...
   >
   > What format are the lines in? Is each line a separate line? Or is it a long
thin polygon? Or are they 'joined' somehow in the data? e.g. with some common
attribute.
   > Converting two lines to one line would be relatively simple to compute if it
were a polygon, or the pair of lines were somehow related or linked together.
   > Or alternatively if there were relatively few lines, it might be feasible to
'tag' the lines as a pair.
   >
   > What format is the base data in?
   >
   > Is this project commercial/open/personal? The only reason I ask is that
money or community-mindedness might inspire me to help. ;^)
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: dasorsan
   > To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:20 AM
   > Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
   >
   >
   >
   > Not navigable rivers but roads. I think that,apart from allowing routing, a
one-line road allows for easy viewing and representing in GPS, rather than
two-lines road. In the case of rivers, i could create an area feature from both
sides lines if the river is wide enough, but when it is narrow,i prefer just one
line and set the line width to an appropiate value.
   >
   > I know there's no an automatically way to do this with Globalmapper or
Mapedit, but maybe someone knows some procedure to do it...
   >
   > Thanks for listening...
   >
   > --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Rafael F. Aguilar H.-" <hoeger@> wrote:
   > >
   > > Sounds like navigable rivers map?
   > >
   > > -Rafael
   > >
   > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Samson Luk <samsonluk@> wrote:
   > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > I understand road center line data should be obtained from GIS provider
and
   > > > in my country the government charging sky high for the data. BTW, why is
   > > > that important for this particular kinf of data on map making?
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, dasorsan
<dasorsan@<dasorsan%40yahoo.es>>
   > > > wrote:
   > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > Hi,
   > > > >
   > > > > I've some map data in wich roads and rivers are built with the two
lines
   > > > of
   > > > > its borders. Id like to get the central line from them to make my
Garmin
   > > > > maps... Is there any way to do it with software as globalmmaper,
mapedit
   > > > or
   > > > > some other?
   > > > >
   > > > > Thanks
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > --
   > > Siempre
   > >
   > > Rafael F. Aguilar H.
   > > ______________________________________________
   > > Diagonal geparkt in einem parallelen Universum
   > > http://hoeger.com.ve/ventopo
   > >
   > >
   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   > >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#11613 From: GSV Three Minds in a Can <GSV@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] How to get a central line
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Bitstring <00818161C9764A3C9CF4A22C4B1BBAAF@garys>, from the wonderful
person Gary Turner <g.turner@...> said
>Ack! That's worse than I thought! What a mess. The roads don't even have names.
>There isn't even a 1:1 correspondence between one side of a road and
>another - as in one road might have one line on one side, and two
>separate lines on the other side - randomly broken at some point.
>I think that your only option is going to be drawing down the middle
>yourself...

Faced with that I think I'd use gpsmapedit, turn on the google earth
(satellite photos) overlay, and just draw them in by hand from the
get-go.

--
GSV   Three Minds in a Can
16,110 Km walked. 2,937 Km PROWs surveyed. 53.1% complete.

#11614 From: "Richard" <rwsmith123@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: How to get a central line
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You could try topofusion. It has a function to average tracklogs. You could
import the roads as tracks and then have topofusion average them out.

--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, GSV Three Minds in a Can <GSV@...> wrote:
>
> Bitstring <00818161C9764A3C9CF4A22C4B1BBAAF@garys>, from the wonderful
> person Gary Turner <g.turner@...> said
> >Ack! That's worse than I thought! What a mess. The roads don't even have
names.
> >There isn't even a 1:1 correspondence between one side of a road and
> >another - as in one road might have one line on one side, and two
> >separate lines on the other side - randomly broken at some point.
> >I think that your only option is going to be drawing down the middle
> >yourself...
>
> Faced with that I think I'd use gpsmapedit, turn on the google earth
> (satellite photos) overlay, and just draw them in by hand from the
> get-go.
>
> --
> GSV   Three Minds in a Can
> 16,110 Km walked. 2,937 Km PROWs surveyed. 53.1% complete.
>

#11616 From: "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: raster + dem ?
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Does anyone know if exist any way to embed dem data to a raster map and convert
it into some garmin format?

