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#3343 From: Paul Sokolovsky <paul-ml@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 9:04 pm
Subject: Re[2]: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Hello Fred,

Fred Christiansen <fred_christiansen@...> wrote:

FC> Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
>> Decision to do the relocation of list to
>> sourceforge was made by current admins of Mingw project, see
>> http://sourceforge.net/mingw/ for who's who.

FC> I 'spect you meant http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw (which is, I see,

     Yes, sorry.

FC> distinct from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwrep ; the mingw32
compiler
FC> vs libraries (et al) compiled with mingw32).

     True too. The latter is simply my personal project, the former is
official Mingw created by Mumit Khan. With luck, mine will become part of
it.

> I note there's also http://mingw.sourceforge.net as well as
> http://mingwrep.sourceforge.net .  The content is different, of course,
> so there's an operational difference.  If one were to be referring a
> colleague to one of the URL's for the mingw32 compiler, why might one
> refer to mingw.sourceforge.net vs sourceforge.net/projects/mingw ?

   URLs starting with http://sourceforge.net/projects/ are standard
SourceForge group pages. From there, services and resources like full
file list, CVS browse, bug and patch tracking, statistics, etc., are
directly accessible. So they are of interest to developers,
contributors or just active users. http://<projname>.sourceforge.net
is project home page which of free form content, usually containg
project information "in plain words", so they are of interest to the
rest of the world. There is also 'www.mingw.org' domain which is
technically alias for mingw.sourceforge.net (but of course, can be
made point somewhere other when needed).

   So, if someone referring colleague to /projects/... one's probably
indirectly motivating him to consider contributing, I guess;
referrence to www.mingw.org doesn't have such connotation ;-)

FC> --
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#3342 From: Fred Christiansen <fred_christiansen@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Difficulty with mkdir.exe (of all things!)
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Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> GC> So I'm guessing that the fileutils manual is wrong. Correct?
> Yes. Use -p flag for that. But note that it might be GNU extension.

It's been around for awhile.  A book I have from 1989, supposedly
documenting AT&T SVR3 and BSD 4.3 don't show it.  I seem to recall using
it in the early 90's, at least with SVR4.

This effect is not clearly documented in Linux, nor in Solaris, but is
doc'd on HP-UX.
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#3341 From: zaqhaq@...
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: Video for windows
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--- In mingw32@egroups.com, "Jose Fonseca" <em96115@f...> wrote:

> The VFW32 import library is wrong. The original VFW32.LIB refers to
three
> DLLs: MSVFW32.DLL, AVIFIL32.DLL and AVICAP32.DLL, and not the
nonexistent
> VFW32.DLL. I've out in the zip the corresponding DEF files (made
with
> reimp), and a import library made by extracting and merging the
objects from
> the three import libraries.

Thanks!
I still do not understand exactly how you did it but it seems to work
except for the VideoForWindowsVersion function. The error seems to be
in the last line of MSVFW32.def. It is
_VideoForWindowsVersion@0       @2
but should be
VideoForWindowsVersion@0

Sometimes does reimp leaves garbage like that.

Peter

#3340 From: zaqhaq@...
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Video for windows
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--- In mingw32@egroups.com, Franco Bez <franco.bez@g...> wrote:

> >typedef struct
> >  {
> >      BYTE  bFirstEntry;  /* first entry to change */
> >      BYTE  bNumEntries;  /* # entries to change (0 if
> >256) */
> >      WORD  wFlags;   /* Mostly to preserve
> >alignment... */
> >      PALETTEENTRY peNew[];  /* New color specifications */
> >} AVIPALCHANGE;
> >The problem is that peNew does not have a fixed number of elements.
>
> Where's the problem - many Windows structs are similar.
>
> >How can this be translated to something that gcc accepts?
>
> gcc should accept that, but you can always try to replace
What version of gcc do you use?
At least 2.95.2 gives an "uncompleted datatype" error.

