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Re: {MPML} Observing request: NEOCP 9MA2C3C

Hi Bill,

Thanks.

The MPC did update the uncertainty today after the object was not
found and Sonia sent me another uncertainty plot that is a bit larger
than the one available publicly.
It is possible that the object lies outside the region being
searched, but I'd hate to waste too much of other's precious
telescope time and ask for more.

At CSS we really do appreciate all the effort that goes into the
follow up of our objects. We try to thank everyone who does on our
home page. If anyone gets missed, please let us know.

--
Richard Kowalski
Catalina Sky Survey
Lunar and Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/




On Jul 1, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Bill J Gray wrote:

> Hi Richard, all,
>
> "... There may be another solution linking the Jun 24 and Jun
> 27 observations from G96."
>
> I don't think there is an alternative solution, but there _are_
> some variant orbits as much as 15' off the nominal position shown
> on NEOCP (which currently shows variants mostly within 4' of the
> nominal position). For example:
>
> Orbital elements:
> 9MA2C3C
> Perihelion 2009 Feb 14.138988 TT = 3:20:08 (JD 2454876.638988)
> Epoch 2009 Jun 24.0 TT = JDT 2455006.5 Earth MOID: 0.0882
> M 159.834 (2000.0) P Q
> n 1.230814 Peri. 205.464 -0.345093 -0.887655
> a 0.862331 Node 265.981 0.904912 -0.228451
> e 0.44335 Incl. 17.798 0.249084 -0.399846
> P 0.80/292.48d H 21.9 G 0.15 q 0.480011 Q 1.244651
> From 10 observations 2009 June 24-27; RMS error 0.675 arcseconds
>
> ...which seems like a slightly wacky orbit. But so are most of
> the
> orbits I've found corresponding to this object (more distant orbits
> tend to have high inclinations). Some comet orbits fit well, too,
> but I'd not read much into that at this point.
>
> Maybe this is just a bit outside the area people have been
> searching?
>
> -- Bill
>
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The monsoon started on Saturday here in Tucson and the forecast is for clouds and rain into the foreseeable future. We have an object on the page, 9MA2C3C,...
Richard Kowalski
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Jun 30, 2009
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Are you talking about the page found here: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/NEO/ToConfirm.html Terry - W6LMJ Terrence R. Redding, Ph.D. RTN ...
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Yes, sorry for not being more explicit in the body of the post. Richard ... Richard...
Richard Kowalski
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That's okay. Just climbing aboard and wanted to be sure to consider the correct material. Thank you for the quick response. Terry - W6LMJ Terrence R. Redding,...
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Richard, Unable to detect this object using either the Faulkes Telescope North (5 x 30-sec) around 11:51-11:58 UT and Faulkes Telescope South (16 x 45-sec) ...
RICHARD MILES
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Hi Richard, all, "... There may be another solution linking the Jun 24 and Jun 27 observations from G96." I don't think there is an alternative solution, but...
Bill J Gray
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Hi Bill, Thanks. The MPC did update the uncertainty today after the object was not found and Sonia sent me another uncertainty plot that is a bit larger than...
Richard Kowalski
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Jul 2, 2009
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... KNOBS shows only a single range of solutions. As for it being lost now, oh ye of little faith. A quick application of KNOBS revealed an ephemeris...
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Jul 2, 2009
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... Richard, I took a set of images around June 30.0UT that I was hoping would show 9MA2C3C but I couldn't identify it amongst the rich star field (so many...
Peter Birtwhistle
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Jul 1, 2009
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I also tried a couple of nights at 734. We had a few clouds and it was a heavy star field, but I imaged for a couple of hours both nights without success....
Gary Hug
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Jul 1, 2009
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Thanks to all who made an effort to secure additional observations of this object. Sorry that you weren't successful. We're now deep into the monsoon here with...
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