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Re: 2007 WD5? (potential Mars impactor)

Horizons has a new orbit solution which includes the three precovery
observations. The
new solution gives a nominal Close Approach distance between Mars and 2007 WD5
on January 30.49044 of 0.000140 AU and a probability of a Mars impact of 3.949%
(or 1 :
25):

Date (CT) Body CA Dist MinDist MaxDist Vrel TCA3Sg Nsigs
P_i/p
---------------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------ ------ ---
--- -------
A.D. 2007 Nov 01.90736 Earth .047639 .047464 .047813 8.824 0.97 600.84
.000000
A.D. 2008 Jan 30.49044 Mars .000140 .000003 .001505 12.673 432.68 .26052
.039490

Christian Kjærnet

--- In mpml@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Giorgini" <Jon.Giorgini@...> wrote:
>
> For now, one can generate a close-approach table with some numeric specifics
using
> Horizons:
>
> Date (CT) Body CA Dist MinDist MaxDist Vrel TCA3Sg Nsigs
P_i/p
> ----------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------ ------ ------ -
------
> 2007 Nov 01.90660 Earth .047704 .047200 .048211 8.836 14.61 591.03
.000000
> 2008 Jan 30.38261 Mars .000346 .000000 .004501 12.601 1315.6 .23291
.013428
>
> Date (CT) =
> Nominal close-approach date (Coordinate Time).
>
> Body =
> Name or abbreviation of the planetary body or major asteroid being
> closely approached by the selected small-body.
>
> CA Dist =
> Nominal geometric close-approach distance at the close-approach time,
> uncorrected for light travel time. Units: AU
>
> MinDist =
> Minimum close-approach distance possible (formal 3 standard-deviations
> with linearized covariance mapping). Units: AU
>
> MaxDist =
> Maximum close-approach distance possible (formal 3 standard-deviations
> with linearized covariance mapping). Units: AU
>
> Vrel =
> Relative velocity of the object and the body it is approaching at the
> nominal time of close-approach. Units: KM/S
>
> TCA3Sg =
> Close-approach-time 3-standard deviation uncertainty. Units: MINUTES
>
> Nsigs =
> The number of standard deviations (sigmas) required for the error ellipse
> to intersect the body being closely approached. Units: STANDARD DEVIATIONS
>
> P_i/p =
> Linearized probability of the object impacting the body.
>
>
> --- In mpml@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Wallace" <glenn@> wrote:
> >
> > I thought I missed it, but searched mpml posts and couldn't find any mention
(or of
> 7W83BDA).
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22350742/
> >
> > (note: Associated Press has the SL-9 impact year wrong, should be 1994, not
2004)
> >
> > Where can we find impact solutions? (JPL NEO page only lists potential Earth
impacts,
> correct?
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:20 pm

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... Current numbers from NEODyS are: CA time = 2008/01/30.61407 CA Dist = 0.0007047 AU MinDist = 0.0006231 The last update was 2007/12/20 09:47; it's not clear...
Alan W Harris
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Dec 21, 2007
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Horizons has a new orbit solution which includes the three precovery observations. The new solution gives a nominal Close Approach distance between Mars and...
Christian
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Dec 27, 2007
11:20 pm

Assuming an approach this close will it change the orbit enough to cause a future Earth close approach? don ... precovery observations. The ... and 2007 WD5 ...
Don Galt
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Dec 28, 2007
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... observations. The ... and 2007 WD5 ... The reason for the discrepancy between these results and those I gave in my previous post is that (perhaps...
Aldo Vitagliano
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Dec 28, 2007
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... I think JPL pages list close approaches to otehr planets, but I don't know where for sure. NEODyS has data on the January 30 close pass by Mars: ...
Alan W Harris
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Dec 21, 2007
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Hi Alan, ... From media sensationalism? ... patrick p.s. Have you seen the new twist on the star naming scheme? http:// www.nameastarlive.com At least they...
Patrick Wiggins
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Dec 21, 2007
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There is a NASA press release coming out on this today. We'll also post some graphics on the NEO website. Stay tuned. Ron Baalke...
Ron Baalke
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Dec 21, 2007
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Any chance of tasking the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter to get an image near closest approach? I realize imaging the ground is much different from imaging a...
Jim Baer
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Dec 21, 2007
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Hi All, During the course of searching for orbital similarities between pairs of minor planets, I ran across a couple that seemed unusually similar: 1999 XG88...
Matson, Robert D.
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Dec 21, 2007
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Remarkable case! The two come close every 1086.5 years +/- a few months. The close approaches occur in doublets or in triplets. The last one was on 2007/7/17...
Aldo Vitagliano
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Dec 22, 2007
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Hi All, Is anyone else having trouble connecting with scully.cfa.harvard.edu today? The Minor Planet & Comet Ephemeris Service hangs when queried, yet the MPC...
Matson, Robert D.
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Dec 27, 2007
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... MPES was working at 22:55 UT, when i tested it. Also distant artificial Sats page. This page currently has an entry for the EPOXI spacecraft, due to make a...
Tony Beresford
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Dec 27, 2007
11:21 pm

