Hi all, First intro: My name is Rajesh Vasa, I teach at Swinburne University. We are running a new course titled "Agile Methodology Project" aimed at Masters...
Rajesh, last year I helped run a student project at Swinburne TAFE using XP, these were students who were in the final semester of a two year software...
Rajesh (and other list members). I'll start with an intro as well. I am a testing specialist based in Melbourne, recently in Florida keynoting on some agile...
Hey Raj, Long time no see.. ... Just a note on this one. So long as they can program you can use the XP Pair Programming technique and from what I've found its...
Rajesh, To perhaps point out the obvious, one way to meet people in Melbourne is to come along to a meeting. I think that the comments from Martin and Micheal ...
... I think there's something in that though - XP can be a bit more 'flying by the seat of your pants' than other styles (which is what scares some managers),...
Erik, Interesting stuff, I would also like to get sponsorship with regard to Agile Drinking! Virginia has nice beer I hear! Is there anyone who would like to...
... This may not apply at the industrial level, but in the undergraduate teaching environment, XP really does place some additional stress on the students....
... get ... Yes, I would. I think the fundamental problem may be with the words "programmer" and "team". XP uses "programmer", at its broadest, to cover ...
Martin, ... I understand that XP relies on some skills that aren't emphasised in undergraduate courses, so you get a mismatch. I was about to type that I ...
... Maybe, but it will be a few years before we find out. Even if XP remains a niche process, many of the XP practices and philosophies will migrate into the...
... [snip] ... Where do you see the guidance being strong in non-agile methods? Assuming that both had been taught for the equivalent periods? ... the ... out ...
... This week do this step and spend the week doing it, next week do the next step and spend the whole week doing it. Here's the exact format of the documents...
... Martin, more power to you showing your students things that they turn out to be glad to know! I'm wondering if the amount of guidance could be similar for...
... Assuming ... Fair enough. In XP we'd hope to have a person to do this, rather than a book. If there isn't a person available, that would be a problem. ... ...
John, Apologies if you have a problem with my post. As far as I can see it was dealt with agile processes. It was responding to Rajesh's post, and also ...
Here's my first post to this list and I hope I don't make too large a fool of myself... OOPs, Just Did ;-) I've been following this discussion with great...
Sean ROBINS
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... But isn't that the point of a mailinglist? or am I missing something ;-) [snip] ... It certainly does make a lot of sence. Speaking from personal...
... Congratulations Sean and welcome to the wonderful world of University teaching :-) ... The issue of what should be taught in University courses is a vexed ...
... I think this is quite possible, the one glitch for a university is that customer role, so this semester I'm teaching 263 students System Design, say I ...
... yep, if I could put a tutor with each group to work with them on their assignment as a mentor, it wouldn't be a problem :-) ... So, basically what you're...
Hi Martin, ... One answer is - when we have duplication in the code, and part of that is where we've just been working or are just about to work to add a...
XP should really be called Extreme Team Programming, because of the focus on the team rather than the individuals, and decision by consensus. Not only do...
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:47:31 +1000, martin dick wrote ... Wouldn't it be easier to have some kind of Requirements or Contract document the students could work...
... Yes, that's what I do with the traditional process I use at the moment, but that is very different to what is supposed to happen ofn an XP project. XP has...
... Well despite the many complaints of our students who often dislike working in groups in the course I teach in, one of the first year programming units and...
HI, Dear all, short introduction, I am a master student in melbourne uni, intrerested in XP, from my point of view, in XP, unit test and refactoring play a...
Hi James, It's hard for me to think of practices that aren't important to XP. Unit testing and refactoring are important, but so are customer tests, and pair ...
... Hi James, Welcome to the group. Yes, the TDD book is excellent - you might be interested to know that a few people from the MXPEG are listed as reviewers...
Hey James Come and visit us on level 3, ICT building, Barry Street, room 3.25b (Maia, Kevin) or room 3.11 (Kendall). We are all postgrad Computer Science ...
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