Hi all.  I have a bunch of mkv video files I'd like to convert to mp3.  I
installed the combined community kodek pack and I can play back mkv videos.
However, I can't convert them to mp3.  I've tried gold wave, sound forge,
and it just crashes them.



So I thought I would convert the videos to a supported format and then batch
convert them to mp3.  It's a bit of a round about way to do it but it would
get the job done.



However, I can't seem to find a freeware video format converter that is
accessible.



I've tried any video converter and avidimux but no luck.



Any suggestions?



Thanks,



Cameron.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hey all!  thanks for all the suggestions on the problem i was having with a
mix a couple weeks ago!  sorry i didn't respond..... just work and recording
has been silly hectic lately.

we were a little crunched on time so we didn't get into trying to separate
the bass track into high and low tracks so they could be conditioned
separately.  but that is a REALLY good idea.

it ended up that he was cutting EVERYTHING in the 5k range (i think..... i'm
NOT an engineer) on the bass track to make room for the synth and vocals and
hi hats.  so we bumped that up, took some compression off and got it where
i'm pretty happy with it.  i don't LOVE it...... but it was a guy that was
cheaper 'cause he's not super experienced.

we have three tracks up at http://www.myspace.com/nosebleedacademy .

again.... i think they would benefit from a more experienced hand working on
them.... and i can hear a couple little mistakes on the bass that should be
corrected, but i like how they came out for the amount of time we had to
spend on them.

thanks again for all the help!  good stuff!

-0behn desu0-


On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Robert G. Ferrell <rgferrell@...>wrote:

>
>
> Gary Benny wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Not to be overly simplistic, but volume envelopes do wonders to even out
> a track. You can even clone the track to spit-out the areas that are high or
> low - have different characteristics - build your envelopes, then apply
> different eq to the separate tracks if necessary.
> >
> > I'm definitely no great engineer, but using volume envelopes seems to
> work really well for me.
> >
>
> I find envelopes to be extremely useful, as well.
>
> RGF
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi.  everything is thirty two bit here for the time being, but thanks for
the suggestion.



Cameron.











From: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mixmasters@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of bass_boy_pro
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:12 AM
To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mixmasters] Re: still missing plugs and virtual instruments after
clean install of Sonar 5.1PE






I have been whatching this and it seems that you are doing eveerything I
could think of other than 1 thing.

What OS bit are you running? 32bit or 64bit. I had a problem with cubase not
seeing all of my vst's. When I went back through my vst installs, they were
installed most of the time in the x86 program folder and my Cubase was
looking for them in the program folder, which is for 64bit files. This was a
standard install with no diviation from the default. I am running windows 7
64bit.

Try that if you are running a 64bit os.

Rob

--- In mixmasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mixmasters%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Cameron" <cameron@...> wrote:
>
> Hi. yeah, tried that, and no joy.
>
>
>
> No lukc with google either as far as finding forum posts etc regarding
this
> issue.
>
>
>
> Cameron.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mixmasters%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mixmasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mixmasters%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf Of Pete Larson
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:46 PM
> To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mixmasters%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [mixmasters] still missing plugs and virtual instruments
after
> clean install of Sonar 5.1PE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cameron wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all. I called cakewalk tech support regarding my issue with missing
> > plugs and virtual instruments. They gave me instructions on how to do a
> > clean install. Which took forever as I had to reinstall everything.
> >
> > Anyways, I finally get everything installed and registered/authorized,
> > upgrade to sonar 5.1, configure sonar, make damn sure all my plug in
dlls
> > are where they should be, and do a vst plug in scan.
> >
> > Well, low and behold, there are still a ton missing and it's worse than
it
> > was before! Same goes for DXI virtual instruments. What the heck is
going
> > on. This is very frustrating!
> >
> > I made sure default, all plug ins was checked in the insert soft synth
> plug
> > in layout menu option. and when I do a vst scan, it finishes without any
> > "failed to load" messages.
> >
> > Now, when I go into the plug in manager, none of the missing plugs show
up
> > under any of the catagories.
> >
> > Here are just some of the things that sonar is not seeing at all:
> >
> > Session drummer 2, session drummer 3, EZ player pro, superior drummer
2.0,
> > drop zone, z3ta plus, IK amplitube 2 duo le, Ivory pianos 1.6, meladon,
> > remedy, orka, micro tonic, lazy snake, M30 tc reverb, rapture le, guitar
> rig
> > 3, dimension le, baetscape, and the list goes on.
> >
> > However, it does see certain plugs and virtual instruments, like
cyclone,
> > the DXI version of hypersonic 2, rxp, dimension pro, tts1, the vox
plugs,
> > but there are more missing then are listed.
> >
> > All in all I have around 250 or more when you add them all up and I am
> > seeing maybe thirty but that's all.
> >
> > Also, I did a reset on the vst plug ins page of global options, then
> > rescanned, but no luck. It seems the same.
> >
> > I did not seem to have these issues with Sonar 8.31 PE. However, tech
> > support said they didn't have reports of plug in issues with 5 or 5.1.
> >
> > I need to get back to work and this is eating up time.
> >
> > Any ideas of what I can try next?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cameron.
>
> I don't remember what you tried the first time around and I am not a
> Sonar user so my advice may not be worth much. Is there no one in the
> Cakewalk forums that's seen this problem? All I can think of is to try
> removing the plug-ins and then adding them again. I guess that does
> nothing if it's just a matter of having the dll's where they should be
> and depending on Sonar to find all of them as it should. That should be
> automatic as I understand it. I'd stay on Cakewalk support till you get
> some satisfaction. Hopefully someone else has some other ideas for you.
>
> --
> Pete Larson
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have been whatching this and it seems that you are doing eveerything I could
think of other than 1 thing.

