Thanks for your reply.

I know what they do, and at this time I need PEEK access.

Let me rephrase the question:

I am using VB with the COM MSMQ API.  Whenever I open a queue with
MQ_RECEIVE_ACCESS, things work swimmingly.  However, if I simply change that
one constant in the Open function to MQ_PEEK_ACCESS it bombs and gives me
the error ACCESS DENIED.

I've looked through the documentation for any explanations, but to me it
seems that MQ_RECEIVE_ACCESS is the more restrictive of the bunch.

Any comments?

d.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ldking [mailto:ldking@...]
>
> If you open a queue for receive access you can PEEK or
> RECEIVE from the queue.  If you open a queue for peek access you can only
> PEEK at the messages.  Receive is destructive (message is removed), peek >
is none destructive (message remains).

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> Can anyone tell me why there is more restriction placed on a
> queue opened
> with MQ_PEEK_ACCESS than MQ_RECEIVE_ACCESS?
>
> When opening a queue with MQ_RECEIVE_ACCESS, all is well.
> However, whenever
> my application attempts to read from the exact same queue with
> MQ_PEEK_ACCESS it always returns "Access Denied".

There are probably two reasons for offering MQ_PEEK_ACCESS. First,
you can think of MQ_PEEK_ACCESS as offering a program extra protection
against about the possibility of mistakes, e.g., accidentally removing
a message from a queue. This is a quess, but Microsoft may optimize
reads under situation where they know you won't remove a message from
a queue. (But that's just a guess.)

Alan


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Can anyone tell me why there is more restriction placed on a queue opened
with MQ_PEEK_ACCESS than MQ_RECEIVE_ACCESS?

When opening a queue with MQ_RECEIVE_ACCESS, all is well.  However, whenever
my application attempts to read from the exact same queue with
MQ_PEEK_ACCESS it always returns "Access Denied".

Searching for help on this has come up empty.  Any help or pointers would be
very much appreciated.

d.
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Thanks Keith,

I had originally installed SP4 prior to the Option Pack.  But reinstalling
SP4 fixed the problem.

d.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Schaab [mailto:keithsc@...]
>
> Try applying SP4, this should fix this problem.
>
> Keith Schaab
> Microsoft Message Queue Developer Support
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dolynyk@... [mailto:dolynyk@...]
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was hoping someone can help me out here regarding sending
> persistable objects using MSMQ and VB.
>
> I've toggled the class that is to be sent as "Persistable" and have
> implemented the Write/ReadProperties and have watched the
> call to Write when I .Body = MyObject.
>
> However, after returning from the Write it complains, "Object doesn't
> support this action".
>
> Is there something I'm missing?

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Try applying SP4, this should fix this problem.

Keith Schaab
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To: msmq@egroups.com
Subject: [msmq] Sending persistable objects using VB


Hi All,

I was hoping someone can help me out here regarding sending persistable
objects using MSMQ and VB.

I've toggled the class that is to be sent as "Persistable" and have
implemented the Write/ReadProperties and have watched the call to Write when
I .Body = MyObject.

However, after returning from the Write it complains, "Object doesn't
support this action".

Is there something I'm missing?

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Hi All,

I was hoping someone can help me out here regarding sending persistable objects
using MSMQ and VB.

I've toggled the class that is to be sent as "Persistable" and have implemented
the Write/ReadProperties and have watched the call to Write when I .Body =
MyObject.

However, after returning from the Write it complains, "Object doesn't support
this action".

Is there something I'm missing?

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Exploring Independent Client Access on Dial-up Internet Line
============================================================

We are new to MSMQ & are exploring the possibilty of developing a MSMQ
  application in which we intend to have the clients assessing a Server using
Dial-up Access on Internet thru the local ISP instead of dialing up the Server
  direcltly thru RAS.

Is it possible to access remote queues(Server Queues) thru independent clients?

Is this scenario supported by MSMQ?

If not, Are there any other alternatives to accomplish the same?

This problem has arisen coz the IP addresses are dynamically assigned by the
local ISP's.