> PALETTEENTRY peNew[];  with
> PALETTEENTRY *peNew;
Would it work if I set the number of elements "big enough" ?

Peter

#3339 From: "Paul Moore" <gustav@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 7:59 pm
Subject: RE: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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From: David Jeske [mailto:jeske@...]
> As a mingw32 user and a long-time member of the engineering team here
> at eGroups, I figured I'd speak up and say hello.

Thanks for the comments. Just out of curiosity, why are the ads at the top
on the mingw list now? Other egroups lists I am on have them at the bottom.
Frankly, the ads at the top is enough to make me want to move, if I were the
one making the decision. They are just too obtrusive. Ads at the bottom are
fine, and seem a reasonable way of supporting a free mailing list. But at
the top distracts too much from the content.

If mingw were staying with Egroups, I'd start looking for a way of
automatically filtering the ads now that they are at the top - this seems to
me to defeat the object....

Paul.

#3338 From: "dale henderson" <dalekh@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Thanks to Earnie for taking care of the move. It was good fun to
see the member list grow over the past year and to participate as a
moderator.


Dale

#3337 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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--- Fred Christiansen <fred_christiansen@...> wrote:
>
> If one were to be referring a
> colleague to one of the URL's for the mingw32 compiler, why might one
> refer to mingw.sourceforge.net vs sourceforge.net/projects/mingw ?

If I were referring someone to MinGW I would send them to http://www.mingw.org.

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#3336 From: Fred Christiansen <fred_christiansen@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Fred Christiansen wrote:
> I 'spect you meant http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw (which is, I see,
> distinct from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwrep ; mingw32 compiler
> vs libraries (et al) compiled with mingw32).

I note there's also http://mingw.sourceforge.net as well as
http://mingwrep.sourceforge.net .  The content is different, of course,
so there's an operational difference.  If one were to be referring a
colleague to one of the URL's for the mingw32 compiler, why might one
refer to mingw.sourceforge.net vs sourceforge.net/projects/mingw ?
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#3335 From: Fred Christiansen <fred_christiansen@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> Decision to do the relocation of list to
> sourceforge was made by current admins of Mingw project, see
> http://sourceforge.net/mingw/ for who's who.

I 'spect you meant http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw (which is, I see,
distinct from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwrep ; the mingw32 compiler
vs libraries (et al) compiled with mingw32).
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#3334 From: Paul Sokolovsky <paul-ml@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 5:51 pm
Subject: Re[2]: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Hello Paul,

Paul Selormey <paul@...> wrote:


PS> Hello,

>> I've contemplated moving the list for more than six months.  It makes
PS> since to
>> have it with the web site.  And the move of the flashing banners to the
PS> top of
>> the mail just aggrevates me enough to finally do it.

PS> Since you are not the only one using the list, is it not better to ask how
PS> others
PS> feel about it?
PS> The flexibility eGroups offers makes me like it, banners or not. After all,
PS> they
PS> need to survive too, and pay their bills.

     Just to make point more clear: Earnie Boyd and Dale Handerson are
"owners" (in eGroups terms) of current maillist. They are persons in
position to start such move. Decision to do the relocation of list to
sourceforge was made by current admins of Mingw project, see
http://sourceforge.net/mingw/ for who's who. Since relocation will be
transparent for subscribers, I see no grounds for discontent.

     As for eGroups, it does great job for allowing people easily start
their discussion forums, and we used their services for a long time
with appreciation. However, now we are reaching the new level and
having more freedom and control (that's what SourceForge gives) will
be benificial.

     For last, about features SF maillist will have. List will be run
by GNU Mailman. It offers all usual majordomo capabilities, such as
immediate/digested delivery, pause, etc. What it does not offer (at least
AFAIK) is web-based access (to list's messages, I mean). However,
that's not problem since list will archived by www.geocrawler.com . The
latter should have web-posting ability too, I believe.