What OS bit are you running? 32bit or 64bit. I had a problem with cubase not
seeing all of my vst's. When I went back through my vst installs, they were
installed most of the time in the x86 program folder and my Cubase was looking
for them in the program folder, which is for 64bit files. This was a standard
install with no diviation from the default. I am running windows 7 64bit.

Try that if you are running a 64bit os.

Rob


--- In mixmasters@yahoogroups.com, "Cameron" <cameron@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.  yeah, tried that, and no joy.
>
>
>
> No lukc with google either as far as finding forum posts etc regarding this
> issue.
>
>
>
> Cameron.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mixmasters@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Pete Larson
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:46 PM
> To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [mixmasters] still missing plugs and virtual instruments after
> clean install of Sonar 5.1PE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cameron wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all. I called cakewalk tech support regarding my issue with missing
> > plugs and virtual instruments. They gave me instructions on how to do a
> > clean install. Which took forever as I had to reinstall everything.
> >
> > Anyways, I finally get everything installed and registered/authorized,
> > upgrade to sonar 5.1, configure sonar, make damn sure all my plug in dlls
> > are where they should be, and do a vst plug in scan.
> >
> > Well, low and behold, there are still a ton missing and it's worse than it
> > was before! Same goes for DXI virtual instruments. What the heck is going
> > on. This is very frustrating!
> >
> > I made sure default, all plug ins was checked in the insert soft synth
> plug
> > in layout menu option. and when I do a vst scan, it finishes without any
> > "failed to load" messages.
> >
> > Now, when I go into the plug in manager, none of the missing plugs show up
> > under any of the catagories.
> >
> > Here are just some of the things that sonar is not seeing at all:
> >
> > Session drummer 2, session drummer 3, EZ player pro, superior drummer 2.0,
> > drop zone, z3ta plus, IK amplitube 2 duo le, Ivory pianos 1.6, meladon,
> > remedy, orka, micro tonic, lazy snake, M30 tc reverb, rapture le, guitar
> rig
> > 3, dimension le, baetscape, and the list goes on.
> >
> > However, it does see certain plugs and virtual instruments, like cyclone,
> > the DXI version of hypersonic 2, rxp, dimension pro, tts1, the vox plugs,
> > but there are more missing then are listed.
> >
> > All in all I have around 250 or more when you add them all up and I am
> > seeing maybe thirty but that's all.
> >
> > Also, I did a reset on the vst plug ins page of global options, then
> > rescanned, but no luck. It seems the same.
> >
> > I did not seem to have these issues with Sonar 8.31 PE. However, tech
> > support said they didn't have reports of plug in issues with 5 or 5.1.
> >
> > I need to get back to work and this is eating up time.
> >
> > Any ideas of what I can try next?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cameron.
>
> I don't remember what you tried the first time around and I am not a
> Sonar user so my advice may not be worth much. Is there no one in the
> Cakewalk forums that's seen this problem? All I can think of is to try
> removing the plug-ins and then adding them again. I guess that does
> nothing if it's just a matter of having the dll's where they should be
> and depending on Sonar to find all of them as it should. That should be
> automatic as I understand it. I'd stay on Cakewalk support till you get
> some satisfaction. Hopefully someone else has some other ideas for you.
>
> --
> Pete Larson
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi.  yeah, tried that, and no joy.



No lukc with google either as far as finding forum posts etc regarding this
issue.