Regards

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> I have set the ReceiveTimeout parameter to 1 and the call to Msg.Receive
> just hangs the computer until the message is put into the queue.  In other
> words it appears to NOT be working.
>
> I am programming in Delphi 4 on an NT 4.0 workstation and our PEC is on
> an NT 4.0 Enterprise Server.  Everything else is working great.  Anybody
> have any ideas?
>

I found that I was compiling OK, but actually running the old registered object.
I had moved my source code from one location to another, which kind of 'setup'
the problem.  Msg.Receive works as advertised.  Do I look good with egg on my
face? :)  Thank you to the two people who responded.  I appreciated your help.

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I have set the ReceiveTimeout parameter to 1 and the call to Msg.Receive
just hangs the computer until the message is put into the queue.  In other
words it appears to NOT be working.

I am programming in Delphi 4 on an NT 4.0 workstation and our PEC is on
an NT 4.0 Enterprise Server.  Everything else is working great.  Anybody
have any ideas?

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Serializable implements IPersistStreamInit.  This functionality is fixed in
MSMQ for SP4.

Ta,

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Berkovich [mailto:stan@...]
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 5:07 PM
To: Keith Schaab; msmq@egroups.com
Subject: [msmq] Re: MSMQ and J++


This is exactly the sort of code I was using before, and it didn't work back
then.  That was circa SDK 2.01.  I also seem to remember having to use some
proxy-ref method.  Has this functionality changed recently (with SDK 3.1 or
NT4SP4)?

I'll try it again soon to confirm.

Thanks,

	 Stan Berkovich
	 stan@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Schaab [mailto:keithsc@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:45 PM
> To: 'stan@...'; msmq@egroups.com; 'JT Klopcic'
> Subject: RE: [msmq] Re: MSMQ and J++
>
>
> If you define your class as implements Serializable then you
> can send your
> components via MSMQ.
>
> import java.io.*;
>
> class x implements Serializable
> {
> //...
> }
>
> source:
>
> //...
> public void SendObject(x comObject, MSMQQueue mqQueue) {
>  MSMQMessage mqMessage = new MSMQMessage;
>  Variant varObject = new Variant(comObject);
>
>  //...
>  mqMessage.setBody(varObject);
>  //...
> }
>
> public void ReceiveObject(MSMQQueue mqQueue) {
>  Variant varObject = new Variant();
>
>  //...
>  mqMessage.getBody(varObject);
>  x comObject = varObject.getObject();
>  //...
> }
>
> Ta,
>
> Keith Schaab
> Microsoft Developer Support - Microsoft Message Queue Server
> (425) 704-2454 6am - 3pm Pacific Time
> Manager: Vince Hampton
> Pager: 1-800-759-8888 PIN #: 1642235
>
> Your satisfaction is important to us. Please email
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This is exactly the sort of code I was using before, and it didn't work back
then.  That was circa SDK 2.01.  I also seem to remember having to use some
proxy-ref method.  Has this functionality changed recently (with SDK 3.1 or
NT4SP4)?

I'll try it again soon to confirm.

Thanks,

	 Stan Berkovich
	 stan@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Schaab [mailto:keithsc@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:45 PM
> To: 'stan@...'; msmq@egroups.com; 'JT Klopcic'
> Subject: RE: [msmq] Re: MSMQ and J++
>
>
> If you define your class as implements Serializable then you
> can send your
> components via MSMQ.
>
> import java.io.*;
>
> class x implements Serializable
> {
> //...
> }
>
> source:
>
> //...
> public void SendObject(x comObject, MSMQQueue mqQueue) {
>  MSMQMessage mqMessage = new MSMQMessage;
>  Variant varObject = new Variant(comObject);
>
>  //...
>  mqMessage.setBody(varObject);
>  //...
> }
>
> public void ReceiveObject(MSMQQueue mqQueue) {
>  Variant varObject = new Variant();
>
>  //...
>  mqMessage.getBody(varObject);
>  x comObject = varObject.getObject();
>  //...
> }
>
> Ta,
>
> Keith Schaab
> Microsoft Developer Support - Microsoft Message Queue Server
> (425) 704-2454 6am - 3pm Pacific Time
> Manager: Vince Hampton
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>
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If you define your class as implements Serializable then you can send your
components via MSMQ.

import java.io.*;

class x implements Serializable
{
//...
}

source:

