Geoff, Good point about the 7th as this is Melbourne Cup Day and the IBS offices will be closed. I suggested we move the meeting to the Wed 8th if that suits...
Hi James & Geoff The MXPEG calendar is set to schedule the meeting for the second Tuesday of the month, which falls on the 14th of November. Which would IBS...
Ah, second Tuesday it is then ! (14th November) ... _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: 110,000+ cars with the...
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How often do you make full releases to production? One of our clients is lucky enough to have major new functionality delivered into production every 6 weeks....
Hi Mike. My response is probably fairly irrelevant given my domain but I thought I'd throw it in for amusement's sake. Upgrades come at a significant cost as ...
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Hi, I'm reading a book at the moment (eXtreme .Net) which is a rather nice introduction to XP in the .Net environment. I'm on the chapter on Test Driven...
Hi David, It's not exactly what you're talking about, but sometimes I've found myself extracting a super class from a pair of test classes that have methods in...
Thanks. I'll look into it. Cheers Dave _____ From: melbourne_XP_enthusiasts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:melbourne_XP_enthusiasts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of...
You're exactly right with those code snippets. Quick code used to perform the same functionality with VS.NET 2003. In terms of what I'm thinking of, I'm...
Just in case anyone is interested 23th November - ACS E-Commerce SIG <http://http//www.acs.org.au/vic/ecsig/> * Time * Thursday @ 6.30pm * Venue * MIT...
At last weeks XP Meeting the issue of Salesman promising Vapor-ware came up causing divided opinion. todays Daily WTF also mentions this issue in post "Lacking...
I want to know how Dave did this. Three days later, Dave was on a plane headed to The Netherlands. They say everyone has a price; Dave's was a 20% bonus and an...
Hi Mike, Contractor Solutions has been released to prod (approx.) every 2 weeks for over 18 months now - it's amazing how the users come to expect the regular...
Synetek Systems releases as often as possible, in order to keep our testing cycle small, and a strong control over the new features/bugs, and the parts of the...
I have a couple of people in my team who keep coming back to the "why should I waste time unit testing getters and setters?" I can only keep repeating the...
Not sure if this helps Greg, but it's a long time since I wrote a test that just gets and sets a value. Sure, you shouldn't write an accessor without being...
Two thoughts: As I understand it (and correct me if I'm wrong) Kent Beck and TDD says that before writing any code it must have a test. His idea that is that...
You're definitely right about the definition of TDD, but TDD and unit tests are not *necessarily* the same practice. Though TDD gives unit tests, lots of teams...
Hi all, I'm looking to get one of Europe's foremost XP and Scrum experts out to Australia to share some of his wisdom with us in February. The catch is that he...
Yes - agree that there is a difference between TDD and Unit Testing. But what concerns do people have with TDD? In terms of BDD, isn't every exposed property...
Concerns with TDD? Fundamentally people will assert that it can't work, and in particular that it will lead to locally optimal designs. The next assertion is...
... At Monash, where I'm having to do beginner Java subjects, I notice that they usually ask us to put getters and setters on *everything*. I'm pretty sure ...
Just to clarify: the individual I am talking about is Joseph Pelrine. You can find out more at: www.metaprog.com Cheers, Rowan. ... Rowan Bunning Certified...
Hi folks Thanks again to IBS for hosting our recent discussion of estimation. So what shall we do next meeting (12 Dec.)? It has been a while since we did an...
How about Agile development impact on development team structure. How Agile development has rendered certain roles "obsolete" by bypassing for example System ...