     So, there's hardly be any feature lacking with new maillist, and
most people probably simply won't notice movement at all ;-)


      Last note about Mingw project itself: its our project, and won't
run without our own attention. So, everyone is welcome. If you have
some ideas how to make Mingw live and develop, and going to spend time
on this, send mail to Earnie Boyd or just post here (well, there - to
new maillist ;-) ). Even if you just spotted bug or made little patch
which allowed for more smooth compilation, please consider spending
couple of minutes to post it in appropriate project section at SF (Well,
to be precise, we didn't discussed precise bug/patch flow procedure,
so any comments welcome).


PS> Regards,
PS> Paul.


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#3333 From: Franco Bez <franco.bez@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] _TrackMouseEvent
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Am Mit, 06 Sep 2000 schrieb Erik Corry:
>Hi
>
>I'm trying to link a program to _TrackMouseEvent
>which is described on
>
< --- snip -- >
>_TrackMouseEvent is part of comctrl32.dll, which is in my link
>line.  I checked with objdump --all-headers, and it appears
>that the function is present in my copy of the DLL.

< -- snip --->

>But when I try to link, I get an error with 'undefined reference
>to _TrackMouseEvent@4'.

The function is in the DLL - OK. But is it also in the Import Library ?

Maybe You should recreate the import-lib from the DLL on your System.

Ciao,
   Franco

#3332 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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--- "John F. Masinter" <john@...> wrote:
> Paul Selormey wrote:
> > The flexibility eGroups offers makes me like it, banners or not.
>
> I run several mail lists. An important issue to consider is the
> the time it will require to keep the list running. The list should
> not take a step backwards because of this--

1) It should not require any more time to run the new list.
2) The GNU Mailman gives me greater administrative control.

> the new list should offer all of the functionality of eGroups. Otherwise, the
> membership will see this move as having personal motivations rather than the
> good of the group at heart.

1) Members can receive individual mails, digests and view the archives online.
    However, a member does not have an option of not receiving the mail.
2) Non-members will be able to post and view the archives online.
    I will allow Non-members to post.

>
> Surely the natural progression of any large organization is to bring
> mail list management in-house for better control and flexibility.
> Are we now of that size?
>

We are currently ~444 members strong.

> Is there enough volunteer time to handle this without decreasing activity in
> other areas?

The current administration is a total of 2 persons.  The new list will be 3
persons.  The amount of time to administrate once setup should be minimal.

> These are the questions that should be addressed when attempting to achieve
> a mutually agreeable decision that will serve the entire membership.
>

Of the persons who had set "Web Viewing Only" those will be the ones that would
not have joined if they weren't forced to.  I have no idea of the number of
those persons.  Since non-members can view the archives and post this will
serve the same as what they are getting now.

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#3331 From: David Jeske <jeske@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Hey all,

As a mingw32 user and a long-time member of the engineering team here
at eGroups, I figured I'd speak up and say hello.

On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 12:48:59AM +0900, Paul Selormey wrote:
> How come this never came with the banner? Some tricks there?

Sometimes there is no banner ad to serve so you just get lucky.

> Surely the natural progression of any large organization is to bring
> mail list management in-house for better control and flexibility.
> Are we now of that size? Is there enough volunteer time to handle this
> without decreasing activity in other areas? These are the questions
> that should be addressed when attempting to achieve a mutually agreeable
> decision that will serve the entire membership.

If you do end up moving the list for better control and flexibility,
I'd be interseted to know the specifics. It's one of my personal goals
to have our product be better than running a mailing list on your own
machine. That goal is some of the motivation behind the Activity
logging, and the up-and-coming web/email traffic graphs.

Of course we understand not everyone is willing to use an advertising
supported service, so if the banners are your primary motivation I
understand. In case you didn't know, we do have an option to pay-for
no ads. It's about $60 per group for a year of no-ads.

