Marc,

"Marc Gauvin" <mgauvin@sdae.net> writes:

> The requirement you posted states:
>
> "The ontology should be implementable without the need to pay
> royalties."
>
> This statement does not distinguish between access to the
> Ontology itself from "implementations" of the Ontology in
> applications that may require charges even if it is simply to
> recuperate costs. I think this distinction is necessary.

I think that your distinction is nonsense. Let me explain.

An ontology is a formal specification of a shared conceptualisation.

My requirement means that a formal specification of a shared
conceptualisation (of copyright) should be implementable without the
need to pay royalties.

As Leonardo said, the MVCO, a conceptualisation (of copyright) shared
by the MPEG members, will become a standard.

> But even it that were to be made clear, I am not sure that such a
> policy statement should be included as a technical requirement as
> it says nothing about the viability of proposals. There may very
> well be cases where some sort of royalty may be involved and
> where said royalties in and of themselves do not make the
> proposals inviable.

My requirement is not a policy statement. The rationale is that the
MVCO standard should be independent of economical constraints.

The MVCO is a conceptualisation of copyright. Copyright is law. Law is
a system of rules to be enforced through a set of institutions. It
shapes politics, economics and society in numerous ways [1].

There may be other standards where some sort of royalties are
involved. But how could an MVCO shape politics, economics and society
if users had to pay royalties to apply the law? I am afraid that the
"power to shape society in the digital space" would depend on the
value-chain users' economical power. Such a standard would diverge
from my understanding of law.

yours sincerely,
Martin Springer

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law

> __________________________________________________________
>
> De: mvco@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mvco@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de
> Martin Springer
> Enviado el: miércoles, 23 de abril de 2008 16:48
> Para: mvco@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: Re: [mvco] Revised Requirement of Media Value Chains Ontology
>
> Marc, All,
> "Marc Gauvin" <mgauvin@sdae.net> writes:
> > "royalty free implementation" can be misunderstood as the
> > ontology itself may be royalty free as in access to the OWL file
> > however the application that implements the OWL cannot be
> > guaranteed to be royalty free.
> "Royalty free implementatable" requires that an implementation of the
> ontology without paying royalties CAN EXIST. Please note that I did
> not require that ANY implementation of the ontology should be royalty
> free.
> > Requierment 13 "Unfettered Access" covers much of what I
> > understand is the intent behind your requirement for "royalty
> > free implementation" in that technically access to the logic
> > contained in say the OWL file needs to be easily accessible to
> > any application in order for the ontology to gain widespread
> > acceptance.
> Three months ago I posted my requirement on this list. So far nobody
> disagreed with it. Now you talk about "access to OWL files and
> applications that implement the OWL". I don't understand what the
> access to OWL files has to do with my requirement but I presume that
> you misunderstood my requirement.
> > Can you suggest a new wording that avoids confusing access to the
> > ontology with access to implementations of the ontology?
> I believe that my wording is very clear. Therefore I suggest that my
> requirement will be added to the list without any changes.
> yours sincerely,
> Martin Springer
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