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#1174 From: <rick@...>
Date: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: How to convert LIT to PDF or others? 		rrroth_527
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This is relatively easy, use a program like clit.exe
(http://www.convertlit.com/download.php) to convert the lit file to
html and then go from there, you can load the html directly into
word if you want or use one of the many html converters.

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From: "Agnes" <asiandivergal@...>
Date: 2005/09/09 Fri PM 09:14:34 EDT
To: ms_reader@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ms_reader] How to convert LIT to PDF or others?

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#1173 From: John Winoto <jwinoto@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:34 pm
Subject: Re: How to convert LIT to PDF or others? 		jwinoto
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Hmm, if you have the word document, you can use
http://www.primopdf.com/ and print your document as
pdf. Printing the LIT itself might help too.

LIT is nicer when you are reading in PDA with its
small screen.


Regards,
J

--- Agnes <asiandivergal@...> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have been following the threads here - most of
> them talk about
> conversion from PDF or Microsoft Word to LIT - my
> Question is, is it
> possible to convert a LIT file to PDF or Microsoft
> Word?
>
> I do not really enjoy reading using MReader, and
> will prefer to use
> PDF - or conversion from MReader to MWord, and then
> I can convert from
> MWord to PDF after?
>
> Any help will be much appreciated! Thank you in
> advance!
>
> Cheers,
> Agnes
>
>
>
>
>



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#1172 From: "martin" <m.huizing@...>
Date: Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:34 am
Subject: RE: How to convert LIT to PDF or others? 		m.huizing@...
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Hi

ABC Amber LIT Converter

Will do fine. It is free just type in ABC Amber LIT Converter
In google or what so ever and you 'll see.

greetings
martin

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Of Agnes
Sent: zaterdag 10 september 2005 3:15
To: ms_reader@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ms_reader] How to convert LIT to PDF or others?

Hi there,

I have been following the threads here - most of them talk about
conversion from PDF or Microsoft Word to LIT - my Question is, is it
possible to convert a LIT file to PDF or Microsoft Word?

I do not really enjoy reading using MReader, and will prefer to use
PDF - or conversion from MReader to MWord, and then I can convert from
MWord to PDF after?

Any help will be much appreciated! Thank you in advance!

Cheers,
Agnes







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#1171 From: "Agnes" <asiandivergal@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:14 am
Subject: How to convert LIT to PDF or others? 		asiandivergal
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Hi there,

I have been following the threads here - most of them talk about
conversion from PDF or Microsoft Word to LIT - my Question is, is it
possible to convert a LIT file to PDF or Microsoft Word?

I do not really enjoy reading using MReader, and will prefer to use
PDF - or conversion from MReader to MWord, and then I can convert from
MWord to PDF after?

Any help will be much appreciated! Thank you in advance!

Cheers,
Agnes

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#1170 From: "Hendro Joewono" <hjoewono@...>
Date: Thu Sep 1, 2005 1:53 pm
Subject: RE: Can anyone help 		om_hendro
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     Sent: 9/1/05 5:21:49 PM
     To: "ms_reader@yahoogroups.com"<ms_reader@yahoogroups.com>
     Subject: [ms_reader] Can anyone help

     Dear Friends,
          I am seetharaman, i am in a conversion field for almost 3 years,
     but i dont know about MS Reader. I involved in conversion of SGML and
     XML relevant projects. For the first time i was asked to take care of
     MS Reader. I dont know about this software. Can anyone help me to know
     about this software and the following details.

     1. What kind of input and what is the output?

You can use html, txt, or doc

     2. Is it a free software or licensed software?

There's a free .doc to .lit converter from microsoft. For commercial purpose,
you can use Mobipochet publisher. I prefer this one, since we can work with text
and graphics almost effortlessly.

There are several others. Those two are the most commonly used I believe.

     3. What are skills required to work on this software?

Typing and reading? :-)

     4. What are all the process involved to convert one kind of input to the
desired output.

Editing, spell-checking, formatting... automatic convertion.

     Please help me on the above. You can reach through my mobile and my
     number is 09444457110.

