There was a yellow Nokia phone in a black leather case left at the MXPEG meeting tonight. If it's yours, let me know so it can get back to you. Best, Murray ...
... cables)? ... Chris, Sorry I didn't reply to this one, I didn't see it because Yahoo! turned off delivery to my e-mail address 28/5 as a result of bounces....
Hmmm, location "TBA"... Is it still at ACNielsen? It's 6pm now... the meeting starts in an hour; I'll have to leave shortly if I'm going to get there... I just...
I would like to propose holding the next MXPEG meeting here at Anite. The address is: Level 20 367 Collins Street It is the Optus Building, about 6 mins walk...
I would like to second that proposal. Does the change of venue make a difference to anyone? ... From: Thorne Nigel, Melbourne [mailto:nigel.thorne@...] ...
... Nigel> I would like to propose holding the next MXPEG meeting here at Nigel> Anite. Murray> I would like to second that proposal. Does the change of venue...
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Great Idea Nigel. +1 here That would put the next meeting on Tue 29th at 7pm Anite : Level 20, 367 Collins Street (Optus Building) Nigel - is 7pm ok for...
I was thinking about the bowling game problem. I am discussing a solution not because I am trying to show I can solve it, but because I believe there is...
Hi all. A small flaw in your logic unfortunately Nigel is that in existing bowling alley systems, it's possible to go back and adjust any score at any time. ...
I agree. At the point you require that functionality you would need to store all throws. This was not a requirement. Maybe your point is that it is YAGNI and...
I guess if I was a person who had used that 3 ball method for scoring, it might well be how I'd choose to pass the tests on the first go. As I didn't know...
I don't there's anything missing from TDD, just from my insight into scoring - I've never considered Nigel's model (though I will next time). As I said on the...
I would disagree with this being a flaw in Nigel's solution - you would just instantiate another Scorer object and run the game back through it to come out...
.....on the assumption that you had some other object whose responsibility it is to simply record all the throws for posterity....:) Separation of concerns is...
Hi all If we agree that the 3 ball approach is sufficient for our current needs and that it is likely to support the stories that we currently know about,...
Hi All, I have several components on a project that are inter-dependant; lets call them X, Y & Z. X & Y both depend on Z, however the problem is Z is not a...
Marcus, Stub it out. X, Y & Z are separate components and should be tested as such. Since automated builds are there to verify the individual component, you...
Hi Paul, I agree with you - unit tests should not be dependant on any external process/resource, as they merely exercise classes. However, i also require...
Marcus, I think your flaw is in your statement: "i also require suites of integration tests which exercise the component itself". I believe that integration...
Hi All, Speaking of external resources, i thought i'd throw this issue to the group. One of the components i have developed is an "internet gateway sort of...
Gump is a good integration testing tool. It's used primarily to test that the latest version of components will build together and so has a slightly ...
Hi Marcus, Stubs are an entirely valid approach to situations like the one you describe. I do, however, agree with Paul, that integration and unit tests are...
Does PMD work with C#? Or is there something that does? Cheers Nigel Thorne Senior Software Developer Anite International Tel: +61 (0) 3 9918 4038 Fax:...
Hi all, If someone approaches you with an idea for software and money to back it, how do you go about quoting on the job? My instinct is:- * First do high...