Hi Mars-Pennsylvania Group & PA Mars Society
Members:

I recently received this message (below) from a M.S.
member from New York. Whatever happens with the
election in November, I know that we are all hoping to
reach our goal of establishing a program of human
exploration on the surface Mars within the next decade
or two. To do this, it is critical to keep the issue
bipartisan (as it has been historically). One of the
ways we can do this is to assure that the Democrats
have a similar goal of reaching Mars as has been
outlined by President Bush. No matter where you stand
politically, you personally have the opportunity to
help get MoveOn.org to promote Humans to Mars as a
“Great Goal” for our nation. Please read on and click
on link below! MoveOn.org has a track record, and if
they can assist in making Mars a priority for Senator
Kerry, we will be closer to Mars regardless of the
election's outcome. The next two months are critical
on many fronts. More later. Thanks!
Sincerely,

Gustave Scheerbaum, P.E.
Pennsylvania State Political Coordinator
The Mars Society
gscheerbaum@...

NY member Andrew Hoppin wrote:
The massive US grassroots political organization
MoveOn.org is calling for "Great Goals" for the nation
to be articulated and voted on by its membership (see
below). If you click on this link
(http://tinyurl.com/2bd9z) you'll see that MoveOn has
even chosen JFK's 'Moon' quote as the headline for
their “Great Goals” page!

I have drafted a few paragraphs that I believe will
explain to this Progressive mostly Democratic audience
why and how we should adjust Bush's space program and
what NASA's Great Goal should be... let's build on
John Glenn's recent call for a direct to Mars program,
and make the "Great Goal" Humans to Mars by 2020. If
we can muster 10,000s of votes, MoveOn may activate
its millions of members to provide powerful political
support for the goal. The URL is
http://tinyurl.com/2bd9z

If you agree with it, please "vote" for it (check
whether you agree or disagree AND rate it (1 to 5
stars))on the MoveOn.org web site and encourage your
space communities to do the same. If you disagree,
please post your own "Great Goal" to MoveOn.org! Let's
put to rest once and for all the fallacy that
Progressives in the United States will not support a
visionary space program. Again, the URL is
http://tinyurl.com/2bd9z

> From: MoveOn.Org
>
[mailto:moveon-help-90000-1475596-s4QeiUN4nUQK3spyfa6hDw@l...]
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:06 AM
> To: ahoppin@u...
> Subject: Help Set MoveOn's Course
>
> Dear MoveOn member,
> MoveOn works for the same reason democracy does:
when lots of people work
> together, they generate great ideas and accomplish
great goals. That's why
> we need your help.
>
> To get direction from our members, we have set up an
online forum. There,
> you can share your ideas and goals for MoveOn and
our nation. Comments are
> read and rated by other members and the best ideas
float to the top. These
> help set MoveOn's course.
>
> Take a few moments today to contribute to the Great
Goals forum.
>
> Even if there's nothing on your mind, come read what
others are saying and
> help us find the ideas we should pursue:
>
>
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/index.html?forum_id=264
>
> Thanks for strengthening democracy by participating
in these important
> conversations!
>
> Sincerely,
> --Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and
Zack
> The MoveOn Team




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----- Original Message -----
From: Laura Sider
To: JT_info
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:21 AM
Subject: Justice Talking: What is the Future for NASA?--Don't forget!


Lost in Space: What is the Future for NASA?
Tuesday, May 11

7:30-9:00 PM.  The taping is an hour and a half with two short breaks.  Please
arrive at the Constitution Center by 7:20 PM. National Constitution Center

Guests:  Howard McCurdy, public affairs professor at American University, and
Robert Park, physics professor at University of Maryland

Please contact me with any questions.  We look forward to seeing you!

Laura Sider

Audience Developer

NPR's Justice Talking

215-573-8919

PA Chapter members,

In regard to reserving seats for the NPR Justice Talking Future of NASA show.

I have reserved 3 seats.  One is for me.  If you find when you go to the website
to reserve seats, none are available, then contact me and I will hand out the
other two on a first come/first served basis.

Below is the confirmation message I received as it contains some other useful
information.

I have sent Dr. Zubrin's phone and email to Laura Sider suggesting she contact
Dr. Z to be a guest.

On To Mars!
Gary Fisher
----- Original Message -----
From: jt_info@...
To: gcfis@...
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:34 PM
Subject: Justice Talking Reservation Confirmation


Thank you for your interest in Justice Talking!

You have reserved 3 seat/s for the 7:30 PM show on 5/11/2004 entitled Lost in
Space:  What is the future for NASA?. Your name will be on a list at the door
when you arrive.