//...
public void SendObject(x comObject, MSMQQueue mqQueue) {
	 MSMQMessage mqMessage = new MSMQMessage;
	 Variant varObject = new Variant(comObject);

	 //...
	 mqMessage.setBody(varObject);
	 //...
}

public void ReceiveObject(MSMQQueue mqQueue) {
	 Variant varObject = new Variant();

	 //...
	 mqMessage.getBody(varObject);
	 x comObject = varObject.getObject();
	 //...
}

Ta,

Keith Schaab
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Berkovich [mailto:stan@...]
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 8:41 AM
To: msmq@egroups.com
Subject: [msmq] Re: MSMQ and J++


I fell back to using Java serialization and safe-arrays after many attempts
at using the method you described below.  There was also some discussion of
this on the Java-COM mailing list, but I don't think anyone actually
succeeded in using the built-in IPersist* interfaces with Java objects being
sent and received from Java.

I have heard that people have had success in using the built-in interface
approach for sending Java-implemented objects from VB and the like (I think
some parts of wfc depend on some of this working).  The problem seems to be
getting the objects back out within Java, and casting them as Java objects
of the original class (as you've discovered).

It would be nice if someone at the MSMQ group could provide some definitive
advice in this area...

	 Stan Berkovich
	 stan@...
	 Bedouin, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JT Klopcic [mailto:jtk_1997@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:20 AM
> To: msmq@egroups.com
> Subject: [msmq] MSMQ and J++
>
>
>
> I'm trying to serialize a Java Object in J++ and then send it
> via MSMQ.  I can get the object into a Variant using
> putObject, but when I receive the message (on the same
> machine), I get a "Class Not Registered" exception.  However,
> the object class has been registered using javareg, and the
> .class file is in the Java/TrustLib directory.
>
> Is it possible to easily send Java objects via MSMQ?  I'm
> thinking that an alternative would be to serialize the object
> to a byte array and send it that way, bypassing the whole COM mess.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>      - JTK
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I fell back to using Java serialization and safe-arrays after many attempts
at using the method you described below.  There was also some discussion of
this on the Java-COM mailing list, but I don't think anyone actually
succeeded in using the built-in IPersist* interfaces with Java objects being
sent and received from Java.

I have heard that people have had success in using the built-in interface
approach for sending Java-implemented objects from VB and the like (I think
some parts of wfc depend on some of this working).  The problem seems to be
getting the objects back out within Java, and casting them as Java objects
of the original class (as you've discovered).

It would be nice if someone at the MSMQ group could provide some definitive
advice in this area...

	 Stan Berkovich
	 stan@...
	 Bedouin, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JT Klopcic [mailto:jtk_1997@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:20 AM
> To: msmq@egroups.com
> Subject: [msmq] MSMQ and J++
>
>
>
> I'm trying to serialize a Java Object in J++ and then send it
> via MSMQ.  I can get the object into a Variant using
> putObject, but when I receive the message (on the same
> machine), I get a "Class Not Registered" exception.  However,
> the object class has been registered using javareg, and the
> .class file is in the Java/TrustLib directory.
>
> Is it possible to easily send Java objects via MSMQ?  I'm
> thinking that an alternative would be to serialize the object
> to a byte array and send it that way, bypassing the whole COM mess.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>      - JTK
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I'm trying to serialize a Java Object in J++ and then send it via MSMQ.  I can
get the object into a Variant using putObject, but when I receive the message
(on the same machine), I get a "Class Not Registered" exception.  However, the
object class has been registered using javareg, and the .class file is in the
Java/TrustLib directory.

Is it possible to easily send Java objects via MSMQ?  I'm thinking that an
alternative would be to serialize the object to a byte array and send it that
way, bypassing the whole COM mess.

Thoughts?