This is now sounding too much like some sales pitch so I'll have to
stop before someone revokes my engineering skills.

P.S. Mingw32 is great stuff. I hope to get my DirectDraw game engine
compiling with it someday soon.

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#3330 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] socket subsystem
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--- Rob Lebowitz <lebowitz@...> wrote:
> Is there a POSIX socket library available for use with mingw32?  I'm trying
> to port rsync but am having no luck because of the lack of socket related
> stuff..
>

AFAIK, you'll have to convert to Windows Sockets.

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#3329 From: "Rob Lebowitz" <lebowitz@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 4:36 pm
Subject: socket subsystem
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Is there a POSIX socket library available for use with mingw32?  I'm trying
to port rsync but am having no luck because of the lack of socket related
stuff..

Rob

#3328 From: "Paul Selormey" <paul@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Hello,
How come this never came with the banner? Some tricks there?

Regards,
Paul.

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From: "John F. Masinter" <john@...>
To: <mingw32@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.


> Paul Selormey wrote:
> > The flexibility eGroups offers makes me like it, banners or not.
>
> I run several mail lists. An important issue to consider is the
> the time it will require to keep the list running. The list should
> not take a step backwards because of this--the new list should offer
> all of the functionality of eGroups. Otherwise, the membership will
> see this move as having personal motivations rather than the good
> of the group at heart.
>
> Surely the natural progression of any large organization is to bring
> mail list management in-house for better control and flexibility.
> Are we now of that size? Is there enough volunteer time to handle this
> without decreasing activity in other areas? These are the questions
> that should be addressed when attempting to achieve a mutually agreeable
> decision that will serve the entire membership.
>
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#3327 From: "John F. Masinter" <john@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
> The flexibility eGroups offers makes me like it, banners or not.

I run several mail lists. An important issue to consider is the
the time it will require to keep the list running. The list should
not take a step backwards because of this--the new list should offer
all of the functionality of eGroups. Otherwise, the membership will
see this move as having personal motivations rather than the good
of the group at heart.

Surely the natural progression of any large organization is to bring
mail list management in-house for better control and flexibility.
Are we now of that size? Is there enough volunteer time to handle this
without decreasing activity in other areas? These are the questions
that should be addressed when attempting to achieve a mutually agreeable
decision that will serve the entire membership.

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#3326 From: Erik Corry <corry@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 3:28 pm
Subject: _TrackMouseEvent
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Hi

I'm trying to link a program to _TrackMouseEvent
which is described on

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winui/mousinpt_0buc.htm

It's not the same call as TrackMouseEvent, which is described
on

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winui/mousinpt_9gxg.htm

_TrackMouseEvent is part of comctrl32.dll, which is in my link
line.  I checked with objdump --all-headers, and it appears
that the function is present in my copy of the DLL.  This
command writes out symbol names without _ and @n but of course
_TrackMouseEvent still has an underscore since it is part of the
name proper.

But when I try to link, I get an error with 'undefined reference
to _TrackMouseEvent@4'.

Am I using the right option to objdump?  It was the only one I
could get to tell me the symbols exported, but it doesn't give
the @4 bit so I can't tell whether the parameter number is right.
However I can see from .h files on a VC++ machine that it has
1 parameter, in fact it seems to have the same type as
TrackMouseEvent.

Here's how I try to call it:

extern BOOL WINAPI _TrackMouseEvent(LPTRACKMOUSEEVENT x);

BOOL
betaTrackMouseEvent(void *x)
{
   return _TrackMouseEvent(x);
}

Could it be that ld is stripping both of the _'s from the
start?  I checked my .obj file with objdump --syms and it
reported __TrackMouseEvent@4 as one of the symbols as I
would expect.

Any ideas?

I'm using the 2.95.2 release of course, on NT4, with SP5
AFAIK.

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#3325 From: "Paul Selormey" <paul@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Hello,

> I've contemplated moving the list for more than six months.  It makes
since to
> have it with the web site.  And the move of the flashing banners to the
top of
> the mail just aggrevates me enough to finally do it.