Please try to arrive at least 10 minutes prior to the start time.  The show will
be taped at The National Constitution Center, Independence Mall, 525 Arch
Street, Philadelphia, PA . For a map of the area, including off-street parking
options, visit
http://www.constitutioncenter.org/visiting/Directions&Hours/index.shtml.  $7
parking vouchers are available.

Because seating is limited, it is important you let us know as soon as possible
if you can't attend.  To view or cancel your current reservations, visit
http://www.justicetalking.org/joinaudience_viewreservations.asp.

We're glad you'll join us!

Laura Sider
Audience Developer
lsider@...
215-573-8919

Philadelphia and other PA chapter members,
This could be a lot of fun!
Gary Fisher
----- Original Message -----
From: lsider@...
To: gcfisheris@...
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 12:38 AM
Subject: Justice Talking: What is the future for NASA?


Mr. Fisher,

We'd like to invite the Philadelphia Mars Society members to join us for this
debate.  I spoke with Kevin Sloan at Penn State, who said their members might
come.  This could make a terrific meet-up event.  I'll send information about
the guests as soon as possible.  Please contact me with any questions.





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It's free!



Lost in Space: What is the future for NASA?
Tuesday, May 11

7:30 - 9:00 PM

National Constitution Center (525 Arch Street, Independence Mall)


As photos from Spirit and Opportunity were first beamed to earth, the President
announced his intention to put a man on Mars. Challenging the President's
priorities, scientists speak about protecting the planet from wayward asteroids
and budget hawks argue for more resources to address government red ink than for
trips to the red planet. For more than a generation, NASA, along with the
nation, has celebrated mission successes and mourned its losses. Our criticism
is matched by our curiosity, which leaves one to wonder what the future hold for
the space program.



Guests: TBA



Can't make it to the taping?  Join the discussion online at
www.justicetalking.org.  Your comment or question might make it on the air.



Justice Talking airs in Philadelphia on WHYY 91 FM at 10 p.m. Mondays, and on
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Laura Sider

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POLITICAL ACTION ALERT
Chris Carberry, Political Director, The Mars Society
marspolitics@...
617-646-0523

For further information about the Mars Society, visit
our website at: www.marssociety.org

To All:
We must not slow down our efforts to guarantee that
humans to Mars remains on the agenda. We need to rally
our forces to let Congress, and the likely Democratic
nominee, know that there is broad support for the
goals of the new space exploration initiative. We
should accomplish this in the following ways.

1. The Aldridge Commission has provided a public venue
for the public to provide their opinions. We need to
fully utilize this site.
http://www.moontomars.org/notices/contact.asp We need
to let them know that humans to Mars should occur no
later than 2020. We should recommend that the hardware
should be designed for a mission to Mars, and that a
subset of that hardware should used and tested on the
Moon.

2. We need to continue our efforts contacting
Congress. Tell them we support the President's 2005
budget request. If this request fails, then we will
not get an opportunity like this for some time.
Questions concerning this effort should be referred to
our Congressional Outreach Coordinator, Scott DiPietro
(sdipietr@...).

Recent Statement by Robert Zubrin: "The Mars
Exploration budget would be funded at $690.9 million,
an increase of $95.8 million over the current fiscal
year. The vast majority of the funds ($515.6 million)
would be used to develop technology that "supports new
space exploration vision."

"Such technology development programs and flight test
missions are valuable steps that could help open the
way for initiating a human Mars exploration program.
The Mars Society therefore strongly endorses these and
related budget requests that are part of the plan for
the new space exploration initiative, and urges
congress to pass the requested funding for these items
for FY 05."

3. We need to make sure that the likely Democratic
Presidential nominee, Senator John Kerry, knows that
there is broad support for humans to Mars and if he is
elected, he should support not merely continuing, but
substantially improving where the previous
administration left off.

National Headquarters
John Kerry for President, Inc.
519 C Street, NE
Washington, DC 20002
202-548-6800
202-548-6801 (fax)
http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/

Only together can we help to make sure this plan is
supported, and that it develops in a way that will get
us to Mars by 2020.

Chris Carberry
Political Director, The Mars Society
marspolitics@...
617-646-0523

FROM YOUR STATE POLITICAL COORDINATOR:

In case you believe Senator John Edwards will end up
being the Democratic Presidential Nominee, please ALSO
let him know that there is broad support for humans to
Mars and if elected, he should support, not merely
continuing, but substantially improving where the
previous administration left off. Thanks.

National Campaign Headquarters
Edwards for President
PO Box 300034
Raleigh, NC 27622
919-785-1900
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/contact_us.asp


Gustave Scheerbaum, P.E.
Pennsylvania State Political Coordinator
The Mars Society
gscheerbaum@...


