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1752 Robert Smyth
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Sep 1, 2004
7:59 pm
Maybe i'm not using the right word (procedural), anyway here are my thoughts on why XP is procedural ... I see XP as a specific agile methodology. It requires...
1753 Bishop, Murray
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Sep 1, 2004
11:17 pm
I've been reading "Project Retrospectives - A handbook for team reviews" by Norman Kerth, in preparation for doing one. Mr. Kerth recommends a couple of things...
1754 Nigel Thorne
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Sep 1, 2004
11:35 pm
When I was running weekly retrospectives at Torus we held them in the boardroom. We got the whole team together and went around asking everyone what they felt...
1755 Bishop, Murray
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Sep 1, 2004
11:49 pm
... It does help. Sounds like it did result in useful changes. Doing a little each week seems to me like something that can be in or out without a cost hurdle...
1756 Nigel Thorne
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Sep 2, 2004
12:10 am
The advantage of weekly retrospectives is the speed of feedback. A reoccurring theme in XP is "if something is good do it more often". Post-mortems are good,...
1757 kurtheiz Offline Send Email Sep 2, 2004
12:15 am
Hi Thanks to all who repsonded to my original thread of "Anyone successfully used SCRUM?" Good food for thought in those posts for me personally. This leads me...
1758 Bishop, Murray
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Sep 2, 2004
12:45 am
... Yes. ... Yes. ... Yes. That makes sense. And if we have a project where we haven't been doing weekly retrospectives, or anything like that, I think that we...
1759 Glen Stampoultzis
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Sep 2, 2004
4:26 am
... Probably very true. Just saying that is the easy bit however. The hard things is exactly how to do this. XP provides some guidance but it's such ...
1760 Nigel Thorne
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Sep 2, 2004
4:54 am
Everyone has to have something to strive for :-) _____ From: Glen Stampoultzis [mailto:gstamp@...] Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2004 2:26 PM To:...
1761 Glen Stampoultzis
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Sep 2, 2004
7:27 am
... Yes. Would not be much fun otherwise would it. Glen Stampoultzis gstamp@... http://members.iinet.net.au/~gstamp/glen/...
1762 clubienski Offline Send Email Sep 2, 2004
11:32 pm
Without having read the book, a couple of simple techniques I've used in the past quite successfully include: 1. Continuing on the theme of keeping positive,...
1763 Kurt Heiz
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Sep 3, 2004
2:14 am
We are busy reviewing how we are going to buid the teams for our sprints, and we decided to create the teams after the Sprint Backlog (SB) has been identified,...
1764 Bishop, Murray
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Sep 3, 2004
3:23 am
... Thank you very much for sharing your experience with me. This all sounds to me like something likely to work well and worth trying. I'll have a talk with...
1765 Chris Garty
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Sep 3, 2004
5:04 am
This would seem to relate more to the practices you are using inside your Sprint, so is outside the scope of Scrum. Frequent customer interaction is essential...
1766 Kurt Heiz
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Sep 3, 2004
6:00 am
What we are trying to figure out is, would you add the activity "Gather and document requirements for End of Year business function" to the Product Backlog,...
1767 Steve Hayes
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Sep 3, 2004
6:04 am
I like to draw the "team" boundary as broadly as possible. You can ask similar questions about DBAs, HCI specialists etc. I find that I need to draw...
1768 Chris Garty
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Sep 3, 2004
6:13 am
Yes, I'd agree with Steve. I use a broad definition and include non-programming tasks such as design and database specific tasks. However, I usually keep it to...
1769 Kurt Heiz
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Sep 3, 2004
6:34 am
Good advice. That is the empirical process after all..inspect and adapt. Thanks Kurt ... programming tasks such as design and database specific tasks. However,...
1770 Kurt Heiz
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Sep 3, 2004
6:34 am
So, on the Product Backlog, would you include ALL activities required to produce the Product, e.g. "Procure hardware", "Developer training in .NET", "Gather...
1771 Chris Garty
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Sep 3, 2004
6:45 am
Just my opinion here... I would include: "Developer training in .NET" "Gather requirements re: XYZ" ... since they affect the amount of time the team has in...
1772 Steve Hayes
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Sep 5, 2004
8:38 am
Sorry, late getting back to these things... Yes, I would. If you don't do that, then you're creating a group of teams, each with their own backlog. If you...
1773 Steve Hayes
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Sep 5, 2004
8:40 am
Chris, I bet you'd still include "Check that hardware was procured" in the backlog though. Just because something is a responsibility allocated to someone in...
1774 Steve Hayes
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Sep 5, 2004
8:58 am
Robert, I think that you mean "prescriptive", rather than procedural, but I understand what you mean. There is *NO* list of practices that must be followed for...
1775 Chris Garty
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Sep 6, 2004
1:24 am
Yup. Agreed :) Steve Hayes <steve@...> wrote:Chris, I bet you'd still include "Check that hardware was procured" in the backlog though. Just...
1776 Robert Smyth
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Sep 6, 2004
10:19 am
... Ah yes ... your right "prescriptive" is what i was looking for. ... Gosh, here we have very different views. Unfortunaley my XP books are at work, but my...
1777 Steve Hayes
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Sep 6, 2004
11:14 pm
... XP is a list of practices that Kent and others have found to be synergistic. It's a great starting point (although Kent also talks about adopting XP one...
1778 Kurt Heiz
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Sep 7, 2004
7:21 am
Hi The system we are working on is currently developed using Visual Basic 6 COM components and ASP pages. New development will take place using .NET. Can...
1779 Chris Garty
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Sep 7, 2004
8:24 am
Those are the best. If you are doing ASP.Net, check out NUnitAsp as well - Chris Kurt Heiz <kurtheiz@...> wrote: Hi The system we are working on is...
1780 Kurt Heiz
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Sep 7, 2004
10:33 am
Thanks Chris. ... as well ... place ... Service....
1781 Robert Smyth
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Sep 7, 2004
12:15 pm
What you say makes sense to me. I'm going to have to think more about this "prescriptive" bit though ... you have me thinking. Food for thought, thank you. ...
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