Thanks

#11617 From: "puntoazul_dg" <puntoazul_dg@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:15 am
Subject: custom TYP lines rendering too thick
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Hi

Does anybody know how to fix the problem with custom typ lines that render too
thick yin zoom levels that are not so close? (meaning not overzoom)

I am working with custom typ files created with the online editor for gamin tyoe
files http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi and everything is perfect but
the resulting custom typ file for lines seams to work a litle diferent than the
original typ that mapedit uses for example a mayor hiway in mapedit seems thick
in an overzoom but when you zoom out the line seems to get thiner and that look
great because the map looks cleaner but with custom typ lines the line is
allways 1 pixel or 2 pixels or 3 or whatever you choosed but that does not look
good when you zoom out on the map because they look too thick, so my guess is
that original typ lines work diferent on diferent zoom levels...  so the
question is: does anybody know how to solve this?

thanks in advance

Leo

#11618 From: Gary Turner <g.turner@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:24 am
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] custom TYP lines rendering too thick
g_turner_nz
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I think (if I understand correctly) that you are making an assumption - that
there is a 'defaut' typ.
There isn't. The device is programmed to display items in some way. It would
appear that this 'way' does include displaying things differently at different
zoom levels. Sometimes that's good. Sometimes it is bad (I think that dirt roads
get MORE prominent as you zoom out ).

I think that when you override that default display with a typ file, what you
specify in the typ file is used at all zoom levels. I think that there is no way
to specify different displays at different zoom levels.

All this is IMO. Feel free to correct. ;^)

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: puntoazul_dg
   To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:15 PM
   Subject: [ GPS Maps ] custom TYP lines rendering too thick



   Hi

   Does anybody know how to fix the problem with custom typ lines that render too
thick yin zoom levels that are not so close? (meaning not overzoom)

   I am working with custom typ files created with the online editor for gamin
tyoe files http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi and everything is perfect
but the resulting custom typ file for lines seams to work a litle diferent than
the original typ that mapedit uses for example a mayor hiway in mapedit seems
thick in an overzoom but when you zoom out the line seems to get thiner and that
look great because the map looks cleaner but with custom typ lines the line is
allways 1 pixel or 2 pixels or 3 or whatever you choosed but that does not look
good when you zoom out on the map because they look too thick, so my guess is
that original typ lines work diferent on diferent zoom levels... so the question
is: does anybody know how to solve this?

   thanks in advance

   Leo





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#11620 From: "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:29 am
Subject: Re: raster + dem ?
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Like GB Discoverer maps...

http://www.garmingbdiscoverer.co.uk/


--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know if exist any way to embed dem data to a raster map and
convert it into some garmin format?
>
> Thanks
>

#11621 From: "Gary Turner" <g.turner@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:29 am
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] Re: raster + dem ?
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(a) If that's what you wanted, why didn't you say?
(b) AFAICS there's no DEM there.
(c) It's not a garmin format.
(d) It only works on a couple of GPS types.
(e) Raster maps are for fuddy duddies ;^) Seriously - the only real benefit is
familiarity.
(f) From what I know of the raster-capabilities of those units - you can only
load a very limited amount of raster at one time. Note that they don't mention
how much raster you can load at once...

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   Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:29 PM
   Subject: [ GPS Maps ] Re: raster + dem ?



   Like GB Discoverer maps...

   http://www.garmingbdiscoverer.co.uk/

   --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...> wrote:
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   > Does anyone know if exist any way to embed dem data to a raster map and
convert it into some garmin format?
   >
   > Thanks
   >





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#11622 From: "billnowicky" <bill.nowicky@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:32 pm
Subject: .TYP files and GPSMAPEDIT
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Hi there,

I've successfully used a .TYP file to create custom objects which I can see
using MapSource and also download to my GPSMAP60C.  Is there any way for also
see these custom objects in GPSMAPEDIT? If not, are there any map editors that
will display custom object types?

TIA, Bill

#11623 From: "Doug" <gps_maps@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:09 pm
Subject: Garmin Custom (raster) maps for Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota
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Map Authors,
Out of beta and into practice.  With only a couple of mistakes, I was able to
create a GPS map from a paper map covering 2500-acer resort.

The official "how-to" is here:
http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2009/10/creating-and-using-garmin-custom\
-maps-in-five-easy-steps.html

My artticle relates to the first-timer, what-am-I-doing-wrong experience, which
you will find here:
http://travelbygps.com/articles/custom.php

Enjoy!
- Doug

#11624 From: "Mark Newby" <tireguy51@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:48 pm
Subject: RE: [ GPS Maps ] Garmin Custom (raster) maps for Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota
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Wonderful link and article, Doug.  Thank you very much for sharing this.



Mark N.



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Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:10 AM
To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ GPS Maps ] Garmin Custom (raster) maps for Colorado, Oregon, and
Dakota





Map Authors,
Out of beta and into practice. With only a couple of mistakes, I was able to
create a GPS map from a paper map covering 2500-acer resort.

