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Re: [mtt-11] Re: What is the Most Practical Method to Add Optical Capabilities to an 8510C?

Hello Fei,

        It still is very difficult to measure scattering parameters with non-contact means. Nevertheless you might find this paper our group wrote on the subject interesting.
    • D.F. Williams, P.D. Hale, T.S. Clement, and J.M. Morgan, "Calibrated 200 GHz Waveform Measurement," IEEE Trans. Microwave Theory and Tech ., vol. 53, no. 4, pp. 1384-1389, April, 2005.


      Dylan


      At 08:03 AM 2/25/2008, you wrote:

      Are you guys talking about the contactless probing solution? Sorry
      about that if not.

      A few years back, I heard that people used optoelectronic probe to do
      [S] measurements without mechanical contacts? Is it getting more and
      more practical and feasible?

      Thanks
      Fei
      --- In mtt-11@yahoogroups.com, Dylan Williams <dylan@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hello Cory,
      >
      > If you are interested in power calibrations, I think that
      Agilent,
      > New Focus, Newport, U2t, perhaps other options exist. Some of these
      might
      > have phase calibrations as well, probably measured with an
      oscilloscope.
      >
      > For magnitude and phase calibrations with mismatch
      corrections
      > traceable to electro-optic sampling, as far as I know, only NIST
      and
      > Anritsu have anything to offer. Our calibrations are quite
      difficult and
      > time consuming, so I think that Anritsu might be a better choice
      for you.
      >
      > I hope that is helpful,
      >
      > Dylan
      >
      > At 01:01 PM 7/31/2007, you wrote:
      >
      >
      > >Dylan,
      > >
      > >I contacted Anritsu, and they only support 1550nm for now, and
      their list
      > >price is about 25K. Do you know of any other vendors that are
      selling
      > >calibrated photodiodes (I think Agilent is only selling full
      systems)? Can
      > >you give me an order of magnitude estimate as to how much would it
      cost
      > >from NIST?
      > >
      > >Thanks,
      > >Cory
      > >
      > >Dylan Williams
      > ><< mailto:dylan%40boulder.ni>dylan@...
      > >st.gov> To
      > >Sent by: < mailto:mtt-11%40yahoogroups.com>mtt-11@yahoogroups.com
      > >mtt-11@yahoogroup cc
      > >s.com
      > >Subject
      > >Re: [mtt-11] What is the Most
      > >07/31/2007 07:38 Practical Method to Add Optical
      > >AM Capabilities to an 8510C?
      > >
      > >
      > >Please respond to
      > >mtt-11@yahoogroup
      > >s.com
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Hello Cory,
      > >
      > >I believe that you are correct that the most inexpensive way to
      > >proceed is to use a calibrated photodiode. I am not sure how much
      Anritsu
      > >sells their calibrated photodiodes for, but I would imagine that
      would be
      > >less expensive than purchasing a photodiode and calibration
      directly from
      > >NIST.
      > >
      > >Dylan
      > >
      > >At 07:25 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote:
      > >
      > >Hi,
      > >
      > >I am looking into what is the most practical method to add optical
      > >capabilities to my 8510C. I need to be able to measure
      communication
      > >laser diodes and photodiodes over the wavelength range of 850nm to
      > >1550nm (from 1Gbps to 10Gbps). I don't have the budget to purchase
      > >an off the shelf lightwave component analyzer (especially since I
      > >probably need more than one to cover this range), so I am looking
      > >into adding calibrated laser sources and detectors to my existing
      > >VNA. From what I gather the biggest challenge is to calibrate the
      > >detector, and then that can be used to calibrate the source.
      > >
      > >I see many papers regarding calibrating photodetectors, but this
      > >seems to be fairly involved. Is this the only practical option, or
      > >does anyone sell reasonably priced calibrated photodetectors? So
      > >far, I have only seen a single wavelength model by Anritsu.
      > >
      > >For the light source, is there anything good that is commercially
      > >available, or am I best off building something myself. For home
      > >built, is it better to directly modulate or use and external
      > >modulator?
      > >
      > >Any feedback is appreciated.
      > >
      > >Thanks,
      > >Cory
      > >
      > >-----------------------------------------------------
      > >Dylan Williams << mailto:dylan%40boulder.nist.gov>dylan@...>
      > >NIST 818.01 << mailto:dylan%40ieee.org>dylan@...>
      > >325 Broadway [+1] (303)497-3138 (TEL)
      > >Boulder CO 80305 USA [+1] (303)497-3970 (FAX)
      >
      >< http://www.boulder.nist.gov/dylan/ > http://www.boulder.nist.gov/dylan
      /
      > >-----------------------------------------------------
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      > -----------------------------------------------------
      > Dylan Williams <dylan@...>
      > NIST 818.01 <dylan@...>
      > 325 Broadway [+1] (303)497-3138 (TEL)
      > Boulder CO 80305 USA [+1] (303)497-3970 (FAX)
      > http://www.boulder.nist.gov/dylan/
      > -----------------------------------------------------
      >



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      Dylan Williams               <dylan@...>
      NIST 818.01                  <dylan@...>
      325 Broadway                 [+1] (303)497-3138 (TEL)
      Boulder CO 80305 USA         [+1] (303)497-3970 (FAX)
      http://www.boulder.nist.gov/dylan/
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Hi, I am looking into what is the most practical method to add optical capabilities to my 8510C. I need to be able to measure communication laser diodes and...
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Jul 31, 2007
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Hello Cory, I believe that you are correct that the most inexpensive way to proceed is to use a calibrated photodiode. I am not sure how much Anritsu sells...
Dylan Williams
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Dylan, I contacted Anritsu, and they only support 1550nm for now, and their list price is about 25K. Do you know of any other vendors that are selling ...
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Hello Cory, If you are interested in power calibrations, I think that Agilent, New Focus, Newport, U2t, perhaps other options exist. Some of these might have...
Dylan Williams
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Are you guys talking about the contactless probing solution? Sorry about that if not. A few years back, I heard that people used optoelectronic probe to do ...
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Feb 26, 2008
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Hello Fei, It still is very difficult to measure scattering parameters with non-contact means. Nevertheless you might find this paper our group wrote on the...
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