     Thanks,
     Jay.seetharaman






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#1169 From: "seethaj_mkm" <seethaj_mkm@...>
Date: Thu Sep 1, 2005 10:21 am
Subject: Can anyone help 		seethaj_mkm
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Dear Friends,
      I am seetharaman, i am in a conversion field for almost 3 years,
but i dont know about MS Reader. I involved in conversion of SGML and
XML relevant projects. For the first time i was asked to take care of
MS Reader. I dont know about this software. Can anyone help me to know
about this software and the following details.

1. What kind of input and what is the output?
2. Is it a free software or licensed software?
3. What are skills required to work on this software?
4. What are all the process involved to convert one kind of input to
the desired output.

Please help me on the above. You can reach through my mobile and my
number is 09444457110.

Thanks,
Jay.seetharaman

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#1168 From: "martin" <m.huizing@...>
Date: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:22 am
Subject: RE: MS Reader conversion 		m.huizing@...
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Hoi,

With PDF2Text Print Pilot (www.colorpilot.com/pdf2text.html), you can
convert PDF to txt- files and with WordRMR (free at Microsoft's) you can
convert txt-files to lit. Why should you pay for converting pdf to lit.

Greeting

Martin Huizing


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Of Denis ZWIRN
Sent: zaterdag 13 augustus 2005 20:37
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Subject: Re: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion

Maud,
Peux tu me donner un prix standard à la page pour convertir du PDF texte en
LIT ?
Merci,
Denis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
To: <ms_reader@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion


> How much would it take to convert a document in PDF to LIT?
> Elias Cassiel
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Denis Zwirn
>   To: ms_reader@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:31 AM
>   Subject: RE: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
>
>
>
>   Yes we can.
>   We currently convert ebooks from PDF to PRC or LIT.
>   Denis Zwirn
>   www.numilogebooks.com
>
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>   -----Message d'origine-----
>   De : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ms_reader@yahoogroups.com]De la
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>   Envoyé : mardi 14 juin 2005 07:17
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>   Can you convert from pdf to lit?
>   Elias Cassiel
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>   From: "Denis Zwirn" <dzwirn@...>
>   To: <ms_reader@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:03 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
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>   > Hello,
>   > We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion
>   > services
>   > from DOC to LIT.
>   > But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
>   > Perhaps we may help ?
>   > Denis Zwirn
>   > www.numilogebooks.com
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>   > We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from
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MS
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#1167 From: "Denis ZWIRN" <dzwirn@...>
Date: Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: MS Reader conversion 		dzwirn@...
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Maud,
Peux tu me donner un prix standard à la page pour convertir du PDF texte en
LIT ?
Merci,
Denis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
To: <ms_reader@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion


> How much would it take to convert a document in PDF to LIT?
> Elias Cassiel
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Denis Zwirn
>   To: ms_reader@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:31 AM
>   Subject: RE: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
>
>
>
>   Yes we can.
>   We currently convert ebooks from PDF to PRC or LIT.
>   Denis Zwirn
>   www.numilogebooks.com
>
>
>   -----Message d'origine-----
>   De : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ms_reader@yahoogroups.com]De la
>   part de Elias Cassiel
>   Envoyé : mardi 14 juin 2005 07:17
>   À : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com
>   Objet : Re: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
>
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>   Can you convert from pdf to lit?
>   Elias Cassiel
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Denis Zwirn" <dzwirn@...>
>   To: <ms_reader@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:03 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
>
>
>   >
>   > Hello,
>   > We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion
>   > services
>   > from DOC to LIT.
>   > But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
>   > Perhaps we may help ?
>   > Denis Zwirn
>   > www.numilogebooks.com
>   >
>   >
>   > -----Message d'origine-----
>   > De : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ms_reader@yahoogroups.com]De la
>   > part de GLB Pub
>   > Envoyé : lundi 13 juin 2005 17:35
>   > À : ms _ Reader
>   > Objet : [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
>   >
>   >
>   > We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from
Microsoft.
>   > Is
>   > there anyone else offering the program for conversion of .doc files to
MS
>   > Reader?
>   >
>   > W. L. (Bill) Warner
>   > GLB Publishers®
>   > Now past our 15th year
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#1166 From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
Date: Tue Aug 9, 2005 9:34 pm
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How much would it take to convert a document in PDF to LIT?
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   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:31 AM
   Subject: RE: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion



   Yes we can.
   We currently convert ebooks from PDF to PRC or LIT.
   Denis Zwirn
   www.numilogebooks.com


   -----Message d'origine-----
   De : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ms_reader@yahoogroups.com]De la
   part de Elias Cassiel
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   À : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com
   Objet : Re: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion


   Can you convert from pdf to lit?
   Elias Cassiel
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   From: "Denis Zwirn" <dzwirn@...>
   To: <ms_reader@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:03 PM
   Subject: RE: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion


   >
   > Hello,
   > We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion
   > services
   > from DOC to LIT.
   > But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
   > Perhaps we may help ?
   > Denis Zwirn
   > www.numilogebooks.com
   >
   >
   > -----Message d'origine-----
   > De : ms_reader@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ms_reader@yahoogroups.com]De la
   > part de GLB Pub
   > Envoyé : lundi 13 juin 2005 17:35
   > À : ms _ Reader
   > Objet : [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
   >
   >
   > We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from Microsoft.
   > Is
   > there anyone else offering the program for conversion of .doc files to MS
   > Reader?
   >
   > W. L. (Bill) Warner
   > GLB Publishers®
   > Now past our 15th year
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#1165 From: "martin" <m.huizing@...>
Date: Sat Aug 6, 2005 6:41 pm
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Tja MSReader,

I use it on my PC. that's kind of stupid, because it uses only a small part
of my screen while Adobe for instance  uses the whole. The readability by
Msreader is not very good. You become tired after a while and start thinking
the book is not very nice, even if it is very nice. You can't print. The
possibilty to let the book be read by voice is horrible. There is no
intonation what so ever you must be a masochist to use that. It is not
better in Adobe anyhow.

It is a good thing there are many free books. With the help of Abc Amber
lit. converter you can change most of them to Adobe books.

I' m from holland there are not very many books in Dutch. That is an
disadvantice. But that 's for all kinds of eBooks.

At the moment i like Adobe most. I think that Microsoft and Adobe think
ebooks is just a faillure and they are not interrested. I think that is
wrong.
But i think .lit and .pdf are not the latest words.

Greetings

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#1164 From: "Budd Turner" <n7eoj@...>
Date: Fri Aug 5, 2005 1:49 pm
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Activation is another problem with M$ software.


--- In ms_reader@yahoogroups.com, steve o <sjo442@y...> wrote:
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a new PC, downloaded MSReader, and have spent two hours trying to
Activate it, still without success.

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#1163 From: steve o <sjo442@...>
Date: Wed Aug 3, 2005 2:40 am
Subject: RE: Best ereader? 		sjo442
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another drawback of msreader can be its Activation system - I bought a new PC,
downloaded MSReader, and have spent two hours trying to Activate it, still
without success.

Hendro Joewono <hjoewono@...> wrote:I like MSReader for its readability.
Very book-like, but easier to navigate. And it's free! Just a single drawback,
though: there's no Palm version of it, so--in some cases--I do not convert my
txt files to .lit books to make sure I can read them in any platforms. For this
purpose, I prefer the other reader (see below).

My other favorite eBook reader is eReader (used to be called PalmReader). This
one is available in both format: PPC and Palm (or four if we include Mac and
Windows).

Another good reader is MobiPocket Reader. IMHO, not as elegant as the other two.
But, it's available in PPC and Palm also. And better still, the developer gives
you the converter too: MobiPocket Publisher, with which, you can publish in any
of your choice: .lit (MS Reader), or .prc (unreadable by eReader,
unfortunately).

There are several other popular eBook readers like uBook (mju Book), Tiny
Reader, etc., which I don't use as frequently. So, I cannot give much info
about.

However, I never see choosing an eBook reader is some kind of commitment, since
they don't ask for a "til death do us apart" oath from you.

My advice is: be a poligamist. :-)

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     I'm getting caught up with technology.
     I just acquired an Ipaq 4355.
activate it.
     Before committing to msreader, I am curious about all the other
     ereaders out there.
     Comparisons/Reviews somewhere?
     Preferences?