The official "how-to" is here:
http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2009/10/creating-and-using-garmin-cu
stom-maps-in-five-easy-steps.html

My artticle relates to the first-timer, what-am-I-doing-wrong experience,
which you will find here:
http://travelbygps.com/articles/custom.php

Enjoy!
- Doug





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#11625 From: "guido_p_schmidt" <guido@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Garmin Custom (raster) maps for Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota
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on http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/onthetrail/custommaps there is a
official site.

there some nice programs to use to make the kmz:

globalmapper.com
http://moagu.com/?page_id=155 (G-raster)


guido

--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Newby" <tireguy51@...> wrote:
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> Wonderful link and article, Doug.  Thank you very much for sharing this.
>
>
>
> Mark N.
>
>
>
> From: map_authors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:map_authors@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:10 AM
> To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ GPS Maps ] Garmin Custom (raster) maps for Colorado, Oregon, and
> Dakota
>
>
>
>
>
> Map Authors,
> Out of beta and into practice. With only a couple of mistakes, I was able to
> create a GPS map from a paper map covering 2500-acer resort.
>
> The official "how-to" is here:
> http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2009/10/creating-and-using-garmin-cu
> stom-maps-in-five-easy-steps.html
>
> My artticle relates to the first-timer, what-am-I-doing-wrong experience,
> which you will find here:
> http://travelbygps.com/articles/custom.php
>
> Enjoy!
> - Doug
>
>
>
>
>
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#11626 From: Michael Schlenstedt <schlenn@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:56 pm
Subject: .TYP files and GPSMAPEDIT
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Of course, have a look at "View -> Manage Map Skins" and "View -> Map
Skins". That's where you can use your custom type files.

Regards,
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#11629 From: "dasorsan" <dasorsan@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: [ GPS Maps ] Re: raster + dem ?
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Hi,

I forgot to write about GB discoverer in the first post, but im fact i
was thinkin of it.

I agree with you,vector is better to raster, but im wondering if is it
possible to embed DEM, or combine DEM and raster files and get something that i
can upload to a garmin gps, just to try... There are many places in the
world,like Morocco where i live, with no good vector resources and maybe it'd
interesting to improve the existing raster maps until good vector data is
released

What i read in

http://www.garmingbdiscoverer.co.uk/gb-discoverer/garmin-gb-discover-with-os-map\
ping.htm

http://www.garmingbdiscoverer.co.uk/demonstration/garmin-dakota-elevation.htm

is that these raster maps have topo elevation... Does it means DEM, have they z
coordinate or not??

I know raster maps works only for 2 or 3 garmin models and they have many memory
limitations, but ive got one of them and i like to investigate! ;)

Thanks



--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Turner" <g.turner@...> wrote:
>
> (a) If that's what you wanted, why didn't you say?
> (b) AFAICS there's no DEM there.
> (c) It's not a garmin format.
> (d) It only works on a couple of GPS types.
> (e) Raster maps are for fuddy duddies ;^) Seriously - the only real benefit is
familiarity.
> (f) From what I know of the raster-capabilities of those units - you can only
load a very limited amount of raster at one time. Note that they don't mention
how much raster you can load at once...
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: dasorsan
>   To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:29 PM
>   Subject: [ GPS Maps ] Re: raster + dem ?
>
>
>
>   Like GB Discoverer maps...
>
>   http://www.garmingbdiscoverer.co.uk/
>
>   --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "dasorsan" <dasorsan@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Does anyone know if exist any way to embed dem data to a raster map and
convert it into some garmin format?
>   >
>   > Thanks
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
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#11630 From: "Bill N." <bill.nowicky@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] .TYP files and GPSMAPEDIT
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Most excellent!

This is one of those things that is almost obvious once you know the answer.

Thanks,
Bill

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Michael Schlenstedt <schlenn@...>wrote:

> Of course, have a look at "View -> Manage Map Skins" and "View -> Map
> Skins". That's where you can use your custom type files.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
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#11631 From: "puntoazul_dg" <puntoazul_dg@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [ GPS Maps ] custom TYP lines rendering too thick
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Gary thanks for taking the time to answer I understand what you say... custom
TYP lines will be 1,2,3 or whatever pixels you specify allways at any zoom
level, you cant change for example a line to display in zoom level 1 at 3 pixels
and at zoom level 2 at 2 pixels and so on. I dont know if  im wrong but I get
the feeling that the default lines that garmin uses do work this way!