Cameron.







From: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mixmasters@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Larson
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:46 PM
To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mixmasters] still missing plugs and virtual instruments after
clean install of Sonar 5.1PE






Cameron wrote:
>
>
> Hi all. I called cakewalk tech support regarding my issue with missing
> plugs and virtual instruments. They gave me instructions on how to do a
> clean install. Which took forever as I had to reinstall everything.
>
> Anyways, I finally get everything installed and registered/authorized,
> upgrade to sonar 5.1, configure sonar, make damn sure all my plug in dlls
> are where they should be, and do a vst plug in scan.
>
> Well, low and behold, there are still a ton missing and it's worse than it
> was before! Same goes for DXI virtual instruments. What the heck is going
> on. This is very frustrating!
>
> I made sure default, all plug ins was checked in the insert soft synth
plug
> in layout menu option. and when I do a vst scan, it finishes without any
> "failed to load" messages.
>
> Now, when I go into the plug in manager, none of the missing plugs show up
> under any of the catagories.
>
> Here are just some of the things that sonar is not seeing at all:
>
> Session drummer 2, session drummer 3, EZ player pro, superior drummer 2.0,
> drop zone, z3ta plus, IK amplitube 2 duo le, Ivory pianos 1.6, meladon,
> remedy, orka, micro tonic, lazy snake, M30 tc reverb, rapture le, guitar
rig
> 3, dimension le, baetscape, and the list goes on.
>
> However, it does see certain plugs and virtual instruments, like cyclone,
> the DXI version of hypersonic 2, rxp, dimension pro, tts1, the vox plugs,
> but there are more missing then are listed.
>
> All in all I have around 250 or more when you add them all up and I am
> seeing maybe thirty but that's all.
>
> Also, I did a reset on the vst plug ins page of global options, then
> rescanned, but no luck. It seems the same.
>
> I did not seem to have these issues with Sonar 8.31 PE. However, tech
> support said they didn't have reports of plug in issues with 5 or 5.1.
>
> I need to get back to work and this is eating up time.
>
> Any ideas of what I can try next?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.

I don't remember what you tried the first time around and I am not a
Sonar user so my advice may not be worth much. Is there no one in the
Cakewalk forums that's seen this problem? All I can think of is to try
removing the plug-ins and then adding them again. I guess that does
nothing if it's just a matter of having the dll's where they should be
and depending on Sonar to find all of them as it should. That should be
automatic as I understand it. I'd stay on Cakewalk support till you get
some satisfaction. Hopefully someone else has some other ideas for you.

--
Pete Larson





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Cameron wrote:
>
>
> Hi all. I called cakewalk tech support regarding my issue with missing
> plugs and virtual instruments. They gave me instructions on how to do a
> clean install. Which took forever as I had to reinstall everything.
>
> Anyways, I finally get everything installed and registered/authorized,
> upgrade to sonar 5.1, configure sonar, make damn sure all my plug in dlls
> are where they should be, and do a vst plug in scan.
>
> Well, low and behold, there are still a ton missing and it's worse than it
> was before! Same goes for DXI virtual instruments. What the heck is going
> on. This is very frustrating!
>
> I made sure default, all plug ins was checked in the insert soft synth plug
> in layout menu option. and when I do a vst scan, it finishes without any
> "failed to load" messages.
>
> Now, when I go into the plug in manager, none of the missing plugs show up
> under any of the catagories.
>
> Here are just some of the things that sonar is not seeing at all:
>
> Session drummer 2, session drummer 3, EZ player pro, superior drummer 2.0,
> drop zone, z3ta plus, IK amplitube 2 duo le, Ivory pianos 1.6, meladon,
> remedy, orka, micro tonic, lazy snake, M30 tc reverb, rapture le, guitar rig
> 3, dimension le, baetscape, and the list goes on.
>
> However, it does see certain plugs and virtual instruments, like cyclone,
> the DXI version of hypersonic 2, rxp, dimension pro, tts1, the vox plugs,
> but there are more missing then are listed.
>
> All in all I have around 250 or more when you add them all up and I am
> seeing maybe thirty but that's all.
>
> Also, I did a reset on the vst plug ins page of global options, then
> rescanned, but no luck. It seems the same.
>
> I did not seem to have these issues with Sonar 8.31 PE. However, tech
> support said they didn't have reports of plug in issues with 5 or 5.1.
>
> I need to get back to work and this is eating up time.
>
> Any ideas of what I can try next?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.