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#1162 From: "Hendro Joewono" <hjoewono@...>
Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 11:40 pm
Subject: RE: Best ereader? 		om_hendro
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I like MSReader for its readability. Very book-like, but easier to navigate. And
it's free! Just a single drawback, though: there's no Palm version of it, so--in
some cases--I do not convert my txt files to .lit books to make sure I can read
them in any platforms. For this purpose, I prefer the other reader (see below).

My other favorite eBook reader is eReader (used to be called PalmReader). This
one is available in both format: PPC and Palm (or four if we include Mac and
Windows).

Another good reader is MobiPocket Reader. IMHO, not as elegant as the other two.
But, it's available in PPC and Palm also. And better still, the developer gives
you the converter too: MobiPocket Publisher, with which, you can publish in any
of your choice: .lit (MS Reader), or .prc (unreadable by eReader,
unfortunately).

There are several other popular eBook readers like uBook (mju Book), Tiny
Reader, etc., which I don't use as frequently. So, I cannot give much info
about.

However, I never see choosing an eBook reader is some kind of commitment, since
they don't ask for a "til death do us apart" oath from you.

My advice is: be a poligamist. :-)

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     Subject: [ms_reader] Best ereader?

     I'm getting caught up with technology.
     I just acquired an Ipaq 4355.
activate it.
     Before committing to msreader, I am curious about all the other
     ereaders out there.
     Comparisons/Reviews somewhere?
     Preferences?

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#1161 From: "Budd Turner" <n7eoj@...>
Date: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:17 pm
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I'm getting caught up with technology.
I just acquired an Ipaq 4355.
It has M$Reader v.2.2.3 that seems to work ok.  I just visited M$ site
and saw update to v3.2, but notice you have to activate it.
Before committing to msreader, I am curious about all the other
ereaders out there.
Comparisons/Reviews somewhere?
Preferences?

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#1160 From: "Cj. Aberte" <stitelyaberte@...>
Date: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:58 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 381 		cjz_here
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At 11:24 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
>You may have to delete your cookies to get the activation site to
>'wake up', i also had this trouble earlier in the week, so i deleted
>all my cookies and after that everything went ok.
>Hope this helps

Thanks. I keep hoping. Gone surfing from MS to Adobe and back (*hate*
adobe.. always have but when their screens cut off up to 7 letters etiher
side, I headed back to MS. Did try deleting the cookies. Apparently this is
nothing new *sigh*. You'd think with the prevalence of books getting so
expensive they'd want *every* blessed chance they could get to sell another
one on their system! *sheesh*



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#1159 From: David Akroyd <david.akroyd@...>
Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 381 		liveunlimited
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You may have to delete your cookies to get the activation site to
'wake up', i also had this trouble earlier in the week, so i deleted
all my cookies and after that everything went ok.
Hope this helps


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#1158 From: "cjz_here" <rzlatkin@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:31 am
Subject: Yikes!! 		cjz_here
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Downloaded Reader for both the laptop and iPAQ and have them up and
running, however when I attempt to activate at best (I actually gave
up and uninstalled one copy on all the machines) I get a blank page
after signing in with Passport - that grinds on and on forever without
results.

Appears that MS has also deleted all their online communities and shut
off support to all kinds of products. Not a good way to run a business
built on the good opinion of it's users!!

There's nothing in the Knowledge database or FAQs online and reading
your archives I don't come up with the "blank" page phenomenon. Yes, I
have deleted all the files, used Explorer after reopening, etc. Read
everything I can find and tried all the various "tricks" tips and
solutions to no avail..

The first time around I was able to get activation on the desktop
(ONLY) never on the iPAQ.... Now nothing on either.

Anyone got any sugggestions?

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#1157 From: "GLB Pub" <glbpubs@...>
Date: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:25 pm
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Subject: Re: LIT program

If you have the time, uninstall both ops and then install them again, Word
first. RMR is an add-in for Word and if you first loaded it with 2002 then
it has tied itself into that.  Uninstall both and then install Word 2003 and
then RMR will be able to tie into 2003.  If you have tried to repair RMR
after its already tied into 2002, there's a good chance that  all you'd
accomplish is to make sure the program is fine without actually seeing if
the software that it's tied to, Word 2002, is actually still there or not.
Hope this helps you out.
Elias Cassiel
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Thanks. That makes sense. I will try it.

