Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 10:34:53PM -0700, nyctolops@... wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:07:11 -0000, "J.J. Chambers"
> <darkdoctor13@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, nyctolops@... wrote:
> >> That is correct.  Whoever is doing the flooding is forging the
> >> headers.  We have contacted Brian, who is hosting radwm, to see what
> >> can be done about it.
> >
> >It looks like they're getting through simply by adding "Approved: "
> >followed by a gibberish email address to the headers.
> >
> Either Brian did something or someone else less smart tried to flood
> the group today.  Those posts went to the moderators and were
> rejected.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Karen Jo Nyctolops
> radwm moderator
>
>

Thanks!

>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
>

--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@... Ici doctor@...
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the
season!

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:07:11 -0000, "J.J. Chambers"
<darkdoctor13@...> wrote:

>--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, nyctolops@... wrote:
>> That is correct.  Whoever is doing the flooding is forging the
>> headers.  We have contacted Brian, who is hosting radwm, to see what
>> can be done about it.
>
>It looks like they're getting through simply by adding "Approved: "
>followed by a gibberish email address to the headers.
>
Either Brian did something or someone else less smart tried to flood
the group today.  Those posts went to the moderators and were
rejected.

Best Wishes,
Karen Jo Nyctolops
radwm moderator

On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 12:30:39PM -0500, Jefferson Eng wrote:
> > That's OK then.  I was worried that the mods, sick of seeing thousands
> > of "You Need To Moderate This Message" notification emails, had
> > secretly turned off the hand-mod-new-members option.  I'm sorry for
> > doubting you.
>
> Hi,
>
> Your friendly neighborhood "clean-up" moderaor here (that is, the on
> that does the least moderating for some odd reason)...
>
> I've been gone for most of the Christmas weekend.  So, what's up?
>
> -Jefferson, who probably realises an unannounced absence may have been
> for the best...maybe...I think...sigh...
>

Hipcrime is back

Is the gweep admin doing something about this?

I have a solution.

>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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> That's OK then.  I was worried that the mods, sick of seeing thousands
> of "You Need To Moderate This Message" notification emails, had
> secretly turned off the hand-mod-new-members option.  I'm sorry for
> doubting you.

Hi,

Your friendly neighborhood "clean-up" moderaor here (that is, the on
that does the least moderating for some odd reason)...

I've been gone for most of the Christmas weekend.  So, what's up?

-Jefferson, who probably realises an unannounced absence may have been
for the best...maybe...I think...sigh...

--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, nyctolops@... wrote:
> That is correct.  Whoever is doing the flooding is forging the
> headers.  We have contacted Brian, who is hosting radwm, to see what
> can be done about it.

It looks like they're getting through simply by adding "Approved: "
followed by a gibberish email address to the headers.

--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, nyctolops@... wrote:

>
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:05:03 -0000, "J.J. Chambers"
> <darkdoctor13@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, "solar_penguin" <solar.penguin@>
> >wrote:
> >> Why have the trolls been able to spam radwm.  I thought all
> >> first-posts from new members had to be hand-modded before the
> >> poster was put onto the auto-approve list.  Has this changed?
> >
> >They're probably forging headers in a way that bypasses the
> >moderation software.
> >
> That is correct.  Whoever is doing the flooding is forging the
> headers.  We have contacted Brian, who is hosting radwm, to see
> what can be done about it.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Karen Jo
>

That's OK then.  I was worried that the mods, sick of seeing thousands
of "You Need To Moderate This Message" notification emails, had
secretly turned off the hand-mod-new-members option.  I'm sorry for
doubting you.

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:05:03 -0000, "J.J. Chambers"
<darkdoctor13@...> wrote:

>--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, "solar_penguin" <solar.penguin@...>
>wrote:
>> Why have the trolls been able to spam radwm.  I thought all
>> first-posts from new members had to be hand-modded before the poster
>> was put onto the auto-approve list.  Has this changed?
>
>They're probably forging headers in a way that bypasses the moderation
>software.
>
That is correct.  Whoever is doing the flooding is forging the
headers.  We have contacted Brian, who is hosting radwm, to see what
can be done about it.

Best Wishes,
Karen Jo

--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, "solar_penguin" <solar.penguin@...>
wrote:
> Why have the trolls been able to spam radwm.  I thought all
> first-posts from new members had to be hand-modded before the poster
> was put onto the auto-approve list.  Has this changed?

They're probably forging headers in a way that bypasses the moderation
software.