I don't remember what you tried the first time around and I am not a
Sonar user so my advice may not be worth much.  Is there no one in the
Cakewalk forums that's seen this problem?  All I can think of is to try
removing the plug-ins and then adding them again.  I guess that does
nothing if it's just a matter of having the dll's where they should be
and depending on Sonar to find all of them as it should.  That should be
automatic as I understand it.  I'd stay on Cakewalk support till you get
some satisfaction.  Hopefully someone else has some other ideas for you.


--
    Pete Larson

Hi all.  I called cakewalk tech support regarding my issue with missing
plugs and virtual instruments.  They gave me instructions on how to do a
clean install.  Which took forever as I had to reinstall everything.



Anyways, I finally get everything installed and registered/authorized,
upgrade to sonar 5.1, configure sonar, make damn sure all my plug in dlls
are where they should be, and do a vst plug in scan.



Well, low and behold, there are still a ton missing and it's worse than it
was before!  Same goes for DXI virtual instruments.  What the heck is going
on.  This is very frustrating!



I made sure default, all plug ins was checked in the insert soft synth plug
in layout menu option.  and when I do a vst scan, it finishes without any
"failed to load" messages.



Now, when I go into the plug in manager, none of the missing plugs show up
under any of the catagories.



Here are just some of the things that sonar is not seeing at all:



Session drummer 2, session drummer 3, EZ player pro, superior drummer 2.0,
drop zone, z3ta plus, IK amplitube 2 duo le, Ivory pianos 1.6, meladon,
remedy, orka, micro tonic, lazy snake, M30 tc reverb, rapture le, guitar rig
3, dimension le, baetscape, and the list goes on.



However, it does see certain plugs and virtual instruments, like cyclone,
the DXI version of hypersonic 2, rxp, dimension pro, tts1, the vox plugs,
but there are more missing then are listed.



All in all I have around 250 or more when you add them all up and I am
seeing maybe thirty but that's all.



Also, I did a reset on the vst plug ins page of global options, then
rescanned, but no luck.  It seems the same.



I did not seem to have these issues with Sonar 8.31 PE.  However, tech
support said they didn't have reports of plug in issues with 5 or 5.1.



I need to get back to work and this is eating up time.



Any ideas of what I can try next?



Thanks,



Cameron.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

An interesting intellectual/songwriting challenge:

This was an online contest (mp3 files of the contentants entries are posted --
 
http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/2009/04/02/masters-of-song-fu-3-round-3-so\
ngs/
  ).


Challenge #1:  write a happy song

Challenge #2:  write a song with  **exactly** ten different words
("a", "the", "are", "is", etc. are counted as words)

Challenge #3: write a song that suits the title "It All Makes Sense in the End"


I did #2 (but haven't recorded it yet).  Many of the people just wrote
gibberish -- although "Boolean Love Song" --
http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/podpress_trac/web/8819/0/paul_and_storm-bo\
olean_love_song.mp3
-- is actually pretty clever (and catchy!)

Molly Lewis was the winner.  I like her song #1 (about Mr. T), and #3
(about her disillusionment with Wikipedia).


--Travis

Cross-posted from a woodworking list.  Of possible interest.


--Travis

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Nov 19, 2009 12:37 PM


"An international crackdown on the use of endangered woods from the world's
   rain forests to make musical instruments bubbled over to Music City on
  Tuesday  with a federal raid on _Gibson  Guitar_
  (http://www2.gibson.com/Gibson.aspx)  's manufacturing plant, but no arrests."

  _http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091118/BUSINESS01/911180400/Gibson+Guit
  ar+plant+in+Nashville+raided+by+feds_
 
(http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091118/BUSINESS01/911180400/Gibson+Guitar+p\
lant+in+Nashville+raided+by+feds)

  "...some exotic hardwoods traditionally used in making premium guitars,
  such as rosewood from the rain forests of Madagascar and Brazil, have been
  banned from commercial _trade_
 
(http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091118/BUSINESS01/911180400/Gibson+Guitar+p\
lant+in+Nashville+raided+by+feds#)
  because
  of environmental concerns  under a recently revised federal law.
  Under the U.S. Lacey  Act, _trading_
 
(http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091118/BUSINESS01/911180400/Gibson+Guitar+p\
lant+in+Nashville+raided+by+feds#)
   in such banned woods is a federal  offense, punishable by civil and
  criminal penalties or the seizure of  property."
  (hit the link for the rest of the story).

--END--

Thanks for the birthday wishes, all!

I'm alive and well, but life is very congested and I haven't been getting
any recording done either.

--
Hal Laurent
Baltimore

--- In mixmasters@yahoogroups.com, Pete Larson <petel@...> wrote:

> Such a lively bunch we are, these days.  I wonder who has been busy
> recording and who has just been too busy to record??