Hi Aldo, Thanks for the close-approach info on (71049) & (128214)! Here's another pair of asteroids that clearly share a common ancestor: (1270) Datura Epoch...
Matson, Robert D.
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Dec 28, 2007
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Very interesting indeed. These two orbits are so incredibly similar that one can calculate "on the back of an envelope" that they lap each other only once in...
Alan W Harris
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Dec 28, 2007
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... I don't know why, but my email program burped and mailed an incomplete and un-checked draft of my intended post. The above section should have read: ".......
Alan W Harris
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Dec 28, 2007
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http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006Sci...312.1490N Dear all please have a look at the enclosed URL for information about the Datura cluster sincerely Sergio...
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I couldn't access the article from the link below, but here is a direct link to a PDF (which identifies 2003 SQ168 as part of the Datura family): ...
Eric J. Christensen
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Dec 28, 2007
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The distance between two asteroids (1270) Datura and 2003SQ168 grows almost linear from about 5 mln km to 11 mln km in the time span - 3000, +3000 year. The...
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Dec 29, 2007
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... Hi Robert, Given for granted the extreme similarity of the orbital elements of the two bodies, I just want to point out that in this case it is worthless...
Aldo Vitagliano
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According to MPCES, 2003 SQ168 has been observed from 2002 Apr to 2003 Nov. The arc can be significantly increased at the current opposition. Tonight it is...
Robert McNaught
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Hi all, I've just performed a single-night recovery of 2003 SQ168, it's within 1' from predicted position at mag. 20.6-20.8 R. Astrometry just sent to the MPC....
Luca Buzzi
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Jan 1, 2008
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Hi All, My software has turned up another pair of asteroids (Hungarias this time) in essentially the same orbit: (63440) 2001 MD30 Epoch 2007 Oct. 27.0 TT =...
Matson, Robert D.
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This pair of objects is fascinating on several levels. First of all, I agree, two orbits cannot remain so similar for any significant amount of time, nor can...
Alan W Harris
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Jan 2, 2008
10:48 pm

Are the orbital arcs long enough that integrations over umpteen thousand years has any meaning? And would it help if there were archive plates available...
Brian Skiff
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Jan 2, 2008
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AstDys shows the one-sigma variation in "a" for the three-opposition 2004 TV14 at 1.6e-06 AU, which is 35% of the difference between the "a" value for 2004...
Andrew Lowe
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Jan 3, 2008
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... Not really... half an hour total at most for the data miners here on the list. A prediction for POSS I + DSS1 + DSS2 is a matter of seconds. (63440) is...
Reiner M. Stoss
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Jan 3, 2008
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... Checked the plate. Nice trail and easily measurable. That will extend the 2001-2004 to 1993-2004 for 2004 TV14. ...
Reiner M. Stoss
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Jan 3, 2008
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Wo, I'm impressed at how quickly people on this list resond with useful contributions. A longer arc can't hurt, but as I mentioned in my post to Brian Skiff,...
Alan W Harris
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Jan 3, 2008
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Nice job, Reiner, tracking down an image that nicely shows 2004 TV14. Since you've already got a good head start, please feel free to submit as much (or as...
Matson, Robert D.
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The current orbital arcs are sufficient to examine the question of how fast they diverge due to planetary perturbations. for example, the shorter arc, of 2004...
Alan W Harris
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