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#1156 From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:34 pm
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If you have the time, uninstall both ops and then install them again, Word
first. RMR is an add-in for Word and if you first loaded it with 2002 then
it has tied itself into that.  Uninstall both and then install Word 2003 and
then RMR will be able to tie into 2003.  If you have tried to repair RMR
after its already tied into 2002, there's a good chance that  all you'd
accomplish is to make sure the program is fine without actually seeing if
the software that it's tied to, Word 2002, is actually still there or not.
Hope this helps you out.
Elias Cassiel
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Subject: Re: [ms_reader] LIT program


>   Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:37:25 -0600
>   From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
> Subject: Re: MS Reader conversion
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/reader/developers/downloads/rmr.asp
> I'm not sure what you mean by not offering support.  I was never aware
> that
> they more than offered their programs.  This is a link to a program that
> will convert from .doc to .lit if I understand correctly, that is what you
> want, right?  I've rarely thought to ask for support for any program that
> didn't crash on me. :P  Hope this helps and if it doesn't give me a buzz,
> k?
> Elias Cassiel
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> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:35 AM
> Subject: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion
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>
>> We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from Microsoft.
>> Is
>> there anyone else offering the program for conversion of .doc files to MS
>> Reader?
>>
>> W. L. (Bill) Warner
> -------------------------
> We originally obtained the program that way, and have downloaded it again
> recently (repair) but since updating to Word 2003 the conversion to LIT
> always fails. It seems to go through the process and then we get the error
> message:
> "Unable to build eBook (Error 66 Unrecognized CSS Directive: '@list.' This
> content would fail on the original Pocket PC version of the Reader, and
> must
> not appear in files compatible with that version.)
> No one at Microsoft will do anything. Perhaps we will have to return to
> Word
> 2002. It is pretty sad when a company with the stature of MS refuses to
> help
> when their program fails, but that's the situation here.
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#1155 From: "GLB Pub" <glbpubs@...>
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Subject: Re: LIT program 		wwarner2001
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http://www.microsoft.com/reader/developers/downloads/rmr.asp
I'm not sure what you mean by not offering support.  I was never aware that
they more than offered their programs.  This is a link to a program that
will convert from .doc to .lit if I understand correctly, that is what you
want, right?  I've rarely thought to ask for support for any program that
didn't crash on me. :P  Hope this helps and if it doesn't give me a buzz, k?
Elias Cassiel
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Subject: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion


> We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from Microsoft.
> Is
> there anyone else offering the program for conversion of .doc files to MS
> Reader?
>
> W. L. (Bill) Warner
-------------------------
We originally obtained the program that way, and have downloaded it again
recently (repair) but since updating to Word 2003 the conversion to LIT
always fails. It seems to go through the process and then we get the error
message:
"Unable to build eBook (Error 66 Unrecognized CSS Directive: '@list.' This
content would fail on the original Pocket PC version of the Reader, and must
not appear in files compatible with that version.)
No one at Microsoft will do anything. Perhaps we will have to return to Word
2002. It is pretty sad when a company with the stature of MS refuses to help
when their program fails, but that's the situation here.

W. L. (Bill) Warner
GLB Publishers®
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#1154 From: "Denis Zwirn" <dzwirn@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:31 am
Subject: RE: MS Reader conversion 		dzwirn@...
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Yes we can.
We currently convert ebooks from PDF to PRC or LIT.
Denis Zwirn
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Can you convert from pdf to lit?
Elias Cassiel
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>
> Hello,
> We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion
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> But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
> Perhaps we may help ?
> Denis Zwirn
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#1153 From: "martin" <m.huizing@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:09 am
Subject: RE: MS Reader conversion 		m.huizing@...
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You can make conversions from .pdf to .doc by a conversion program from
http://www.blitzbox.de/index.html, they have a free limited use version.
From .doc to .lit goes with the microsoft rmr program for Word.

I hope this is of some help.