The later for me.  Soon to change, though... I have a couple of vacations coming
up and some new toys to play with.  She went to Hawaii on business with her
sister last month and brought this home for me:

http://www.fattonymusic.com/img/uke.jpg

Tenor uke, mango wood, nice little active pickup.  Sounds surprisingly good
straight into the board.  I bought a cheap lap steel to go with it.

Happy birthday to Hal!

Rick

I have not been doing much recording.  Started a couple of things but
haven't been able to keep up a head of steam.  Been kind of preoccupied.
Started a new job yesterday and everything leading up to that has been
crazy.  Also, our 22 year old daughter moved out of the house in June, and
since then I have had a lot less spare time if you know what I mean!

Been spending most of my  music time playing acoustic guitar, trying to
learn some fingerstyle solo stuff.  I have taken several passes at that over
the years, but this time making a bit of progress.

Where is everyone!?

Hal, hope you had a good birthday, wherever you are!

Gary



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Larson" <petel@...>
To: <mixmasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [mixmasters] HBD HL


> Me too!  It's late huh?  Oh well, all together now:
>
> Happy Birthday to you,
> Happy Birthday to you,
> Happy Birthday dear Haaaaaaaal,
> Happy Birthday to you!
>
> Such a lively bunch we are, these days.  I wonder who has been busy
> recording and who has just been too busy to record??
>
> --
>   Pete Larson
>
> Hope For The Future Environment
> Sign the petition at: http://www.hopenhagen.org/
>
>
> Jim wrote:
>>
>>
>> Happy Bday Hal
>> Jim
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: mcknigs1
>> To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mixmasters%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:56 PM
>> Subject: [mixmasters] HBD HL
>>
>> Facebook tells me today is Hal Laurent's birthday. HBD Hal!
>>
>> -Scott
>>
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>>
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>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Me too!  It's late huh?  Oh well, all together now:

Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Haaaaaaaal,
Happy Birthday to you!

Such a lively bunch we are, these days.  I wonder who has been busy
recording and who has just been too busy to record??

--
    Pete Larson

Hope For The Future Environment
Sign the petition at: http://www.hopenhagen.org/


Jim wrote:
>
>
> Happy Bday Hal
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mcknigs1
> To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mixmasters%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:56 PM
> Subject: [mixmasters] HBD HL
>
> Facebook tells me today is Hal Laurent's birthday. HBD Hal!
>
> -Scott
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.64/2501 - Release Date:
> 11/13/09 18:22:00
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Hi all.  I am having a frustrating time with sonar 8.51PE.  When I first
installed it, it imported all my plugs with no trouble.  However, I've
downloaded a bunch of new plugs, both straight vst dll files as well as
executable files.  The proper folder is selected on the vst page in global
options, and I have scan existing plug ins and rescan failed plug ins both
checked.  But, when I scan all vst folders, none of my new plugs show up.
When I bring up the folder in windows explorer, all the new plugs are there.
Also, it seems to be insisting that plugs I removed/uninstalled are still
there and I know they are not.  And when you try to load a plug in that does
not exist on my system anymore, all it says is failed to load.  That's it.
No explanation, no help button, no option to remove the plug in from the
list.



I've rescanned over five times now and no change.



Any idea what the heck is going on here?  Any tips?



Sonar 8.51 is fine so far in all other respects, but this is quite the
headache.



Thanks,



Cameron.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Happy Bday Hal
Jim
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: mcknigs1
   To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:56 PM
   Subject: [mixmasters] HBD HL





   Facebook tells me today is Hal Laurent's birthday. HBD Hal!

   -Scott






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Facebook tells me today is Hal Laurent's birthday.  HBD Hal!

-Scott

Pete Larson wrote:

> I just noticed my typos.  I thought I said "the backing guitar tracks
> might afford a bit more highs out of one of them" or something more like
> that. I didn't have gibberish-check turned on.

As it happens, I am fluent in gibberish.

;-)

RGF

Robert G. Ferrell wrote:
>
>
> Pete Larson wrote:
>
>  >
>  > I was also thinking the backing tracks might afford a bit more highs out
>  > maybe one of them but not so much as to distract from the vocal. The
>  > bass sound just a tiny bit odd to me at times. What did you use there?
>
> It's a Palatino VE-500 electric standup through a G-K Backline 112. I
> don't have an acoustic standup, so this is as close as I can come. It
> would probably benefit from some more compression.
>
>  > Overall, it all sounds good and I'd like to hear it with the mandolin
>  > player added in.
>
> I'll let you know when that happens.
>
> Thanks, Pete.
>
> RGF

I just noticed my typos.  I thought I said "the backing guitar tracks
might afford a bit more highs out of one of them" or something more like
that. I didn't have gibberish-check turned on.