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Hello Mars-Pennsylvania Group & PA Mars Society
Members:

I've emailed our PA member list a number of times, but
realized the mars-penn group list contains a larger
group of people and it's easier to use for bulk
emailing. To make sure everyone is getting messages,
I've gone through both mailing lists to make sure
people do not receive duplicate emails (from me). For
everyone on the mars-penn group who is not actually a
Mars Society member, I encourage you to join and
participate.

And on to the referenced subject:
The Political task Force would like to begin tracking
feedback from our congressional representatives on the
Bush plan for human space exploration. What we are
asking is that you check local sources and gather
quotes, statements, etc. that your state's
congresspeople have made.  This will give us credible
sources of information to use to help members prepare
for visits.  It will also give the PTF a list of where
these people in congress stand (for, against, neutral
or no position stated).  We will compile the
information and post it on the website by state.

Please send any information you gather to Matt Lowry
at lowryclan@... or Richard Sylvan at
rlsylvan@.... Please document when and where the
information came from. Here is some of the info that
would be needed:

Name of Congressperson
State (use standard state abbreviations)
Date & Source of Statement
Transcript of Actual Statement

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to
ask. Thanks!

On to Mars!

Gustave Scheerbaum, P.E.
Pennsylvania State Political Coordinator
Mars Society
gscheerbaum@...



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The 1/18/2004 Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer front page article about the Mars
Society can be found on the web at:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/front/7735125.htm

Regards,
Gary

A front page article in Sunday's (01/18/2004)  Philadelphia Inquirer talks about
the Mars Society.  The Sunday Inquirer Early Edition is available today.  The
article may appear online tomorrow at: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/

My apologies to all those who do not like to be thought of as "geeks."

Regards,
Gary Fisher

Another poll to vote in.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: kurt.m.chankaya@...
To: spacesuit-mars@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:05 AM
Subject: [spacesuit-mars] Bush calls for a return to the moon


Bush's new manned space policy is out:

Bush calls for a return to the moon by 2018 (15 years), followed by Mars
someday.

Check it out:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/09/bush.space/index.html

Also, there is a CNN Vote on whether or not we should go to Mars.

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President Bush through "officials, speaking on condition of anonymity" has
floated a trial balloon about sending humans to Mars after a return to the Moon
and the construction of a lunar base.

With the air literally going out of the ISS program and color pictures coming
back from the surface of Mars this is a tipping point moment.

I was just at the Habitation 2004 conference.  Both the concierge at my hotel
and the bell hop at the conference hotel upon hearing that I was attending a
conference on living in space engaged me in surprisingly well informed
discussions on what the Mars rover would do and what it may help us learn about
Mars.  This is on people's minds.

I personally have no strong objections to Bush's floated plan, my only real
objection is that so far there are some goals being mentioned, but no
Kennedyesque hard deadlines for achieving them.

Don't let Bush's trial balloon deflate!

It is important that right now people who support sending humans to Mars phone,
fax, email, or snail mail the White House to express support.  President Bush
may be reached at president@..., 202-456-1111, or by writing
President George W. Bush, The White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, NW Washington,
DC 20500.  Bush has floated trial balloons before, such as Retirement Savings
Accounts as part of Social Security reform, only to let them disappear until the
time seems more appropriate.

The Democratic front runner, Howard Dean, is running on a platform of all things
not Bush.  His inclination will be to object to this proposal, but he has made
statements in support of humans to Mars:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A58372\
-2003Nov3&notFound=true
If you are a scientist you can register your opinion at Scientists for Dean:
http://scientistsfordean.org/taxonomy/view/or/24
Note that the registration page for this site is currently running a poll:
"Should Dr. Dean emphasize his position in support of aggressive human Mars
exploration" at this page:
http://scientistsfordean.org/?q=user/register
As of this morning only 40 votes had been cast running 63% in favor.

Also on the Democratic side, Wesley Clark, has asked for input on America's
space future and you can give your two cents at: http://space.forclark.com/

I believe our goal has to be to get all the candidates supporting the idea of
humans to Mars and only arguing about the details.  A vigorous debate is needed
to raise awareness of the issue to the point where public opinion tips (we hope)
towards a consensus that this is a good and necessary goal.

The two major candidates have publicly endorsed the idea of Humans to Mars.  The
press spotlight is on them.  We have to find ways to get them to publicly make
the case for why this is a good idea.  Write your newspaper's editors, contact
the networks, e.g., http://www.cnn.com/feedback/ and ask them to ask the
candidates about this issue.  The press is our proxy - get them to get the
candidates and the talking heads talking about Mars.

