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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Melbourne XP Enthusiasts Meeting Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2004 Time: 6:30PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT+11:00) ...
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Nov 2, 2004
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Folks, You've probably seen my earlier call for articles for a newsletter. One of the features of the newsletter will be a sort of "agony aunt" column, where a...
Steve Hayes
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Nov 2, 2004
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So, just a reminder. The talk/discussion topic will be "What makes good unit tests?" presented by Nigel Thorne (me), beginning at 6:30pm The meeting will be...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 4, 2004
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Hi Steve, Can you pass the following on to your MXPEG list; We have updated our website with a faster template and hope this is much more friendly to use....
Steve Hayes
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Nov 6, 2004
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Hi Folks, There may have been some discussion about this before, but I'm interested to hear people's thoughts about moving an existing project over to using...
Craig Ambrose
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Nov 8, 2004
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I think you are going about it the right way. I would write acceptance tests for the application to show what is working. I would then pick areas and refactor...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 8, 2004
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Folks, Two positions on my team, though not for programmers. http://www.seek.com.au/showjob.asp?jobid=4269233 http://www.seek.com.au/showjob.asp?jobid=4269339....
Steve Hayes
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Nov 8, 2004
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Also be aware that unit tests are both a help and a constraint. They're executable specifications, and it's great to be able to rerun them, but when the...
Steve Hayes
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Nov 8, 2004
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Thanks Steve, that's a good point. I can see my self coding more unit tests as the interface moves more towards the way I want it to look. Interestingly ...
Craig Ambrose
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Nov 8, 2004
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It was an interesting situation. It's basically the goal doner, gold owner split. We tried to use the game designer as out internal customer. In fairness, he...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 8, 2004
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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Melbourne XP Enthusiasts Meeting Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2004 Time: 6:30PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT+11:00) ...
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... Interestingly ... (in ... Snap! Customer tests have taken me a long while to get to. I'm doing command line (batch) programs mostly. Acceptance testing has...
Bishop, Murray
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Nov 8, 2004
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Exactly what we did for a project that was replacing/updating various middleware components. All the components communicated via XML so we ran the existing...
Simon Harris
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Nov 9, 2004
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... ran ... out. ... with ... For me, working with batch processes, collecting the output was just a matter of using > on the command line. I'm curious about...
Bishop, Murray
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Nov 9, 2004
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... We just had to make sure they were shaped as paper aeroplanes. Nothing too fancy though ;-) But seriously, they were sent via MQ Series over JMS so it was...
Simon Harris
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Nov 10, 2004
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+1 to focusing on acceptance tests. At the end of the day, if your app runs as expected as a whole, and you _know_ it works as expected as a whole, you will...
James Ross
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Nov 10, 2004
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... Try a small, concrete experiment instead (an existence proof), to avoid the heat and the debate? And if this bit works, and that bit works.... Steve...
Steve Hayes
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Nov 10, 2004
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It occured to me the other day that the relationship between the customer and the development team should be like that of a witness and a police sketch artist....
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 10, 2004
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Hi All I would like to take this opportunity to thank iP3 for the use of their facilities at last Tuesdays meeting. I would also like to thank everyone who...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 10, 2004
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... When I attended an agile development conference in Sydney a couple of months back, Alistair Cockburn had us do an exercise based on this idea. Customers...
Simon Crase
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Nov 10, 2004
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Hi all, I can't agree more. A team that I'm working with has inherited a framework that has limited unit test coverage. The framework is built in such a way ...
Jon Eaves
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Nov 10, 2004
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The four-year-old ISI program has a tortured history of cost over-runs and implementation difficulties that ultimately led to the melt-down of the NAB's...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 11, 2004
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To follow on from our last meeting, check out these unit test smells in James' blog http://www.redhillconsulting.com.au/blogs/james/archives/000200.html...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 13, 2004
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I didn't drag my lazy ass to the meeting so this may have already been mentioned... http://docs.codehaus.org/display/ASH/Home When you are coding, how often do...
Jason C Yip
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Nov 13, 2004
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Hi all One question that I'm still wrestling with after last week's Unit Testing meeting is whether a unit test method should _ever_ have more than one...
Bruce Cropley
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Nov 15, 2004
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I frequently have multiple assertions in a single test. They are all testing the result of a single action though. public void ShouldMakeThreeElementArray() { ...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 15, 2004
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... test. ... though. ... // <--- action ... Thanks Nigel. I guess this could be regarded as a single logical comparison of the actualResult object with an...
Bruce Cropley
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Nov 15, 2004
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Oh, ok I see what you are asking. Try asking yourself these questions. Which is more readable? Which is easier to find bugs with? Which is better for...
Nigel Thorne
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Nov 15, 2004
7:00 pm
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... I think that according to the second rule above, this test (which I've written recently) [Test] public void Test_IsStandardLength_When_8_12_13_14() { ...
Bishop, Murray
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Nov 15, 2004
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... Last week I found another way to do those 4 asserts in NUnit 2.2: Assert.AreEqual(new int[] {3, 2, 1}, actualResult); I'm not sure which form I prefer yet,...
Bishop, Murray
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