Pete

Pete Larson wrote:

>
> I was also thinking the backing tracks might afford a bit more highs out
> maybe one of them but not so much as to distract from the vocal.  The
> bass sound just a tiny bit odd to me at times.  What did you use there?

It's a Palatino VE-500 electric standup through a G-K Backline 112.  I
don't have an acoustic standup, so this is as close as I can come.  It
would probably benefit from some more compression.

> Overall, it all sounds good and I'd like to hear it with the mandolin
> player added in.

I'll let you know when that happens.

Thanks, Pete.

RGF

Robert G. Ferrell wrote:
> The latest version of the other song is up at the same URL as before, if
> you want to hear it.

Sure enough, I went to have a listen and as I was listening I was
getting prepared to hear the mandolin part and recommend starting it
much earlier as just some bright but not loud chord chop accents as is
normally done with a mandolin and then I was going to suggest morphing
that into some soft mando 2-string flutter-picking to transition into
some line picking with just enough gain level to have a shimmery top end
balanced with the other instruments.  Joke's on me, it wasn't there!

I'd meant to comment something after you first posted it, but I put it
off as I was busy.

Ditto on Judy's vocals, very nice and expressive as always.

I was also thinking the backing tracks might afford a bit more highs out
maybe one of them but not so much as to distract from the vocal.  The
bass sound just a tiny bit odd to me at times.  What did you use there?

Overall, it all sounds good and I'd like to hear it with the mandolin
player added in.


--
    Pete Larson

Hope For The Future Environment
Sign the petition at: http://www.hopenhagen.org/

Robert,

Yep, great performance.  It must be a lot of fun to work with such an excellent
singer.  Back in a past life I played with a couple of guys who could just sing
the crap out of anything.  It was pure joy to be on stage with them every night.

Take care,
Gary


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Robert G. Ferrell
   To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:50 PM
   Subject: Re: [mixmasters] MFR: For The Love of That Man (remix)



   Gary Benny wrote:

   > the vocal is so friggin' great it's hard for me to tear my ears away from it
to listen to anything else! :-)

   Here is my personal favorite recording of her. It's from our
   "Christmas" album four years ago. You can hear my gritty bass voice
   underneath, but ignore that.

   http://www.antithetical.org/restlesswind/Full/oholynight.mp3

   The latest version of the other song is up at the same URL as before, if
   you want to hear it.

   RGF





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Gary Benny wrote:

>  the vocal is so friggin' great it's hard for me to tear my ears away from it
to listen to anything else! :-)

Here is my personal favorite recording of her.  It's from our
"Christmas" album four years ago.  You can hear my gritty bass voice
underneath, but ignore that.

http://www.antithetical.org/restlesswind/Full/oholynight.mp3

The latest version of the other song is up at the same URL as before, if
you want to hear it.

RGF

Gary Benny wrote:
> Hey Robert,
>
> Guess I haven't been paying close enough attention, this MFR has been here for
a few days.  I pretty much agree with Buzz, but the vocal is so friggin' great
it's hard for me to tear my ears away from it to listen to anything else! :-)
>
> Pretty good mandolin playing for a first time attempt.  I got a mandolin
recently and it's pretty hard to play.  Again though, I agree that it doesn't
seem exactly right, and sort of breaks up the song.  To my way of thinking, if
you are going to layer stuff in, maybe start a bit earlier and add a few more
instruments to the equation.  Also, the mandolin sound seems like too much
contrast with the drier guitars.
>
> I really like your arrangement and the other stuff sounds really good.
>
Thanks, Gary.  I (hopefully) fixed the percussion this afternoon and
sent that version (sans mandolin) off to our real mandolin player to see
what he comes up with.  I'll try to blend whatever that is more
seamlessly into the mix.

RGF

Hey Robert,

Guess I haven't been paying close enough attention, this MFR has been here for a
few days.  I pretty much agree with Buzz, but the vocal is so friggin' great
it's hard for me to tear my ears away from it to listen to anything else! :-)

Pretty good mandolin playing for a first time attempt.  I got a mandolin
recently and it's pretty hard to play.  Again though, I agree that it doesn't
seem exactly right, and sort of breaks up the song.  To my way of thinking, if
you are going to layer stuff in, maybe start a bit earlier and add a few more
instruments to the equation.  Also, the mandolin sound seems like too much
contrast with the drier guitars.