Since you are not the only one using the list, is it not better to ask how
others
feel about it?
The flexibility eGroups offers makes me like it, banners or not. After all,
they
need to survive too, and pay their bills.

Regards,
Paul.

#3324 From: "Patrick Hubers" <phubers@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 12:16 pm
Subject: RE: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Earnie Boyd wrote:

> I've contemplated moving the list for more than six months.  It
> makes since to
> have it with the web site.  And the move of the flashing banners
> to the top of
> the mail just aggrevates me enough to finally do it.

Hmm, yes. I almost forgot that the Mingw site moved there too. But moving
the list just because of the ad banners seemed like overkill to me. More
hassle than it would be worth. But I see your point. Thanks.

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#3323 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 11:47 am
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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--- Hervé PARISSI <hparissi@...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Hubers" <phubers@...>
> To: <mingw32@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
>
>
>
> ^
> |
> For *that* reason, maybe ?
>

If you mean the ADVERTISEMENT banner, yes it is one of the reasons.

> > Just curious: why is the list being moved?
>

I've contemplated moving the list for more than six months.  It makes since to
have it with the web site.  And the move of the flashing banners to the top of
the mail just aggrevates me enough to finally do it.

Cheers,

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#3322 From: Hervé PARISSI <hparissi@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 7:53 am
Subject: Re: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Hubers" <phubers@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.



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For *that* reason, maybe ?

> Just curious: why is the list being moved?

#3321 From: "Patrick Hubers" <phubers@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2000 7:49 am
Subject: RE: [mingw] Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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Just curious: why is the list being moved?

Earnie Boyd wrote:

...
> Not before 17:00 EDT on Wednesday, September 5th, I will move this list to
> mingw-users@....  You do not need to register at
> mingw-users@..., I will add your name.  At the
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#3320 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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I have reset all subscribers to individual email in order to be certain that
all of you have this notice.

Not before 17:00 EDT on Wednesday, September 5th, I will move this list to
mingw-users@....  You do not need to register at
mingw-users@..., I will add your name.  At the same time I
will update each account at mingw32@egroups.com to not receive any mail and
adjust that list so that posters receive an automatic notice about the move.

TIA,
Earnie.

--- Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...> wrote:
> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
> Subject: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
> To: mingw32@egroups.com
>
> I will in the near furture move this list to
> mingw-users@....
>  I should be able to add all current subscribers, however, the mode will be
> to
> receive individual mails.  When I move the list you will receive a
> confirmation
> from mingw-users@... giving you a user password which you
> can
> then change.  At that time you'll want to check the method of mail delivery
> as
> everyone will be set to receive individual mails.
>
> If you do not wish to be moved, then unsubscribe from this list today.
>
> Cheers,
>
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#3319 From: "Herbert CHANFAYE" <herbert@...>
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 9:10 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Can you stop sending me email ?
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#3318 From: "Jose Fonseca" <em96115@...>
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Video for windows
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <mingw32@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:25 PM
Subject: [mingw] Video for windows


>
> Mingw32 already has import libraries for "video for windows"
> but libvfw32.a is broken. It tries to link to vfw32.dll but no such
> file exists instead should it link to 3 different dlls.
> How do I create a import library for several dlls?
>
> Another problem is this in the header files:
> typedef struct
>

>       BYTE bFirstEntry; /* first entry to change */
>       BYTE bNumEntries; /* # entries to change (0 if
> 256) */
>       WORD wFlags; /* Mostly to preserve
> alignment... */
>       PALETTEENTRY peNew[]; /* New color specifications */
> } AVIPALCHANGE;
> The problem is that peNew does not have a fixed number of elements.
> How can this be translated to something that gcc accepts?
>
> Peter
>

The VFW32 import library is wrong. The original VFW32.LIB refers to three
DLLs: MSVFW32.DLL, AVIFIL32.DLL and AVICAP32.DLL, and not the nonexistent
VFW32.DLL. I've out in the zip the corresponding DEF files (made with
reimp), and a import library made by extracting and merging the objects from
the three import libraries.

