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#175 From: ROBERT PATRICK MCDAVITT <bobmcd@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:18 am
Subject: Last chance for comment- draft of Met Society submission to Crown Research Institute Taskforce.
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our President: Kim Dirks [k.dirks@...]
BEFORE 5pm TODAY 30 Nov 2009



SUBMISSION
TO THE CROWN RESEARCH INSTITUTE TASKFORCE

FROM
THE METEOROLOGICAL SOCIETY OF NEW ZEALAND


BACKGROUND

The
Meteorological Society of New Zealand (MSNZ) is an independent group which
encourages an interest in the atmosphere, weather and climate, particularly as
related to the New Zealand region. The membership is diverse, including
researchers in CRIs, other
Government-funded institutions, and universities; policy analysts, consultants,
and those in the private sector.
MSNZ
has pro-actively commented on the state of the New Zealand science system over
many years, in relation to weather and climate science and forecasting. We are
encouraged that the Government has initiated a review of CRI function, as we
feel there are a number of issues that need to be addressed. However, the short
time frame for submissions, and for the review, suggest that any changes will
not be thoroughgoing, and may not be able to properly address some of the
fundamental issues within the New Zealand science system. This brief submission
addresses the key questions put forward in the request for feedback.


1.  THE SCOPE AND CORE PURPOSE OF CRIs
The
scope and core purpose of the CRIs is laid out in the CRI Act. An over-arching
function
of CRIs is to “Develop and maintain research capabilities and to undertake
research.”  This implies the maintenance
and development of science team capabilities, national and international
collaboration, and the pursuit of science excellence. CRIs are also set up as
companies, and are required to deliver a return to Government on their
investment.
We
feel that the core focus on science needs to be reaffirmed, while at the same
time recognising that financial goals must remain prominent. In our view, many
of the tensions that have developed in the New Zealand science system over the
past two decades are associated with the “corporatisation” of science, and
the
introduction of a competitive model to an area of endeavour that is essentially
collaborative.
For
example, applications for public funding in New Zealand have around a 10% chance
of success. This is an extraordinarily low rate of success by any international
standard (NIH, NSF in the USA run at between 25% and 40%:
dellweb.bfa.nsf.gov/awdfr3/default.asp). Levels of
scientific achievement and productivity have suffered (especially in CRIs)
because
senior scientists must devote a significant fraction of their time to writing
proposals, and on related accountability reporting.

We
believe there is a need for clarification of the purpose of CRIs, and for a
reduction in the contestability of science funding in New Zealand.
The establishment of negotiated funding, increases in capability funding, and
the concept of research “platforms” are steps in this direction. However, we
suggest a significant level (on the order of 40-50%) of base (or “bulk”)
funding is appropriate for all CRIs, as recommended in a 2007 OECD report on
New Zealand’s innovation policy1.
Such a move would enhance flexibility, reduce tensions around collaboration
between CRIs, universities and other organisations, and would add stability to
science career structures.


2.  GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY
As
noted above, the OECD recommended that we should reduce our over-reliance on
competitive bidding and give CRIs core funding of one half to one third of
revenue. With the present competitive model comes a heavy reliance on
accountability, with inevitable overheads and impacts upon productivity. Such a
system erodes morale in the scientific workforce, as scientists are forced to
divert their energies away from science itself. More significantly, there is an
implied lack of trust in the level of accountability of the present science
system. For a creative endeavour such as scientific research, such a lack of
trust has a deadening effect.
Science
by its very nature is serendipitous, and some of the most far-reaching and
economically important scientific discoveries have appeared initially to have
no practical application. Obvious examples are: 19th century discoveries around
the nature of electricity and magnetism, which now underpin energy systems in
societies worldwide; and Einstein’s theories of relativity, which now underpin
nuclear
energy and at the same time ensure the accuracy of GPS satellite readings. A
focus on short-term financial benefits, and on-going accountability reporting,
constrains scientific research and misunderstands the nature and value of
science.
Again,
we recommend a significantly-increased level of core funding, and an explicit
increase in the level of trust accorded to CRIs and the research they carry
out. Moreover, it may be useful to ensure that governance structures for CRIs
and their component science teams include those from the science community, as
well as representatives of business, financial and legal communities.