thanks



--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, Gary Turner <g.turner@...> wrote:
>
> I think (if I understand correctly) that you are making an assumption - that
there is a 'defaut' typ.
> There isn't. The device is programmed to display items in some way. It would
appear that this 'way' does include displaying things differently at different
zoom levels. Sometimes that's good. Sometimes it is bad (I think that dirt roads
get MORE prominent as you zoom out ).
>
> I think that when you override that default display with a typ file, what you
specify in the typ file is used at all zoom levels. I think that there is no way
to specify different displays at different zoom levels.
>
> All this is IMO. Feel free to correct. ;^)
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: puntoazul_dg
>   To: map_authors@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:15 PM
>   Subject: [ GPS Maps ] custom TYP lines rendering too thick
>
>
>
>   Hi
>
>   Does anybody know how to fix the problem with custom typ lines that render
too thick yin zoom levels that are not so close? (meaning not overzoom)
>
>   I am working with custom typ files created with the online editor for gamin
tyoe files http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi and everything is perfect
but the resulting custom typ file for lines seams to work a litle diferent than
the original typ that mapedit uses for example a mayor hiway in mapedit seems
thick in an overzoom but when you zoom out the line seems to get thiner and that
look great because the map looks cleaner but with custom typ lines the line is
allways 1 pixel or 2 pixels or 3 or whatever you choosed but that does not look
good when you zoom out on the map because they look too thick, so my guess is
that original typ lines work diferent on diferent zoom levels... so the question
is: does anybody know how to solve this?
>
>   thanks in advance
>
>   Leo
>
>
>
>
>
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#11632 From: "bobm_dr350se" <Bob_morphew@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: custom TYP lines rendering too thick
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--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "puntoazul_dg" <puntoazul_dg@...> wrote:

> Does anybody know how to fix the problem with custom typ lines that render too
thick yin zoom levels that are not so close? (meaning not overzoom)
>

I haven't tried to work around this "limitation" - I just set my trails to
display up to 20Km zoom level and hence they don't display when zoomed out
further.

I would think you could make your custom map so that at Level 0 you used, say,
Major Highway and specified this in your TYP as, say, 2 pixels wide with 1 pixel
border.  For Level 1, you would use a duplicate set of polylines and specify
them as, say Major Highway Connector and have your TYP display this as, say, a 2
pixel line with no borders.  For Level 2, you would use another duplicate set of
polylines set as a different road type and display it as a 1 pixel line.  This
way as you zoom out on the GPS the displayed "road" keep getting finer.

BTW, I just tried this for fun and it seems to work fine.  I also noticed that
the Garmin maps look better as you zoom out mainly because they specify less
detail (i.e. hide Minor roads) at each "Mapedit Level".

Bob

#11633 From: "puntoazul_dg" <puntoazul_dg@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:44 am
Subject: Re: custom TYP lines rendering too thick
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thank you Bob interesting solution you found there I will try it!

thanks again.



--- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "bobm_dr350se" <Bob_morphew@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In map_authors@yahoogroups.com, "puntoazul_dg" <puntoazul_dg@> wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know how to fix the problem with custom typ lines that render
too thick yin zoom levels that are not so close? (meaning not overzoom)
> >
>
> I haven't tried to work around this "limitation" - I just set my trails to
display up to 20Km zoom level and hence they don't display when zoomed out
further.
>
> I would think you could make your custom map so that at Level 0 you used, say,
Major Highway and specified this in your TYP as, say, 2 pixels wide with 1 pixel
border.  For Level 1, you would use a duplicate set of polylines and specify
them as, say Major Highway Connector and have your TYP display this as, say, a 2
pixel line with no borders.  For Level 2, you would use another duplicate set of
polylines set as a different road type and display it as a 1 pixel line.  This
way as you zoom out on the GPS the displayed "road" keep getting finer.
>
> BTW, I just tried this for fun and it seems to work fine.  I also noticed that
the Garmin maps look better as you zoom out mainly because they specify less
detail (i.e. hide Minor roads) at each "Mapedit Level".
>
> Bob
>

#11634 From: "boyd_ostroff" <ostroff@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Garmin Custom (raster) maps for Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota
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If anyone is interested, I've uploaded a number of these custom maps here:

http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/byuser/282/

They were all created with GlobalMapper. Most of them also push Garmin's limits
for file size and coverage. My experience with USGS 24k topo's is that 10 feet
per pixel is about as much as you can do without making the map look ragged.
Garmin's format would permit coverage of about 400 square miles (~20 miles x 20
miles) at this resolution.

If I use aerial imagery with a native resolution of 1 foot per pixel, it only
permits a map of about 4 square miles (~2 miles x 2 miles). Sampling this
imagery at 4 pixels per foot still looks pretty good and let you cover about 64
square miles.

I wish they would let use map a larger area, or at least allow us to have more
than one map loaded on the unit at a time. But currently, you can't do either of
these. Still, it's very cool!

#11635 From: "dr_barger" <don.barger@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:00 am
Subject: Transparent Background
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I finally got my golf maps to display on top of the Garmin navigation maps. The
transparent setting on the custom map just doesn't seem to work if the CN map
has a dark background. I tried different settings for the DrawPriority with
combinations of Background types and different polygon types.

I set the Transparent=N for an opaque map, loaded it into MapSource, then used
MapSetToolKit to edit the golf mapset settings. You can change the DrawPriority
to 31 (or something greater than 25). For some reason, I had to use
MapSetToolKit to set DrawPriority rather than try to set it in the golf map's
file header.

Cool. I don't have to switch between maps anymore.

Don

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