I really like your arrangement and the other stuff sounds really good.

Gary


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Buzz Lange
   To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [mixmasters] MFR: For The Love of That Man (remix)



   Hi Robert,

   > I posted this last May and the general consensus was that it needed a
   > little more instrumentation to keep from being boring because it is
   > rather a long bluegrass-y ballad.
   >
   > I redid the percussion and added a cheap mandolin toward the end that I
   > bought many years ago in Mexico. Probably not the final version, but I
   > think it's an improvement, at least.
   >
   > NB: since the vast majority our fans say they listen to us on iPods or
   > other .mp3 players, I mix primarily for earbuds these days. They don't
   > have a lot of bass response, so this will probably sound a little heavy
   > on the low end heard through speakers.

   The mandolin adds a frailty to the music. It pulls attention from the
   nice mood up to that point. I had forgotten that I was listening for
   its entry, and there it was. Mood broken.

   The mandolin playing was good, but it was not quite the right thing to
   add in. It pulled attention away from the vocal. I felt as if I had to
   gather in my things and get ready to disembark--and not be taken away as
   I was before.

   Perhaps an easy violin with sustanudo would warm and fill around the
   singer for the ending and keep the mood.

   My own rhythm guitar player studied with Chet Atkins, so I thought that
   the percussion in your piece was picking at first. Perhaps adding a
   little kick to the brush would give a feeling of travel and distance and
   riding.

   I like the bass. It's in the pocket, interesting, on time, and well
   played. I push the bass when it's good. Your bass is good.

   Instead of a blue grass violin, perhaps a 'cello would be a
   consideration. It would give a stormy wind to the ending.

   Assuming you add in a 'cello. If you are careful and blend it smoothly
   into the mid and low spectrum, working it in with the bass and making a
   nice bowed crescendo, you'd keep the mood growing and keep us wanting to
   go on when it's over.

   The singer has a grit with a close intimacy that works like a sparkle
   over a good steady orchestration. The chording in your chorus works
   well. The harmony gives a good progressive feeling. Generally, it's
   all good.

   Your recording and mixing make this a quality presentation. Nice work.

   Cheers,
   Buzz.
   --
   Buzz Lange buzz@...
   Sysadmin zz.com midnight!west
   Mojave Desert USA http://www.zz.com

   It's the end of the day, and all the bullets are in the bad guys.




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Buzz Lange wrote:

>
> The mandolin adds a frailty to the music.  It pulls attention from the
> nice mood up to that point.  I had forgotten that I was listening for
> its entry, and there it was.  Mood broken.

So, you weren't starting to feel a little bored by then?  I was afraid
the repetitive nature of the music and lack of a solo break would tire
listeners out before the end of the song.

> The mandolin playing was good, but it was not quite the right thing to
> add in.  It pulled attention away from the vocal.  I felt as if I had to
> gather in my things and get ready to disembark--and not be taken away as
> I was before.

That's the first time I ever tried to play a mandolin, so I will freely
admit that I really didn't know what I was doing.  An experienced
mandolinist from Georgia was actually slated to record this track, but
it hasn't happened yet and I wanted to get some feedback in the meantime.

> Perhaps an easy violin with sustanudo would warm and fill around the
> singer for the ending and keep the mood.

Yeah, I've got Miroslav Philharmonik, if I could just figure out how to
use it with my Midi controller.  I also know a decent viola player, and
I even wrote some music for her in alto clef, but I can't seem to get
her into the studio.

> My own rhythm guitar player studied with Chet Atkins, so I thought that
> the percussion in your piece was picking at first.

Studying with Chet Atkins would be such a rush.  I got to play with him
(as a high school all-state jazz drummer) for a few minutes at a jazz
festival back in the mid-70s. Milt Hinton and Clark Terry were there,
too.  It was like being coated in luscious chocolate.

> Perhaps adding a
>> little kick to the brush would give a feeling of travel and distance and
>> riding.

I'm a percussionist by training, so I experiment with the percussion on
a regular basis.  The first version had standard brush on snare.  This
is actually a little 8" frame drum with some compression, and is the
first mix I've done where there wasn't a kick of some sort.  I guess I
was just trying to give it a bluegrass feel and I didn't recall there
being much of a kick presence in bluegrass.  My instinct is always to go
with a kick, though.

>
> I like the bass.  It's in the pocket, interesting, on time, and well
> played.  I push the bass when it's good.  Your bass is good.