Martin Huizing


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Can you convert from pdf to lit?
Elias Cassiel
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>
> Hello,
> We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion
> services
> from DOC to LIT.
> But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
> Perhaps we may help ?
> Denis Zwirn
> www.numilogebooks.com
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> We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from Microsoft.
> Is
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#1152 From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:17 am
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Can you convert from pdf to lit?
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>
> Hello,
> We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion
> services
> from DOC to LIT.
> But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
> Perhaps we may help ?
> Denis Zwirn
> www.numilogebooks.com
>
>
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#1151 From: "Elias Cassiel" <escape314@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:37 am
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http://www.microsoft.com/reader/developers/downloads/rmr.asp
I'm not sure what you mean by not offering support.  I was never aware that
they more than offered their programs.  This is a link to a program that
will convert from .doc to .lit if I understand correctly, that is what you
want, right?  I've rarely thought to ask for support for any program that
didn't crash on me. :P  Hope this helps and if it doesn't give me a buzz, k?
Elias Cassiel
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Subject: [ms_reader] MS Reader conversion


> We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from Microsoft.
> Is
> there anyone else offering the program for conversion of .doc files to MS
> Reader?
>
> W. L. (Bill) Warner
> GLB Publishers®
> Now past our 15th year
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#1150 From: "Denis Zwirn" <dzwirn@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:03 pm
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Hello,
We use the LIT conversion program and are able to offer conversion services
from DOC to LIT.
But not maintenance on the conversion program itself...
Perhaps we may help ?
Denis Zwirn
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Reader?

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#1149 From: "GLB Pub" <glbpubs@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:35 pm
Subject: MS Reader conversion 		wwarner2001
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We are no longer able to obtain support for this program from Microsoft. Is
there anyone else offering the program for conversion of .doc files to MS
Reader?

W. L. (Bill) Warner
GLB Publishers®
Now past our 15th year

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#1148 From: Jon Noring <jon@...>
Date: Wed May 4, 2005 7:52 pm
Subject: OpenReader announcement: Open-standards eBook Format and Reading System Development Discussion Groups 		jon_noring
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Quick Summary (including how to subscribe):
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You are invited to subscribe and participate in one or both of the
following discussion groups (hosted at YahooGroups) supporting the
ongoing activities of the OpenReader Consortium:

    1) "openreader-format": OpenReader Format Specification (an
       open-standards ebook and digital publication/document
       distribution format), and

    2) "openreader-devel": Development of an open-source, license-free,
       multi-platform reference implementation of an OpenReader reading
       system ("user agent").

(Both projects will be summarized in the next section. For more
detailed information, refer to http://www.openreader.org/ .)

If you have a supportive interest in either topic, we invite you to
subscribe to the group of interest. (Those who subscribe to the "user
agent development" group are strongly urged to also subscribe to the
Format group.)

By joining either of these groups, there is no implied commitment to
become an active participant in either of the associated Working
Groups, although we certainly hope you will. We welcome your thoughts
and insights, even if you choose not to actively participate in formal
Working Group activities.

The home pages to the two groups are found at:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-format/

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/

There is a link to subscribe to each group at the group's home page.
Or, you can subscribe to either using the following email addresses:

    openreader-format-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

    openreader-devel-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

If you prefer not to go through the process of subscribing yourself to
either group, I'll be more than happy to subscribe you. Just email me
(jon@... or jon@...) your request to join -- be
sure to specify which group(s) -- along with the email address you
want to use to receive group messages.



More Detailed Information about OpenReader:
-------------------------------------------

As noted in the prior section, the best online resource explaining
OpenReader is the current OpenReader web site (planned to soon undergo
a much-needed major update and upgrade):

    http://www.openreader.org/

OpenReader is a cooperative project to create an open, standards-based
digital publication distribution format to facilitate current,
continuing, and long-term access to ebooks and other types of digital
publications and documents.

The OpenReader distribution format will be based on well-established
XML vocabularies, publication frameworks, and W3C technologies. This
includes OEBPS (the Open eBook Publication Structure framework),
XHTML, CSS, MathML, SVG and XLink, to name the more important ones.
Our current plans also include eventual native support for TEI,
NewsML, and possibly other advanced and specialized document markup
vocabularies and publication frameworks.

The OpenReader Consortium will also support the development of
reference implementations of programs to render OpenReader-compliant
documents on a number of devices, and to convert OpenReader-compliant
documents to other publication formats, such as PDF/A.