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At 07:56 AM 9/14/98 -0600, Alan Dickman wrote:
>You can only open a queue to send messages with a Direct Format Name.
>This is documented in the Reference entry for MQOpenQueue()
>

Alan's phrasing is maybe a little bit confusing.  When you have opened a
queue using a direct format name, you may only send messages to it.  If you
open a queue using public or private format, you may send and/or (receive
xor peek)

(There is an exception, the dead letter queues may only be opened for
receive using a direct format name.  Do not use SHARE_DENY_RECEIVE unless
you are amused by blue screens)

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You can only open a queue to send messages with a Direct Format Name.
This is documented in the Reference entry for MQOpenQueue()

Ramacciotti Andrea wrote:

> First of all I would like to thank you for the support gave me so far.
>
> Unfortunatelly the problem still persists.
> In both way, either using the name SRVMARINA or the IP address I've the
> same error message:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> MSMQQueueInfo error 'c00e0020'
>
> The requested operation for the specified format name is not supported
> (e.g., delete a direct queue format name).
>
> //global.asa, line 101
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> That happens only when I open the queue in RECEIVE or PEEK mode, but if
> I open the queue in SEND mode everything goes well.
>
> I'll be waiting for other support from you.
> Thank you for now.
>
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First of all I would like to thank you for the support gave me so far.

Unfortunatelly the problem still persists.
In both way, either using the name SRVMARINA or the IP address I've the
same error message:

-------------------------------------------------------
MSMQQueueInfo error 'c00e0020'

The requested operation for the specified format name is not supported
(e.g., delete a direct queue format name).

//global.asa, line 101
-------------------------------------------------------

That happens only when I open the queue in RECEIVE or PEEK mode, but if
I open the queue in SEND mode everything goes well.

I'll be waiting for other support from you.
Thank you for now.

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You address specifier is wrong.  For TCP, MSMQ expects

    DIRECT=TCP:target_machine_IP_address\coda_out1

Ramacciotti Andrea wrote:

> About using the Direct format name to open a queue, I've tried to use
> the following code, running on a Microsoft IIS Web Server, to open a
> queue that was created by another application (with the PathName
> "SRVMARINA\coda_out1"):

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About using the Direct format name to open a queue, I've tried to use
the following code, running on a Microsoft IIS Web Server, to open a
queue that was created by another application (with the PathName
"SRVMARINA\coda_out1"):
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Sub Session_OnStart

Set msmqinfo = Server.CreateObject("MSMQ.MSMQQueueInfo")
msmqinfo.Formatname = "DIRECT=TCP:SRVMARINA\coda_out1"
Set Session("RecvQueue") = msmqinfo.Open(32, 0)

End Sub
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
The result is the following error message:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
MSMQQueueInfo error 'c00e0020'

The requested operation for the specified format name is not supported
(e.g., delete a direct queue format name).

//global.asa, line 101
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------------------------------------
Did I do anything wrong or do you thing something is missing?

Thanks in advance.

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FOLLEREAU wrote:

> I am a beginner with MSMQ
> and What we have to know about MSMQ performance ?
> does MSMQ have a bad respond time ?
> we will plan to use MSMQ, with Intranet project, and with MTS 2.0 to do
asynchronous programming.
> but if we have to wait ??? ms  to send data to a MTS component, it is not
thinkable.
> perhaps someone have some numbers, about performance...

Microsoft offers a white paper on MSMQ entitled Optimizing Performance
in a Microsoft Message Queue Server Environment. In that paper, Microsoft
talks about some of the optimizations that they have put into MSMQ and some
things developers can do to optimize their use of MSMQ.  The paper also
reports performance statistics.

I also ran some performance tests on standard desktop systems for an appendix
of my book. Response time is excellent when TCP/IP is set up properly. I was
able to send nearly 20,000 express messages per second on a local system.
Your performance will depend on a lot of factors including:
- whether you use express or recoverable messages
- are you sending/receiving messages within a transaction
- are you sending locally or remotely
- is your application single or multi-threaded

Reponse time is slowed by the DTC which appears to include a synchronous
wait time while transactions commit. I was able to send 5 transactional messages
per second in a single-threaded program. Multi-threaded programs can do up to
100 transactional messages per second.
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Use multiple-threads to send and receive messages from the queues.  We have
done extensive testing sending to the queues and receiving from the queues
and inserting to SQL Server, threads made a huge difference (we used C++
CreateThread() to dedicate each thread to handle a msmq RECEIVE OR SEND).
Remember that the send and receive API calls are thread safe.  Note also
that if you have multiple CPUs the performance go way up.  Make sure to do
some tests with Transaction messages.  The performance will be affected
since these kind of messages are written to the file system (I/O) before the
next destination is allowed to take place!!

Good luck!!

