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Hello everybody!
I tried to see the profiles of all of you and get some sense of the
types of folk in this group so here are a few words about me: my name
is Kristina and I'm 28. I study anthropology at Ohio University and
expect to graduate by 2004...my real love is actually biological
anthropology and you might think I've got the group wrong but since
I'm planning on returning to Europe for my masters (and maybe doc's)
work I feel that I need to keep up with all the updates in physical
(and related) anthropological discpiplines. So here I am. I admit I
have not much to offer in terms of academic knowledge or experience
so this will be (if you forgive me) a bit parasitical of me. I am
interested in finding out as much as possible and feel that one way
of accomplishing that is by being part of this kinds of groups.
Looking forward to learning (and upgrading) of new stuff! Best wishes,
Kristina
P.S. As for my location (in the profile) I am born and bred
Macedonian but I'm doing my studies in Ohio and in September I'm
starting with a year of exchange studies in Denmark.
Dear Natasja, how are u?
I am archaeologist from Macedonia and I am also
interested for messolithic. So feel free to send me a
message on my privat mail (and not onli u)if u want to
talk about it.
Regrets
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hi all,
let me start by introducing myself, cos i only joined this list about
2 weeks ago. i am an archaeologist from the Netherlands and i just
finished an excavation in Amersfoort, which is in the middle of the
country.
what we found there was mainly from the iron age, we found 3 houses
and about 19 little storage houses. what we also found was a number
of dicolourations in the ground, blueish grey in colour, with
charcoal in it. the soil consists of sand that was blown here, from
the north, during the last ice age. the theory about these
discolourations in the ground is, that they are little fireplaces,
left there by little groups of hunters, during the mesolithic.
i know that from other places near Amersfoort there are a few feature
known that look similar to these, but they contained flint. the only
piece of flint we found so far is a little drill, about 3 cm long,
with a nice retouch.
ok, so my question is: is there anyone here who can shed some light
on these features? we did take charcoal samples for radiocarbon
dating, but we have to wait for funding before we can send them to
the lab.
i hope someone can help me with this,
greetings,
Natasja.
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My apologies for taking so long to reply to your
inquiry. The summer is a busy time for archaeologists, so
I have been away from the computer, blissfully
digging away. Presently I am at a conference, and am
regretting every moment of it !<br><br>The canine burial is
indeed that of a domestic dog. Inhumations of dogs have
now been documented throughout South Scandinavia in
the later Mesolithic, and it seems that the grave
goods accompanying these creatures often are more
elaborate than those associated with humans. Humans and
dogs are, however, never encountered together in the
same grave.<br><br>Whether dogs represented pets,
revered hunting companions, or perhaps had a peculiar
symbolic role in the society, is currently unknown. My
best guess at the moment is that the dogs were
accorded burial for all these reasons.<br><br>I hope that
these comments interest you. Forgive me if it takes a
while for my next reply, as I am off digging next week
(thank God !). Do feel free to email me at
stenaldermanden@... if you need any more information.<br><br><br>With
Best Regards,<br><br><br>Kristian
I meant to refer to Skateholm grave 23 and not
Stockholm grave 23 (if there is such a thing). I'm sorry
for the confusion, but my questions still stand.
Thanks again.<br><br> Gut Shabbes,<br> Gamliel
Are those the remains of a domesticated animal in
Stockholm grave 23 (canine?)? If so, were they a companion
to a human occupant? Or, were they buried
seperately? If seperately, what are the implications re:
Mesolithic culture in S. Sweden?<br>If you have answers or
comments please leave me a message.
Thanks.<br><br> Shalom,<br> Gamliel
Dear Paul,<br><br>Thank you very much for your
reply. The Mesolithic is sometimes difficult to descry
through field-walking, but I am certain that you shall
ultimately stumble upon a nice lithic scatter. Walking in
the Pennines, and much of the moorland, usually
provides a large assortment of Mesolithic lithic material.
Unfortunately, once excavations commence, there is little if any
organic material; moreover, features are a rarity. These
circumstances represent serious encumbrances to our
understanding of the British Mesolithic.<br><br>This is largely
why the excavations conducted in the Vale of
Pickering (Yorkshire) are so important in the discussion of
the English Mesolithic. The site of Star Carr
afforded copious quantities of organic remains, which
permitted the reconstruction of the subsistence economy of
the hunter-gatherers immediately after the conclusion
of the last glacial cycle. Still, the only feature
to be encountered at Star Carr was a wooden platform
extending out into the prehistoric lake, discovered during
the most recent excavations of the site. An
appreciation of site infrastructure—that is, infrastructure
descried apart from patterns in lithic scatters—eludes us
entirely.<br><br>The excavations around fossil lake Flixton have
attempted to place Star Carr in a regional context. The
curious thing, however, is that Star Carr appears ever
more peculiar as a result of these excavations.