There is a clear need for such a distribution format, given the
present anarchy of multiple, incompatible, inflexible, and proprietary
publication formats which do not provide the reading experience
consumers want and publishers strive for. David Rothman, in his
TeleRead blog covering the ebook, digital library, and related
industries (http://www.teleread.org/blog/), aptly describes this
situation as the "Tower of eBabel".

While the initial focus of the OpenReader Consortium is primarily on
ebooks, we intend to make the distribution format flexible enough to
be applicable to a wide variety of digital publications and documents,
such as periodicals, newspapers, document collections, white papers,
many types of business documents, etc. We even envision the OpenReader
format to be quite useful for encapsulating and archiving standards-
conformant Web sites.

When the HTML format and HTTP protocol were developed more than a
decade ago, NCSA developed a "web browser", Mosaic, to support the
format and protocol. The success of the World Wide Web was due as much
to the wide-spread availability of the NCSA Mosaic browser, as it was
to the openness and availability of the HTML and HTTP specifications.

Similarly, we believe that it is important to develop, in conjunction
with the OpenReader Format, a cross-platform, open-source,
license-free reference implementation of an OpenReader rendering
program, which will make the OpenReader Format Specification truly
useful, to establish uniform rendering behavior, and to spur others
to build their own conforming OpenReader user agents.


*****

We look forward to your joining either or both groups, even if to
lurk. If you know of others who may be interested in OpenReader, feel
free to forward this announcement to them. We are also building a
Consortium of interested companies and organizations in the digital
publication and document universe who see the open-standards
OpenReader as furthering their business and institutional
objectives. Of course, we are looking for dedicated individuals, who
agree with the OpenReader philosophy, to become leaders and help to
make OpenReader a success.

Thanks.

Jon Noring
OpenReader Consortium

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#1147 From: "mischief32us" <mischief32us@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:17 pm
Subject: Problems with Sorting ebooks in the Reader 		mischief32us
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I just noticed when I opened my Reader yesterday it says I acquired all
my books yesterday.  I had books sorted by acquired date so that could
read the ones I have had the longest first.  Has anyone had this
problem before?  I ran a virus check and a spyware check and found
nothing.  Any suggestions?  Is this a glich I should be worried about?

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#1146 From: "ganesh_kf" <ganesh_kf@...>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:04 pm
Subject: BUSINESS PROPOSITION - ebooks 		ganesh_kf
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Dear Friends,

We are from Indian and part of a business group with interests in
shipping and in BPO sector.

AS you are aware, BPO sector is growing in leaps and bounds in India
because the (1) cost of manpower is very very less compared to that
of developed countries (2) Quality human resources available who are
really hard working and committed (3) Availablity of good English
knowing manpower.

With the 3 main advantages to our side, we have started the BPO
venture from being in the shipping industry for over a decade.

As you may be aware that there are lot of companies which are engaged
in conversion of paper books to ebooks format and selling them on
website and also for making them be able to be "text" searched.

There is a lot of scope in this business and some part of the above
conversion is human oriented and cannot be done by
computers/automation.

The main work involves scanning the hardbook into pdf or jpg files,
conversion to editable format (such as ms-word) and additing xml tags
and further processing to be made to ebooks.

We are now engaged in conversion from scanned images (pdf/jpg/gif) to
editable text (ms-word) which is hugely human oriented. Those of you
already familiar with this would know that even the best OCR software
cannot be trusted for good conversion and it WILL require a human
person to check the scanned pages word by word with the editable text.

We propose to take up such conversion from scanned images to ms-word
documents with word-by-word human checking.

The upload/download of the data can be done by couriring of cds/dvds
or by ftp.

We can agree on terms and conditions which will be suitable to both
our companies and we look for long term relationship and would put
all our emphasis on giving quality output to our clients.

Thank You.

We welcome all kinds of business proposals in the ebooks / newspapers
or any other conversion projects.

Thanking You once again,

Kind Regards,
P S Ganesh
+91 98840 93154

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#1145 From: "Jack Earl" <jackmearl@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:17 am
Subject: Hundreds of free Microsoft Reader eBooks 		grampajack
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I have just added hundreds of free ebooks for the Microsoft Reader to
my website at:
http://www.msreaderbooks.com/index.html

Enjoy

Jack

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