--- In modish@yahoogroups.com, "J.J. Chambers" <darkdoctor13@...> wrote:
>
> Looks like radwm is being spammed by the same folks who went after radw
> a few days ago. The posting server should be blocked and cancel
> messages issued.
>
> J
>

Why have the trolls been able to spam radwm.  I thought all
first-posts from new members had to be hand-modded before the poster
was put onto the auto-approve list.  Has this changed?

Looks like radwm is being spammed by the same folks who went after radw
a few days ago. The posting server should be blocked and cancel
messages issued.

J

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
or queries to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> with the words "modish FAQ" in the
subject line.

Thanks to:
Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
Siobahn Morgan

Archive-name: sf/modish-styleguide
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.4
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

modish POSTING STYLE GUIDE

This Style Guide will be regularly posted to modish, and can be found on
the Web at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

CONTENTS

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?
2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?
3. How does moderation work?
4. Who are the current admins?
5. How are admins added or removed?

___

1. What kinds of posts will not be accepted by the admins?

The main kinds of posts which are not acceptable are:

1) Flames (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are meant to
personally insult or attack others, or to make unsupported allegations
about them)
2) Trolls (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are intended
to provoke angry responses from others)
3) Off-topic posts (postings which, in the judgment of the admins, are
off- topic and/or will probably lead to flames or trolls)
4) Any other posts the admins judge to be offensive, abusive or
threatening

In the event that the admins are unsure of the intent of a post that has
either been complained about or might, in the opinion of the admins, be
considered a troll or flame, evidence of prior behaviour in other
discussion fora can be used to help the admins in deciding the intent of
the poster. Any evidence that is used by the admins in said way must be
posted publicly to modish within 24 hours of a decision.

If a post is rejected, a copy of the post will be sent to the poster
with a brief explanation from the rejecting admin. Posters may rewrite
their posts and resubmit them if they wish.

Admins are subject to the same rules as other posters. If it becomes
necessary, the other admins will hand moderate their posts.

Admins will not make any changes to the content of posts.

___

2. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter,
they can appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may
choose to have the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once
the admins deliver a combined decision on any matter, whether via email
or on list, that decision is final and the matter closed for further
discussion.  Any further discussion/debate on closed matters will be
classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they
may send a complaint to the radwm moderation panel at
<radwm-moderator@...>.  The decision of the moderation panel with
regards to this complaint is final.  Any further discussion/debate on
this complaint will be classed as trolling and dealt with accordingly.

___

3. How does moderation work?

When someone posts to the list for the first time, their post will wait
in a queue to be approved or rejected by an admin (this is called hand
moderation). If the post is compliant with the rules (as per section 1
above), it will be assumed that the poster will continue to follow the
rules, the post will be sent on to the list and the poster will be
auto-approved from that point on, as long as they continue to follow the
rules. If their first post does not follow the rules, it will be
returned to them with an explanation for its rejection, as per section 1
above.

If a poster breaks the rules, they may receive a formal warning from the
admins, at their discretion (the admins may try other measures first).
If they continue to break the rules after a formal warning, their status
will be changed at the admins' discretion to a poster whose messages are
hand moderated for a 6-month period.

A poster can be removed from hand moderation at any time, at the admins'
discretion, by sending a message to the admins stating that they will
follow the rules. A poster may remain on hand moderation for longer than
6 months if they continue to break the rules or attempt to circumvent
the moderation mechanism. Their status will be reviewed every month in
this case.

3a. Action may be taken against individual posters who repeatedly engage
in threatening or abusive behaviour towards an admin or another poster.
Similarly, any poster who attempts to interfere with the normal
operation of the list or with any account involved in its administration
or propagation, other than reporting net-abuse, may be prevented from
posting for a limited period, and/or be subject to further action.

The admins must notify the list and call for a vote of approval for any
action taken or proposed in accordance with this clause. The call for
votes must name the poster and state the reason(s) for the action taken.
The purpose of this vote is for the readership of the list to approve
(or overturn) the admins' decision in this matter. This vote will
operate using the Poll feature of YahooGroups.

If, in the opinion of the admins, emergency action needs be taken
against a poster, then they may proceed without approval providing that
they follow the action by issuing a call for votes, which must clearly
state that the vote is to approve (or overturn) action already taken.
Any thus overturned action must be revoked within a reasonable period of
time.

Interference includes, but is not limited to:

- Persistent behaviour at odds with section 1 above;

- Continued pushing of issues with moderators or admins beyond the point
of last recourse (for example, lodging a complaint in one or more
moderators or admins, and that complaint failing to achieve the
"desired" result);

- Attempting to circumvent the hand-moderation process (be that by
switching of email addresses or nom de plumes, or forging headers, or
any other means);

- Any other series of actions that is deemed by the admins to be
interference and upheld by the list membership by way of a vote.