3.  PERFORMANCE MEASURES INCLUDING USE OF
FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES

As
CRIs are essentially companies, financial performance measures are mandatory.
However, under the Act, CRI performance also includes the fostering of
scientific knowledge and the science workforce, plus facilitation of the
application of research, and social dividends. We suggest that such a range of
scientific and social performance measures be considered, and given equal
weight with financial performance. The current requirement for a 9% return on
assets is well above that made by many primary sector industries and other
businesses in New Zealand.



4.  FUNDING
See
comments under (1) and (2).
The current long-term allocation of FRST
funds to CRIs is fixed in that it makes no annual adjustment for inflation of
salary increases. The effect of this is that programmes that are initially set
up to achieve certain objectives must gradually reduce the number of equivalent
full-time hours available to achieve these goals.  Experience of this system is
that rather than
individuals being able to dedicate a significant amount of their time to the
research, their time end up being divided over many programmes or requires them
to take on a considerable amount of commercial work with a corresponding
dilution of their research effort. This leads to a very fragmented workload
and, in many instances, is not conducive to a good, long-term, productive
research career.

5.  ALIGNMENT
Collaboration
is at the core of scientific endeavour, today more than ever. Competitive
funding models act to hinder collaboration, as organisations, including
universities, become increasingly protective of “their” funding. Such
behaviour
is exacerbated by the lack of growth in real terms of overall funding
available, and the fragmentation of funding streams. Despite these issues,
scientific collaboration between CRIs is substantial in many areas of science.
However, this has occurred in spite of the structure of CRIs and the
competitive funding model, not because of it. A reduction in the level of
contestability of funds, and a reduction in the level of detailed
accountability within CRIs, would help foster collaboration and would improve
morale and productivity in the New Zealand science work force.





Dr Kim Dirks
President, Meteorological Society of New Zealand (Inc)
30 November 2009




1.  OECD
Reviews of Innovation Policy: new Zealand; Page 240
      ISBN
978-92-64-03760-1
      Published:
September 2007

#174 From: "bob mcdavitt" <bobmcd@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:51 am
Subject: SUBMISSION TO THE CROWN RESEARCH INSTITUTE TASKFORCE
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The following draft has been prepared by committee member Jim Salinger

The deadline for this submission is fast approaching and  if any members would like to have an input please send it direct to

j.salinger@... and j.renwick@...

 

Ideally before  5pm Tuesday 24 Nov ,  but I think we have an extension to next week, so by the end of the week is OK , thanks.

bobmcd@...  Bob McDavitt, newsletter editor

 

 

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SUBMISSION TO THE CROWN RESEARCH INSTITUTE TASKFORCE

 

 

FROM THE METEOROLOGICAL SOCIETY OF NEW ZEALAND

 

 

BACKGROUND

 

The Meteorological Society of New Zealand (MetSoc) is an independent group of weather and climate scientists and enthusiasts with the stated aim to encourage an interest in the atmosphere, weather and climate, particularly as related to the New Zealand region. It has a widely based membership of 200 from all parts of the meteorology and climate science including scientists, university staff, consultants, policy analysts, and private sector companies. We organise conferences on weather and climate which covers current topics in the meteorological science – the most recent being one on “Oceans and Climate” held at the University of Auckland in August 2009. Proceedings of these meetings are published in our well respected quarterly newsletter.

 

 

INTRODUCTION

 

MetSoc has vigorously written and commented on the state of the New Zealand science system over many years in the media in relation to weather and climate science and forecasting. This submission has been deliberately kept brief, which may have assumed assumptions about CRIs and the 1992 CRI Act. The lack of correct execution of this Act may be a primary reason why outcomes have not been attained.

