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Re: [mda-discussion] Re: Hurdles to MDA adoption

Hi

I have a question (vaguely related to this thread):

What is the difference between a "Programming Language" (such as C++) and an
"Executable Modelling Language" (such as Executable UML)?

To put the question another way. Suppose an organisation that uses Ada wants to
move to another language. Is it sensible to view the choices open as Executable
UML or C++?

To to the question yet another way: Is "Executable UML" a programming language
and, if not, what does it have to do to qualify as one?

Rgds
Ashley


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Hi, I'm examining various model driven approaches and their applicability to organizations that have a commitment to existing open-source OO frameworks they... 		arnel_periquet
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Responding to Arnel_periquet... ... One problem here is that stepping through the code is employing a representation that is an order of magnitude less compact...
H. S Lahman
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... unambiguous specification of what the software implementation must do. So there shouldn't be a need for more formalization and the models aren't teaching...
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Responding to Arnel_periquet... ... Hmm. Unfortunately I see the role of frameworks -- either for development tools or in the customer domain -- to be...
H. S Lahman
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... likely ... I think I understand how the approaches mirror at different abstraction levels. You're take is that you either go 4G with an optimized model...
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Responding to Arnel_periquet... ... The OOP-based agile processes are not the only game in town at the 3GL level, so the OR to 4GL development is broader. I...
H. S Lahman
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... where ... MDD ... selected ... new ... capitalize ... hi Arnel, Are the existing frameworks successful? Do they get the job done adequately, and are people...
Srinivas Nedunuri
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Hi Srinivas, ... I'm personally part of the Series 60 Multimedia team with Nokia. We develop a platform offering for the mobile phones market based on the ...
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... <Arnel.Periquet@...> wrote: I see that your are looking different kind of frameworks here: the other is more domain-specific and tied with specific OS,...
Juha-Pekka Tolvanen
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Thanks Juha-Pekka! I'll definitely have a look. -Arnel ________________________________ From: mda-discussion@yahoogroups.com ...
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Hi Arnel, ... commitment to their frameworks. In some cases, the frameworks _are_ the business which means the non-functional part of the work is where much of...
Jorn Bettin
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Hi I have a question (vaguely related to this thread): What is the difference between a "Programming Language" (such as C++) and an "Executable Modelling...
Ashley at Metamaxim
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Responding to Ashley... ... I think they are all programming languages (as was BAL) if one uses a sufficiently general definition of 'programming language'....
H. S Lahman
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I appreciate your insight, Jorn. Let me refocus the "hurdles" to a couple more issues: (1) templates and transformation is meta-programming which may be a ...
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Responding to Arnel_periquet... ... Templates are implementation mechanisms. For example, the templates used in PathMATE are exposed to the customer and they...
H. S Lahman
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Hi Arnel, ... tough transition for traditional framework developers The difficult part of the learning curve is the mind shift required by framework...
Jorn Bettin
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To H.S. Lahman and Jorn Bettin: Thanks very much for the insight and discussion. I really appreciate your helpful advice. For the benefit of this forum, here's...
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Responding to Arnel_periquet... ... Qualification: in a translation environment with full code generation the templates/transformations are provided by the...
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