Wow.  Thanks.  That's my primary instrument these days (because my
little trio needs bass more than it needs a drummer), but I've never
been sure if I really sound like a bassist or not. Usually when I record
bass parts for people they say things like, "Interesting.  I've never
thought of that particular bass line for this song."  I have a feeling I
wouldn't be much in demand as a session bassist.  ;-)

> Instead of a blue grass violin, perhaps a 'cello would be a
> consideration.  It would give a stormy wind to the ending.
> Assuming you add in a 'cello.  If you are careful and blend it smoothly
> into the mid and low spectrum, working it in with the bass and making a
> nice bowed crescendo, you'd keep the mood growing and keep us wanting to
> go on when it's over.

I'm with you there.  I love strings, especially cello and viola.

> The singer has a grit with a close intimacy that works like a sparkle
> over a good steady orchestration.  The chording in your chorus works
> well.  The harmony gives a good progressive feeling.  Generally, it's
> all good.

I'll pass that along to her and the lead guitarist.

> Your recording and mixing make this a quality presentation.  Nice work.

Much appreciate the comments, Buzz.

RGF

Mixmasters:


SHORT:  Brought in some electric guitars and f/x pedals to my
daughter's preschool class today.  This included some "hands on" time
for them.

Fun stuff!  I'll probably do this every year from now on, as she
progresses through gradeschool.

I recommend it to any of you who have kids/nieces/nephews who are
school-aged.  Good to indoctrinate them early (I wasn't exposed to
guitars until college.  If I'd had the chance to handle an electric
guitar when I was younger, I probably would've started earlier...)


LONG (incl. two gear photos):
http://gyegreene.blogspot.com/2009/11/guitar-indoctrination.html


--Travis

Dunno about "hard" punk -- but you may want to check out the Surf
Punks.  I have two of their albums on LP -- pretty good stuff
(non-serious -- somewhat Beach Boys meet the Ramones, with a touch of
Adam Sandler)..


--TWAB

>
>  As far as "sensibilities", can there be such a thing as, say, surf-rock
>  with hard punk sensibilities?

Hi Robert,

> I posted this last May and the general consensus was that it needed a
> little more instrumentation to keep from being boring because it is
> rather a long bluegrass-y ballad.
>
> I redid the percussion and added a cheap mandolin toward the end that I
> bought many years ago in Mexico. Probably not the final version, but I
> think it's an improvement, at least.
>
> NB: since the vast majority our fans say they listen to us on iPods or
> other .mp3 players, I mix primarily for earbuds these days. They don't
> have a lot of bass response, so this will probably sound a little heavy
> on the low end heard through speakers.

The mandolin adds a frailty to the music.  It pulls attention from the
nice mood up to that point.  I had forgotten that I was listening for
its entry, and there it was.  Mood broken.

The mandolin playing was good, but it was not quite the right thing to
add in.  It pulled attention away from the vocal.  I felt as if I had to
gather in my things and get ready to disembark--and not be taken away as
I was before.

Perhaps an easy violin with sustanudo would warm and fill around the
singer for the ending and keep the mood.

My own rhythm guitar player studied with Chet Atkins, so I thought that
the percussion in your piece was picking at first.  Perhaps adding a
little kick to the brush would give a feeling of travel and distance and
riding.

I like the bass.  It's in the pocket, interesting, on time, and well
played.  I push the bass when it's good.  Your bass is good.

Instead of a blue grass violin, perhaps a 'cello would be a
consideration.  It would give a stormy wind to the ending.

Assuming you add in a 'cello.  If you are careful and blend it smoothly
into the mid and low spectrum, working it in with the bass and making a
nice bowed crescendo, you'd keep the mood growing and keep us wanting to
go on when it's over.

The singer has a grit with a close intimacy that works like a sparkle
over a good steady orchestration.  The chording in your chorus works
well.  The harmony gives a good progressive feeling.  Generally, it's
all good.

Your recording and mixing make this a quality presentation.  Nice work.

Cheers,
Buzz.
--
Buzz Lange                                            buzz@...
Sysadmin zz.com           midnight!west
Mojave Desert USA                               http://www.zz.com

It's the end of the day, and all the bullets are in the bad guys.

Oh...well, I guess that's the last one I had before I learned they were
leaving me for another.



From: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mixmasters@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ruben Lopez
Sent: 11/10/2009 15:43
To: mixmasters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mixmasters] microsoft visual c++ Run time error at end of
track bounce?





Tommy Galloway wrote:
> My experience going from a PC to a Mac was mixed. I ran Logic 4.7 (the
last PC update before it went all Mac)

Actually, the last version of Logic for the PC was 5.5.1.

Ruben





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