Hassan Dehmani
Lexis-Nexis
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 5:59 AM
> To: msmq@...
> Subject: [msmq] MSMQ performance
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am a beginner with MSMQ
> and What we have to know about MSMQ performance ?
> does MSMQ have a bad respond time ?
> we will plan to use MSMQ, with Intranet project, and with MTS 2.0 to do
> asynchronous programming.
> but if we have to wait ??? ms  to send data to a MTS component, it is not
> thinkable.
> perhaps someone have some numbers, about performance...
>
> thanks and best regards.
> Denis.
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Hello everyone,

I am a beginner with MSMQ
and What we have to know about MSMQ performance ?
does MSMQ have a bad respond time ?
we will plan to use MSMQ, with Intranet project, and with MTS 2.0 to do
asynchronous programming.
but if we have to wait ??? ms  to send data to a MTS component, it is not
thinkable.
perhaps someone have some numbers, about performance...

thanks and best regards.
Denis.

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I've taken a look through the configuration and I didn't have anything set for
the routing. It allows me to set the In Routing Server to my PEC but when I try
to set the Out Routing Server, it comes back and says "Computer kwserver is not
running Windows NT Server, Enterprise Edition."

I have been checking the settings through the MQ Explorer. Is there something
that needs to be set on the Independant Client end? I looked at the MSMQ Object
in the Control Panel, but there doesn't seem to be anything that would pertain
to this problem...

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If it is a network problem, you can try a doing a tracert which will show
what machines TCP/IP packets are going through and the amount of time it
takes to make the hop.\

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Kenneth Wiley wrote:

> I have created a simple app in VB5 to try out MSMQ. It creates and opens a
> queue and listens for messages using enableNotification. It also looks for
> any queues with "Messaging Queue" as a label and posts messages to them. This
> works great when I run instances of the apps on the PEC, which happens to be
> my development machine.
>
> The problem that I am having is when I move a copy of the app onto another
> machine which is set up as an Independant Client within the same domain. It
> takes over a minute to perform the Open of the queue! When it eventually does
> it, it then takes almost exactly 4 seconds to send a message.
>

Willi Berger wrote:

> I seem to recall that there were some examples for specifying the target
> machine that would allow you to by pass the PEC.   Have you tried this?

You can use a DIRECT= format name, but you shouldn't have to. This
sounds like some kind of configuration problem unrelated to MSMQ.
Why? Well... I haven't seen this problem reported previously.  What is
going on the network or system? Do you have Intra-site routing
configured?

I only operate MSMQ servers, but an open and a send are instantaneous.

If you'd like send some email with more details. If you want, I can have a
look at your code.
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Are you refering to the "direct" form of address that I have seen mentioned (but
don't know a lot about)?



>I seem to recall that there were some examples for specifying the target
> machine that would allow you to by pass the PEC.   Have you tried this?
>
> Willi
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I seem to recall that there were some examples for specifying the target
machine that would allow you to by pass the PEC.   Have you tried this?

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Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 3:49 PM
Subject: [msmq] Problem with Open


>If there is anybody out there...
>
>I have created a simple app in VB5 to try out MSMQ. It creates and opens a
queue and listens for messages using enableNotification. It also looks for
any queues with "Messaging Queue" as a label and posts messages to them.
This works great when I run instances of the apps on the PEC, which happens
to be my development machine.
>
>The problem that I am having is when I move a copy of the app onto another
machine which is set up as an Independant Client within the same domain. It
takes over a minute to perform the Open of the queue! When it eventually
does it, it then takes almost exactly 4 seconds to send a message.
>
>I've gone over the security setup but cn't see anything to adjust...
>
>Any suggestions?
>
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If there is anybody out there...

I have created a simple app in VB5 to try out MSMQ. It creates and opens a queue
and listens for messages using enableNotification. It also looks for any queues
with "Messaging Queue" as a label and posts messages to them. This works great
when I run instances of the apps on the PEC, which happens to be my development
machine.

The problem that I am having is when I move a copy of the app onto another
machine which is set up as an Independant Client within the same domain. It
takes over a minute to perform the Open of the queue! When it eventually does
it, it then takes almost exactly 4 seconds to send a message.

I've gone over the security setup but cn't see anything to adjust...

Any suggestions?

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Jason

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