 

 

1.  THE SCOPE AND CORE PURPOSE OF CRIs

 

The scope and core purpose of the CRIs is laid out in the CRI Act, which was a visionary piece of legislation in the function of CRIs is to “Develop and maintain research capabilities and to undertake research.”  There is thus an emphasis on researching the New Zealand environment, research collaboration, high scientific achievement and improvement of science infrastructure are all decisively important for CRIs main function of increasing the country’s research capacity to benefit New Zealand and protect the New Zealand environment.  

 

Many non-financial indicators have not been achieved because instructions to the CRIs such as NIWA have been from government shareholding ministers via CCMAU has placed a great emphasise on financial performance. This is even seen in today’s recession where a return of 9 percent is an expectation. Science relies on close collaboration and cooperation between CRIs and Universities.      The fact that many of these non-financial indicators have not been achieved is quite simple. Confused messages from government to CRIs through CCMAU and presumably shareholding Ministers has placed an overwhelming emphasis on financial performance. We believe that the core of the problem is the imposition of a corporate model with corporate financial returns for science would be a calamity.

 

Applications for public funding have a 10% chance of success (if we include the screening out that the parent organisation is instructed to carry out by FRST). This is an extraordinarily low rate of success by any international standard (NIH, NSF in the USA run at about 25%). The level of scientific achievement has suffered because of over a decade of the absurdly competitive funding environment. CRIs have tended to use their most senior scientists to write the bids, which has been very damaging on productivity.

 

We believe that there is a need for a clarification of the purpose of individual CRIs as there are significant differences. For example, NIWA gets about 70% of its income from crown or local government sources (PGSF, local authorities, MFish), while ESR gets about 90% of its income from other government departments (Health and Police). GNS does not have the same relationship to a “sector” as does AgResearch. Such differences can surely be taken into account by individual negotiations on each strategic plan with the shareholding Ministers.

 

 

2.  GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY

 

Climate research is long term (5-20 years+) to understand the drivers of climate, change change and its impacts, so it must move towards a strategic end point. However, the Crown must make clear its needs. The 2007 OECD report on New Zealand’s innovation policy, recommended that we should reduce our over reliance on competitive bidding and give CRIs core funding of one half to one third of revenue.  We also wonder whether in the government appointed CRI Boards made up of lawyers, accountants, entrepreneurs, professional directors and occasional scientists are an appropriate mix to account for the demands under the 1992 Act and specifically the appointment of non scientists to lead the CRIs. This is a strange anomaly when compared with scientific institutions elsewhere.

 


 

3.  PERFORMANCE MEASURES INCLUDING USE OF FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES

 

CRIs must have performance measures, but whether the rote adherence to project management of science where projects must produce “profits” and “dividends” is appropriate, when there are a raft of non-financial indicators that are indicative of good performance according to the 1992 Act.

 

Performance also includes job creation, indirect rates of return on investment, social dividends, regional development and facilitation of the application of the results of research and technological development. These performance measures would create a huge behaviour change in CRIs to a more public good role which was always envisaged in the Act.

 

The need to meet the requirement of the Act for an adequate rate of return on shareholder funds led to some curious demands. In the 90’s CCMAU set a reasonable return at the level of 5-year government bonds. This turned out to be higher that the returns being made by the meat, wool and forestry industries served by some CRIs. The recent imposition of 9% dividend on assets would be well in advance of all primary sector industries, and probably of most companies in the current recessionary environment. It would seem sensible to set the requirement more in line with the industries the CRIs are suppose to serve rather than setting up unreasonable “stretch” targets.

 

 

4.  FUNDING

 

The conflict suggested in the question will be solved by accepting the 2007 OECD recommendation to increase core funding of CRIs to one half to one third of revenues, so that there is more stability for the careers of people with essential new skills.

