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For those of you who don't know, Eric is one of the more famous OU skeptics.  He's the one who appeared recently on Discovery's special on Dennis Lee's HAFC technology.  He also happens to be one of the founding members of our New Energy Congress.
 
This is quite a statement he's made here.
 
 
Sterling
 
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Criteria for claiming "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor"

Sterling,

   At this point, he shouldn't have to do a damn thing - if the plans are out, it can be easily and ubiquitously  replicated.   Then people of science and engineering could really understand it, exploit the principal, scale it up, improve efficiency and mass produce it cheaply and distribute it widely.   The kind of genius's who do those more common steps are quite different people than the inventors.   If this is made to really work, I'll plan on splitting my prize, 5K for the first person to show me it (with say around a Kw of output - I'll negotiate less if we can keep hidden areas way down) and 5K to Mylow or the charity of his choice if getting a lot of money would upset him.    That said, I'm more inclined to believe he has faked things so far and is way over his head and wants to go off and hide.   But if it is real, it is a golden new age for mankind and we in the civilized progressive world no longer need to go broke paying trillions to those who hate us for poison that kills us and our planet.   If I really see it working in a way I can verify no tricks, I can easily get my Dateline or 20/20 or USA Today contacts to front page this in short order.   Let me know when someone is really willing to openly show a self runner to skeptics and I can line up a few credible people to take a look - if they say yes, I'll fly out and see for myself.   At that point, I would go on a crusade to get the mainstream crowd to buy in.   I just need real proof to know it's not just the 100th OU scam out there.

Eric Krieg  (may be posted anywhere)


May 15, 2009 02:45:53 AM, sterlingda@... wrote:
Once the replicators get going, they can jump on these kinds of things easily.  Mylow is not a scientist, so things like this go against his nature.  He's and intuitive artist inventor, and skepticism is like poison to his heart.  Just because others have been frauds doesn't mean he is.  What's in it for him?  All he's gotten so far is a lot more grief than he would have ever imagined would be possible.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: eric krieg
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [mylow_magmo] Criteria for claiming "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor"

Sterling,

     I would love to go from leading critic to leading supporter of just one of these kinds of claims.  Given the long history of fraud and lunacy with claims like this, I'm glad we agree that more validation is necessary.   I've never been convinced by offers of video's and warning flags go up over the avoidance of having independent people see it first hand.    The lack of replication makes me feel uneasy - so does the simplicity of it: something that simple should have been tried many times by the thousands of tinkerers who each labor over dozens of years.
      While he is only showing video's, I recommend a few easy things that could assuage some skepticism:
      
  • have a hanging mobile of light colored yarn right near by to rule out and   off camera air blast   
  • if you do it near a wall, hang some pieces of ferrous metal to rule out a   hidden electro magnet   
  • take it apart at the end of the video - particularly the shaft and   bearings that support it and could easily secret a motor   
  • try to use a more transparent base - the less potential hiding places, the   better   
  • tell me the name of the nearest city and allow me to line up a credible   independent observer
If people believe there are MIBs trying to stop it, just send me the plans and I will post them so wide on the internet that the poor MIB's would have to be reassigned to UFO coverup or something else.

best wishes,
Eric Krieg


Sterling D. Allan wrote:
I agree that third party validation by a   qualified person should be part of the criteria for staking a claim in the   "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor".  However, I   don't think it should be a pre-requisite to making the announcement.  It   should only be a requirement for securing the honor.
  
 
  
A fun fourth step would be to invite Eric Krieg   over to see it and claim his $10,000 prize.  Mylow wouldn't be interested   in that, as he's not motivated by money.  If anything, it's a put off to   him when people try to dangle it in front of him as if it would be enticing to   him.
  
 
  
It would be appropriate, in keeping with the   "caveat" of this open source project (put forth by myself, not Mylow) for at   least 3% of that award to come as a royalty to the project.
  
 
  
Sterling
  
 
  
 



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