Surely, there must be many in the press who are tired of covering Brittany and
Paris, Neverland Ranch, and the sensational murder du jour and want an excuse to
cover a serious subject other than Iraq.  Make them feel the demand.

Tip it.
Regards,
Gary Fisher

I have an opinion piece appearing on www.spacedaily.com at
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-03zzi.html

To sum up the idea:  Space habitats are the ultimate off the grid homes.  Our
dependence upon centralized systems for such things as power, water, fuel, and
waste treatment leaves us vulnerable to a number of threats man-made or natural.
Therefore, space habitation is valuable as a method to develop these
technologies that can provide for greater security.

I would be curious what the members of this group think.

I have John McKnight to thank for helping me turn a very long piece of writing
into something far more succinct - though you may not think so!

I told Simon at spacedaily that I live near Philadelphia, but for some reason he
locates me in LA.

Regards,
Gary Fisher

Hi everyone!

This is primarily for people in the Philadelphia area, but anyone else in the PA
chapters is welcome to participate.  In particular I would request large copies
of the graphics done by the Penn State Chapter.

I received the attached letters from Alex Magoun, Ph.D. the Executive Director
of the David Sarnoff Library in Princeton, NJ.  To summarize the letters - the
library, in association with the Institute for Arts and Humanities Education and
the New Jersey Antique Radio Club will present a theatrical recreation of the
radio broadcast, "War of The Worlds" on Saturday, November 1 at 7pm.  This is
the 65th anniversary of the original Orson Wells broadcast.

The library is dedicated to science education.  Check out their website at
www.davidsarnoff.org
The evening starts at 6pm with a Martian costume contest, then the broadcast,
then a reception.

They will waive the admission fee for anyone who comes and helps with the Mars
Society display which they have requested include our robots.

Alex has said we can set up at the back of the auditorium and will have space on
the walls to hang posters, table and chairs, and room for the robots.  He
expects about a third of the 200 people in the audience will be under 16.  In
addition there will be the radio club members, the performers and members of
local media.

If anyone is interested he has invited us to the NJ Antique Radio Club meeting
the evening of Friday October 10 to scout the place out.  Also if anyone has any
sort of radio presentation they would put them on the agenda for the Oct 10
meeting (Earl, any of your SETI League members?)

Please let me know if you can help out on November 1st.  It should be a lot of
fun.  Anyone who needs a ride could take the train to the Beth Ayres station
that afternoon and I could give them a ride.

Thanks,
Gary Fisher

And Mars Society members are welcome too!
Gary Fisher
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Phila. Area Space Alliance Event





           PHILADELPHIA AREA SPACE ALLIANCE EVENT
For Immediate Release..................................Please Post
                                                       On Web
    Mitchell Gordon of PASA, and Robin Pinnel of Joseph Henry Press, announce a
scheduled talk on October 16th by Robert Zimmerman, author of ?Leaving Earth:
Space Stations, Rival Superpowers, and the Quest for Interplanetary travel.?  
The event takes place at Barnes & Noble, 18th and Walnut Street, in Center City,
Philadelphia at 7 p.m.

    Arthur C. Clarke says in his review: ?So many hundreds of books have been
written about the space programme that one may reasonably ask: do we need
another?   The answer in this case
is definitely yes.?

    Members of the Phila. Area Space Alliance, the World Future Society of
Phila., and the Phila. Science Fiction Society are encouraged to attend.   The
book (528 pages) will be available
for purchase ($27.95).   A discussion on space travel in a downtown bookstore is
long overdue in our region, so please tell your friends, and make plans to
welcome the author to our city.
Contact Mitchell Gordon (mfgordon@...) if you need further information
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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: [mstechnology] Mars in the Movies


>
>         "Hurd Goes To Mars"
>
> Reported 06-June-03
>
> Producer Gale Ann Hurd (Hulk, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines)
> has signed a deal with the SCI FI Channel to produce the six-hour
> miniseries, Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars. <snip>
>
> Based on Robinson's best-selling novel of the same name, Red
> Mars chronicles the epic adventure of the first hundred colonists on
> Mars and their perilous mission to create a new world. Author
> Robinson, a member of NASA's Mars Committee, will consult on
> the project, which will be written by Gregory Widen (Highlander,
> Backdraft). Currently in development, the project is slated to air in
> late 2004."
>
> From :
>
>      http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-sfc.html?2003-06/06/12.30.sfc
>
>
> For the best list of Mars Movies on the internet, check out:
>
>      http://chapters.marssociety.org/SanDiego/MarsMovies.html
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