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Re: {MPML} P100Oms Uranus Trojan?

Hi Tomas,

My apologies; Find_Orb has misled you here.

With this short an arc and this great a distance, the
orbit is almost completely indeterminate. (Except to say
that it's probably pretty darn far off.) In such cases,
Find_Orb just tries some Vaisala orbits and looks for one
that has the closest to "reasonable" results. In this
case, it's putting the object near aphelion (note the
M=180) at about 21.5 AU.

This should serve well for finding the object on another
night, but it's probably not close to the real orbit.

The current "in development" version of Find_Orb shows
the U parameter for better-determined orbits. In this case,
it should probably show "U V", or "U (huge)", just to
warn you that Find_Orb is guessing.

-- Bill



Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:58 am

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Could we have a uranus trojan on our hands? The first four sets of observations available on NEOCP currently give the following elements: P100Oms Perihelion...
Tomas
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Jul 27, 2011
11:32 pm

Thoughts: As a rule of thumb, not strict, trojan orbits are more stable with a planet that does not have massive neighbors both inside and outside of it....
Alan Harris
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Jul 28, 2011
12:11 am

A strange coincidence, here http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K11/K11O47.html and here http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/lists/NeptuneTrojans.html 2004...
andrew_j_walker Offline Send Email Jul 28, 2011
9:53 am

Hi Tomas, My apologies; Find_Orb has misled you here. With this short an arc and this great a distance, the orbit is almost completely indeterminate....
Bill J Gray
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Jul 28, 2011
1:00 am
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