     José Fonseca

#3317 From: Franco Bez <franco.bez@...>
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Video for windows
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Am Die, 05 Sep 2000 schrieb zaqhaq@...:

>Mingw32 already has import libraries for "video for windows"
>but libvfw32.a is broken. It tries to link to vfw32.dll but no such
>file exists instead should it link to 3 different dlls.
>How do I create a import library for several dlls?

There's no real need for this, You can always link to all three importlibs.

try
ar --help

There's one command for extracting, and one for adding object files from/to lib
(.a) files. Extract all objects from two of the libs, and add them to the
third. This should be the implib you need.


>Another problem is this in the header files:
>typedef struct
>  {
>      BYTE  bFirstEntry;  /* first entry to change */
>      BYTE  bNumEntries;  /* # entries to change (0 if
>256) */
>      WORD  wFlags;   /* Mostly to preserve
>alignment... */
>      PALETTEENTRY peNew[];  /* New color specifications */
>} AVIPALCHANGE;
>The problem is that peNew does not have a fixed number of elements.

Where's the problem - many Windows structs are similar.

>How can this be translated to something that gcc accepts?

gcc should accept that, but you can always try to replace
PALETTEENTRY peNew[];  with
PALETTEENTRY *peNew;

>Peter

Ciao,
   Franco

#3316 From: zaqhaq@...
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 4:25 pm
Subject: Video for windows
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Mingw32 already has import libraries for "video for windows"
but libvfw32.a is broken. It tries to link to vfw32.dll but no such
file exists instead should it link to 3 different dlls.
How do I create a import library for several dlls?

Another problem is this in the header files:
typedef struct
   {
       BYTE  bFirstEntry;  /* first entry to change */
       BYTE  bNumEntries;  /* # entries to change (0 if
256) */
       WORD  wFlags;   /* Mostly to preserve
alignment... */
       PALETTEENTRY peNew[];  /* New color specifications */
} AVIPALCHANGE;
The problem is that peNew does not have a fixed number of elements.
How can this be translated to something that gcc accepts?

Peter

#3315 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 1:16 pm
Subject: **PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT** Mail list move.
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I will in the near furture move this list to mingw-users@....
  I should be able to add all current subscribers, however, the mode will be to
receive individual mails.  When I move the list you will receive a confirmation
from mingw-users@... giving you a user password which you can
then change.  At that time you'll want to check the method of mail delivery as
everyone will be set to receive individual mails.

If you do not wish to be moved, then unsubscribe from this list today.

Cheers,

=====
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#3314 From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@...>
Date: Tue Sep 5, 2000 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [mingw] Borland Free Compiler
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This discussion is not relative to MinGW, please move it offline.

Cheers,
Earnie.
--- Neil Hodgson <nhodgson@...> wrote:
> > But that little Makefile doesn't work.
> > ...
> > theo.exe : hello.obj foo.obj Makefile
> > ilink32 hello.obj foo.obj, theo.exe, ,$(LINKLIBS)
>
>    I assume this is the rule that breaks. You will need a startup module, I
> think:
>
> LD=ilink32
> LDFLAGS=
> LIBS=import32 cw32mt
> $(PROG): $(OBJS) SciTERes.res
>  $(LD) $(LDFLAGS) -Tpe -aa -Gn -x c0w32 $(OBJS), $@, ,$(LIBS), ,
> SciTERes.res
>
>   -Tpe = make an exe
>   c0w32 = add in the normal windows startup
>   cw32mt = multi thread enabled run time library
>
>    I have attached a whole makefile I use in case there are some other
> settings.
>
>    Neil
>
>

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=makefile_bor



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