 

5.  ALIGNMENT

 

Currently, despite the obstacles,  there is very substantial collaboration between CRIs and many other agencies. But  there should not be more collaboration. Competition stands in the way with financial pressures on the CRIs. Survivability revolves around competition, and the returns they must achieve are often not compatible with co-operation. The inevitable result of collaborating with another agency rather than going it alone are that there is less profit. That’s not to say that synergies with others may not obtain funds that might not have been achieved alone.

 

CONCLUSION

 

  1. Requirements are adjustments as suggested in this submission to place the correct incentives so that CRIs will be “to produce research and innovation which will accrue to New Zealand’s economy, environment and social development.”
  2. There is not a requirement for large restructuring of CRIs, which would be very disruptive to staff morale and productivity. However, there could be amalgamations.

 

 

 

 

 

Jim Salinger

On behalf of Meteorological Society of New Zealand

 

23 November 2009

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#173 From: "Mike Revell" <m.revell@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:25 am
Subject: Re: Message from AMOS Re: joint conference
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Hi Richard,
 
I raised the issue of the date for a joint meeting at our AGM in anticipation that you would be keen to go ahead. I suggested that we not have a MetSoc conference next year (i.e. November 2010) but instead have it in February 2011 in conjunction with AMOS in Wellington, specific date and site to be decided. It was left to the incoming committee to finalise these. So in answer to your question: yes we could have the joint meeting in February 2011 in Wellington. Do you have an idea how many would come from Australia? I am now the immediate past president, but since I am in Wellington and the new President is in Auckland I suspect I will be quite involved in organising the joint conference.
 
Regards,
Mike.
 
 
 
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  _ \<_  (STREET) NIWA, 301 Evans Bay Parade, Greta Point, W'n
(_)/(_) Telephone: +64 4 386 0328    Fax: +64 4 386 2153
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>>> Richard Wardle <Richard.Wardle@...> 16/11/2009 1:13 p.m. >>>

Hi Mike 

Many apologies for not getting back to you before your AGM. The AMOS executive met and we are keen for a joint conference in New Zealand.

However, we felt that the timing of such a conference would need to be carefully worked out. We traditionally have the AMOS conference at the end of Jan or the start of Feb. Would the NZ MetSoc be willing to move the timing of the conference from Nov to a Jan/Feb 2011 or 2012?

Regards,
Richard

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Dr. Richard Wardle                                
School of Mathematical Sciences
Monash University, Vic 3800  Australia
Tel: +61 (0)3 9905 4411
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On 19/10/2009, at 4:27 PM, Mike Revell wrote:

Hi Richard,

Currently I am the President of NZ MetSoc and yes, this issue has been raised with our own Society and generally favourably for having it in New Zealand. The suggestion of venue was Wellington as that is where most of the NZ scientists are located and keeps our local costs down. Exactly where in Wellington hasn't been decided (Possibly Victoria University or Te Papa) and the time of year has also not been decided. We usually have our meetings in November, but you seem to like to have yours in February. We are having our AGM on Nov 11 so could raise the issue there. Do you have any strong feelings on any of these issues? How many AMOS members are likely to attend? If the meeting were held in Wellington we would probably get 50 to 80 participants.

Let me know what you think.
Regards,
Mike.

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 _ \<_  (STREET) NIWA, 301 Evans Bay Parade, Greta Point, W'n
(_)/(_) Telephone: +64 4 386 0328    Fax: +64 4 386 2153
        email: m.revell@...   web: www.niwa.co.nz


Richard Wardle <Richard.Wardle@...> 10/19/2009 5:17 p.m. >>>

Hi Mike

I am emailing you in my role as the President of the Australian  
Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (AMOS). At our last Council  
meeting an expression of interest was raised as to the possibility of  
a joint conference in 2011.

Could you or the relevant officer  from The Meteorological Society of  
New Zealand please contact me to discuss this matter?

Many Thanks
Regards,
Richard

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Monash University, Vic 3800  Australia
Tel: +61 (0)3 9905 4411
Email: Richard.Wardle@...
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NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd.

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Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: AGM- Met Society, 11/11/2009, 3:00 pm
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