I'm wondering if the moderation policy and charter for mwm aren't
being enforced with a bit too much zeal. For example, there was a
mini-thread about unscrupulous recruiters a few weeks ago that
got shut down very quickly by one of the moderators. The thread
was interesting, it was civil ... it just wasn't focussed tightly
enough on writing.
While I think it can be great to have such tight focus, I also
think that newsgroup participants need a little room to breathe.
Given that the annual review of the moderation policy is overdue
(!), I'd like to propose that some of the zeal be relaxed, that
posts be acceptable as long as they a) conform to the charter's
requirements for civility toward fellow posters and b) pertain in
some way to writing. And here I don't mean "pertain to writing"
in the mw sense of "it's a post and I wrote it so it's
writing-related", but rather in some more substantive way. The
criterion I'd like to suggest as a starting point is "is of
interest to writers".
The main moderation questions would then would not be
-- Is it substantially about writing?
-- Is it civil?
but
-- Is it civil?
-- is it of interest to writers?
My goal is to give people some breathing space, to encourage
discussion, and maybe breathe a little life into the group.
Note: This is not a call for a vote. It's a call for discussion.
Can one of you moderator-types post an [ADMIN] notice about this
discussion so that all 5 active posters can get in on the mailing
list action?
I'm wondering if the moderation policy and charter for mwm aren't being enforced with a bit too much zeal. For example, there was a mini-thread about...
I'm wondering if the moderation policy and charter for mwm aren't being enforced with a bit too much zeal. As the one person who responded to that note about...
... wrote: ... I tend to agree that there is room within the present mod policy, and, really, it should be a matter of using this Yahoo forum to express your...
miatagrl2003
scribblinlizard@...
Dec 2, 2003 10:00 pm
... I was the moderator who closed that thread, and I've just gone back and looked at it. The original post started out with a comment on being a tech writer;...
... and ... being a ... (and ... not ... the ... I know that on moderated groups and lists I've participated in in the past, mods would warn the thread prior...
miatagrl2003
scribblinlizard@...
Dec 3, 2003 3:25 am
I know that on moderated groups and lists I've participated in in the past, mods would warn the thread prior to closing it, and participants had the...
... wrote: ... Well, alrighty then! It's pretty clear to me: 1. The moderation policy is just fine. The *purpose* of the group is for writing discussions....
miatagrl2003
scribblinlizard@...
Dec 4, 2003 2:02 am
Count me as another who lurks. (Well, I have posted a couple of times.) I like this set of suggestions. The very reason that I lurk here and not on mw is...
... Given the current narrow focus of the moderation in mwm, I agree with you. Your decision was wholly consistent with moderation norms in mwm. I also happen...
... I think it will always be a right moderator decision that keeps threads from violating the charter. That's what a moderated forum is all about, and the...
... Consider the true effect of a "closed thread." People can, in fact, still post there. What's the difference between closing a thread and asking people to...
... The difference, in my mind, is the weight of the moderator hand. Sure, people *can* continue to post in a "closed" thread; it's why thread closure is lower...
Consider the true effect of a "closed thread." People can, in fact, still post there. What's the difference between closing a thread and asking people to...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:25:40 -0500 (EST), Carol wrote: <snip some good points about moderation> ... Agreed. David, I should have made it clear that my comments...
I was the moderator who closed that thread, and I've just gone back and looked at it. The original post started out with a comment on being a tech writer; the...
... That was the only capacity in which =he= was submitting a resume, but I saw nothing to indicate to me that the scam was specifically targeted at writers...
R.L., aka Mary Ezzell, has asked me to post this as YahooGroups doesn't seem to be letting her through. ... I missed much of the discussion but would like to...
... doesn't seem ... mean super ... No, but a post still must be on-topic to a substantial degree in order to comply with the charter. It's not the mods place...
stanrkid
stanrkid@...
Dec 17, 2003 8:07 pm
... <...> ... in every ... they ... important ... more ... As *I* am reading her suggestion, it is that she'd like to see some entirely off-topic cocktail...
miatagrl2003
scribblinlizard@...
Dec 30, 2003 3:18 am
... I don't think so (but then, as a mod I wopuldn't, would I?) though I hear what Barbara says about the recent thread. ... Oops. In fact double oops because...
I'm aware from other posts in this thread that I've not been receiving the entire set of messages posted (for what reason I know not). It's therefore possible...
... Your first message came through on my system. I've been waiting for someone else to respond, but what the heck. ... I can't really say what I'd like to see...
... Y'know, I've _never_ seen anyone moderated out for what you're suggesting above. Ever. I've seen some bits of chatter that stay mostly on-topic, with...
miatagrl2003
scribblinlizard@...
Dec 7, 2003 2:40 am
... It happened just a couple of weeks ago -- well, depending on what you mean by someone being "moderated out". I'm not sure I really know what that means,...
... While that may be, I've not seen anyone mention during this discussion that the reason they don't post with any frequency is because of any dissatisfaction...
stanrkid
stanrkid@...
Dec 7, 2003 5:34 pm
... Thank you, sir. One more, please, sir. ..... <ow> -- Paul Harwood...
... Ssooo ... it wasn't that it was *on topic* but playful, or chummy, or even a bit chatty. It was off-topic, and then closed? Again, I _do_ hope the mods...
miatagrl2003
scribblinlizard@...
Dec 8, 2003 12:49 am
... Right. Started on topic, drifted off for a post or two, and that was that. Hence my statement, "Allowing for some small amount of bonhomie and...