Note 1: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause who sends No
Confidence Motions to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> will have them
honoured and forwarded by the admins in accordance with the radwm style
guide.

Note 2: a poster who is banned for a time under this clause will, once
they rejoin the list, serve a 6-month period of hand moderation. They
may be removed from hand moderation earlier, at the admins' discretion.

Note 3: a poster may not unsubscribe from the list and re-subscribe at a
later date in order to bypass a period of hand moderation placed upon
them by the admins. Periods of hand moderation are elapsed days whilst
subscribed, though this may be modified at the admins' discretion.

___

4. Who are the current admins?

Paul Harman
Macfadyan
Andrew McCaffrey

___

5. How are admins added or removed?

Admins are appointed and removed by the radwm moderation panel at their
discretion.

Archive-name: sf/modish-faq
Posting-Frequency: fortnightly
Last-modified: 2004/07/9
Version: 0.1
Maintainer: Modish admins <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>

This document can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files

Frequently asked questions for modish:

Questions included in this FAQ:

1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

2. How do I post to it?

3. Somebody posted something bad! How did that get through? What can I do
    about it?

4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

5. I posted something, but it never arrived!  What's wrong?

6. Useful links

7. About this FAQ


*Frequently Asked Questions for modish:*


1. What is modish about? What gets discussed here?

This list is a companion to the newsgroup for the newsgroup
rec.arts.drwho.moderated (hereafter known as radwm) and exists for the
discussion of issues concerning its' effective operation. It is also the place
to lodge a No Confidence Motion against any or all of the radwm moderators. The
list is itself moderated, so you will hopefully find most of the postings to be
on-topic and polite.

Examples of recent discussion topics include: possible trolling posts in radwm,
invalid votes in the radwm moderator election, the requirements of being a
moderator, swearing on radwm, impersonating other posters, banning vs hand
moderation on modish, spoiler space and spoiler headers.

2. How do I post to it?

A. Send an email to modish-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, and posts from the list
will begin appearing in your inbox.

or

B. Join YahooGroups.  Go to <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/> and click on
the link Join Group - you will be led through the joining process for Yahoo (if
you're not already a member) and then will be subscribed to modish.  You can
either have posts mailed to you, or read them in your web browser instead.

Modish is a moderated list, so the first posting that you send to it will not
immediately appear - your posting is in a queue waiting for an admin to approve
it.  If this posting is approved, your future postings will go straight through
to the list from then on.  If any future posting is contrary to the modish style
guide, you will be sent a warning message from the admins.  If you continue to
contravene the style guide, you may be placed on hand moderation for a time (ie:
an admin will approve/reject all your posts).  You can find the style guide in
the Files section of the modish wesbsite (see part 6), along with the radwm
style guide and FAQ. The modish guide is automatically mailed to new members and
appears on the list once a fortnight.


3. Somebody posted something bad!  How did that get through?  What can I do
about it?

Most posters to modish are auto-approved - their posts aren't hand moderated. 
They can post anything they want.  If you feel that their post does not conform
to the style guide then you can forward the post to
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>.  Include a short note why you think the post
should not have been approved.  If the admins agree, they will take action as
specified in section 2 above.


4. How can I appeal the admins' decisions?

If a poster is unhappy with a single admin's response on any matter, they can
appeal via email to <modish-owner@yahoogroups.com>, OR they may choose to have
the matter discussed on the list instead.  However, once the admins deliver a
combined decision on any matter, whether via email or on list, that decision is
final and the matter closed for further discussion.  Any further
discussion/debate on closed matters will be classed as trolling and dealt with
accordingly.

If a poster is unhappy with the combined decision of the admins, they may send a
complaint to the radwm moderation panel at <radwm-moderator@...>.  The
decision of the moderation panel with regards to this complaint is final.  Any
further discussion/debate on this complaint will be classed as trolling and
dealt with accordingly.


5. I posted something, but it took ages to arrive!  What's wrong?

YahooGroups is occasionally mailbombed or undergoes routine maintenance, and
this can cause posting delays of up to 24 hours.  Sometimes posts never arrive
at all.  Wait 24 hours, and then post again if the original has not shown up.

If you're still having problems, email the admins at
<modish-owner@yahoogroups.com> and we'll see if we can help.


6. Useful Links
modish home on the web:            <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/>
modish and radwm style guides:  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modish/files>

7. About this FAQ

This FAQ is currently maintained by the modish admins.  Please send suggestions
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Nick Fitzpatrick
Glenn Langford
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