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Re: [mwm@Yahoo] An observation and a modest proposal

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:03:46 -0600, David wrote:

>I was the moderator who closed that thread, and I've just gone back and
>looked at it. The original post started out with a comment on being a
>tech writer; the rest of the thread, including all three responses (and
>there were three, not just one), was about job recruiters. It did not
>seem to me that the scams under discussion were those specifically
>targeted at writers, since only the beginning of the first post in the
>thread said anything about writing. I still think I made the right
>decision.

Given the current narrow focus of the moderation in mwm, I agree
with you. Your decision was wholly consistent with moderation
norms in mwm. I also happen to believe that the group can remain
true to the spirit of its charter with less strict moderation. My
hope is that, with a somewhat freer rein, we might attract more
participants and the group will come to life.

--
Paul Harwood



Wed Dec 3, 2003 4:01 am

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Count me as another who lurks. (Well, I have posted a couple of times.) I like this set of suggestions. The very reason that I lurk here and not on mw is...
Kathy Jacobs
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Dec 4, 2003
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... Given the current narrow focus of the moderation in mwm, I agree with you. Your decision was wholly consistent with moderation norms in mwm. I also happen...
Paul Harwood
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Dec 3, 2003
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... I think it will always be a right moderator decision that keeps threads from violating the charter. That's what a moderated forum is all about, and the...
Carol Flynt
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Dec 3, 2003
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... Consider the true effect of a "closed thread." People can, in fact, still post there. What's the difference between closing a thread and asking people to...
David M. Harris
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Dec 3, 2003
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... The difference, in my mind, is the weight of the moderator hand. Sure, people *can* continue to post in a "closed" thread; it's why thread closure is lower...
Carol Flynt
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Dec 3, 2003
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Consider the true effect of a "closed thread." People can, in fact, still post there. What's the difference between closing a thread and asking people to...
Barbara Lake
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Dec 3, 2003
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:25:40 -0500 (EST), Carol wrote: <snip some good points about moderation> ... Agreed. David, I should have made it clear that my comments...
Paul Harwood
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Dec 3, 2003
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I was the moderator who closed that thread, and I've just gone back and looked at it. The original post started out with a comment on being a tech writer; the...
Barbara Lake
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Dec 3, 2003
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... That was the only capacity in which =he= was submitting a resume, but I saw nothing to indicate to me that the scam was specifically targeted at writers...
jakesdad@...
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Dec 3, 2003
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R.L., aka Mary Ezzell, has asked me to post this as YahooGroups doesn't seem to be letting her through. ... I missed much of the discussion but would like to...
John Ashby
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Dec 17, 2003
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... doesn't seem ... mean super ... No, but a post still must be on-topic to a substantial degree in order to comply with the charter. It's not the mods place...
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... <...> ... in every ... they ... important ... more ... As *I* am reading her suggestion, it is that she'd like to see some entirely off-topic cocktail...
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... I don't think so (but then, as a mod I wopuldn't, would I?) though I hear what Barbara says about the recent thread. ... Oops. In fact double oops because...
John Ashby
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Dec 2, 2003
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I'm aware from other posts in this thread that I've not been receiving the entire set of messages posted (for what reason I know not). It's therefore possible...
John Ashby
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Dec 4, 2003
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... Your first message came through on my system. I've been waiting for someone else to respond, but what the heck. ... I can't really say what I'd like to see...
Paul Harwood
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... Y'know, I've _never_ seen anyone moderated out for what you're suggesting above. Ever. I've seen some bits of chatter that stay mostly on-topic, with...
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... It happened just a couple of weeks ago -- well, depending on what you mean by someone being "moderated out". I'm not sure I really know what that means,...
Paul Harwood
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... Huh? You're an *editor* for pete's sake. How much more ghodlike do you think it gets? I'm with Nancy. Go for it! Carol Flynt...
Carol Flynt
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Dec 7, 2003
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... While that may be, I've not seen anyone mention during this discussion that the reason they don't post with any frequency is because of any dissatisfaction...
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... Thank you, sir. One more, please, sir. ..... <ow> -- Paul Harwood...
Paul Harwood
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... Ssooo ... it wasn't that it was *on topic* but playful, or chummy, or even a bit chatty. It was off-topic, and then closed? Again, I _do_ hope the mods...
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... Right. Started on topic, drifted off for a post or two, and that was that. Hence my statement, "Allowing for some small amount of bonhomie and...
Paul Harwood
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... I still disagree with this. The group is moderated expressly for the purpose of keeping posts *on* charter/on topic. Period. When any post that is clearly...
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Dec 8, 2003
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... Actually, it looks like we might be in agreement. <*Gasp* -- Someone break out the spirits> ... This is pretty much in line with what I went on to say: ...
Paul Harwood
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... All three? That Christmas Future gives me the heeby-jeebies. I'm just sayin'....
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Dec 9, 2003
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... Very nearly. Where there is still some *significant* writing-related content left in a mostly *off* topic post, I can see the mods keeping a bit of a wary...
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... keeping ... is ... warning ... Having not seen any discussion on this for several days, I guess a decision of some sort was made? I am curious: will the...
miatagrl2003
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Dec 14, 2003
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... I'm not sure that's the answer. I agree that one would think that those people who fought so vociferously for mwm's creation on the basis that *they*...
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Dec 16, 2003
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This backchannel discussion was, imo, an attempt (if not intended, certainly de facto) to make mwm more like mw. The charter does not allow that. MWM is...
Barbara Lake
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Dec 16, 2003
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... certainly de facto) to make mwm more like mw. The charter does not allow that. MWM is exactly as it was created to be. ... make mwm more like mw. Many do...
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