Despite the propitious conditions of preservation at many
of the sites, harpoons, stag-antler frontlets, etc.
have not been recovered. <br><br>The pollen-analytical
studies undertaken immediately adjacent to the site of
Star Carr has demonstrated that the reed swamp was
burned routinely. This practice is well documented in
the later Mesolithic of Britain, particularly in the
upland regions, so the demonstration of burning in
lowland environs is something of a revelation. It seems
that the vegetation was burned principally to attract
browsing ungulates, and render hunting easier. Of course,
we cannot rule out that the burning of vegetation
might also have been undertaken to provide a clearer
view, make movement around the settlements easier, or
to promote vegetal growth. In short, the lifestyle
of Mesolithic hunters in England was far more
complex than had previously been supposed, and suggested
by the rather facile models of archaeologists,
employing models borrowed from
ethnography.<br><br><br>Kristian
Congratulations on the brave attempt to bring the
mesolithic to the Internet audience. I can see the value of
a website devoted to the mesolithic. Although my
amateur surveys bring me mainly into contact with lithics
of the Neolithic through to the Iron Ages, I am
fascinated by the 'Middle Stone Age' - the age of the last
hunter-gatherers of the north-west fringes of Europe.<br> I very
rarely find microliths, although I frequently come
across tantalizing patinated blades and micro-blades,
with no retouch. This is despite the fact that most of
my fieldwork has taken place in the Brecks of East
Anglia, in which a number of microlith collection points
were established by the old flinters in C19/C20.
Excavations at my work place at Two Mile Bottom, Thetford,
and on the edge of my housing estate in Thetford,
have both produced mesolithic flint-working sites. The
Brecks consist of light free-draining sandy soils, that
during the later mesolithic, may have hosted light tree
cover, adjacent to the Fen edge.<br> Despite this
potential, I have so far only retrieved one true microlith
(later meso) during my fieldwalk surveys in the Brecks.
Surprisingly, I recovered another on a fieldwalk on the heavy
clay soils of Mid-Norfolk - an area less associated
with prehistory than the Brecks.<br> Your photos of
mesolithic burials are wonderful - I assume that Denmark has
greater skeletal evidence of the meso than the UK? A
question Kristian, how much can you so far describe the
life-styles of your Yorkshire earlier meso people based on
archaeological/anthropological evidence?<br>Paul<br>My website:
<a href=http://www.harnser.fsnet.co.uk/
target=new>http://www.harnser.fsnet.co.uk/</a>
Thanks for joining Edwardsdad, and I wish to
welcome you to this club. The Mesolithic is my principal
interest, but I also dabble in the Late Palaeolithic and
the Neolithic. It seems that once lithics cease being
manufactured in any large quantities, my interest in the
episode wanes !<br><br>I do believe that the quality of
life amongst Mesolithic hunters was quite good. Most
of my work is undertaken in South Scandinavia, and
the Mesolithic cemeteries from this region afford
good evidence of healthy people, living well into
advanced middle age. On the other hand, we must recall
that South Scandinavia is not necessarily
representative of all of northwestern Europe; moreover, the late
Mesolithic, whence these cemeteries date, undoubtedly
afforded more propitious conditions for settlement than
the earlier Mesolithic. My work in Yorkshire leaves
me with the distinct impression that the earlier
Mesolithic hunters were not as affluent as those of the
later Mesolithic in Scandinavia. Nevertheless, we might
easily be mislead by the size of settlements—the lack of
overt settlements easily evokes the antiquated image of
peripatetic hunter-gatherers, barely managing an existence. I
am inclined to believe that the life of Mesolithic
hunters was much better than we commonly
suppose.<br><br>Some idle thoughts !
Hi just posting an introduction to myself. My
name is Paul, and I enjoy carrying out field-survey in
East Anglia, SE Britain. My favourite periods are meso
through to BA. You can visit my website called Thetford
Forest Archaeology by clicking on:
<a href=http://www.harnser.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm.
target=new>http://www.harnser.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm.</a> So, to start things
off, did meso
hunter-gatherers enjoy a good quality lifestyle, or not?
Should you visit this club, please do take the time to join, so that membership
might increase and we might collectively promote the study of the European
Mesolithic.
This evening, I added some more images to the
gallery of photographs concerning Mesolithic burial
features. The only images so far added are those from South
Scandinavia, but as I scan others, I shall include them.
Should anyone to choose to join this group (!), please
feel free to add images. I find that many images that
pertain to Mesolithic finds are difficult to locate, so I
hoped that we might collect some images at a single
place on the Internet for the sake of convenience.
I recently purchase a book entitled ‘The
Archaeology of Death and Burial’ by Michael Parker Pearson.
This book contained some references to Mesolithic
mortuary customs, chiefly the Danish material from Vedbæk
Bøgebakken.
I wish to welcome those that have kindly joined
the Mesolithic Europe chat group here at Yahoo!. The
group is intended to promote the discussion and
knowledge of the European Mesolithic, which has
traditionally been perhaps the most neglected prehistoric
cultural epoch. Please do not interpret the boundaries of
the Mesolithic too strictly—discussion pertaining to
the Late Palaeolithic and the Early Neolithic is
relevant, and most welcome. <br><br>Do also feel free to
post images of artefacts, burials, C-14 charts, or
whatever else that you might think would be of interest to
those visiting this site.