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Back to the Future - The Improved House of Hamel   Message List  
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Re: Back to the Future - The Improved House of Hamel

All the Fruit Bowl videos had the magnet+ball bearing (Pinball) span by hand
first and then the gate placed over the top.

My conclusion as stated elsewhere is that I think it is a nice low friction
bearing.

I showed on the first few videos that it eventually stopped and the 4th was cut
short, because I was bored of filming to prove to sceptics that I was not using
a airline etc etc.

I think my track record will show anyone out there that I am not in this OU
search for playing foolish pranks and trying to con people. I just want to prove
if people claims work or do not by building.
The day I see a self runner, then you will see fireworks and info put out
everywhere. But till then I will show it as it is.

The Hamel/Bedini spinner does have something strange about it as anyone who has
tried a static setup will tell you, as indeed it does come to a halt but it
seems to blip and accelerate at certain points if you watch it close enough.

This little experiment is easy for anyone to try, so rather than be a sofa
experimenter. Go splash out very litle money and have a go.

1 Ring magnet
1 Pinball
12/13 magnets taped around a piece of PVC drainpipe.

Then vary the height for the static setup and spin it up.

Back to the not so in-expensive replication projects this end LOL

Cheers

Sean.

--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "fleubis" <shubus23@...> wrote:
>
> It would have been nice if he'd continue to let the camera run until the
spindown was complete.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
> --- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "acg_1001" <acg_1001@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sterling,
> >
> > That 4th video was unbelievable!
> >
> > The only problem I had with it, was that I wanted to see under the table
> > more than 1% of the video and with more angles, and that wasn't shown.
> > As far as "convincing", it was the next best thing to the Mylow videos
> > so far, imo.
> >
> > At least there was a device shown, unlike other recent re-claims...
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > --- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > While the deceleration doesn't bespeak a workable motor at this point,
> > it certainly does spur some interesting thought inasmuch as friction
> > would most surely slow the spin of that ball and washer down much more
> > rapidly.
> > >
> > > ClaNZeR's fourth video on that page is the most convincing.
> > >
> > > Sterling
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: John
> > > To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:06 PM
> > > Subject: [mylow_magmo] Re: Back to the Future - The Improved House of
> > Hamel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John K,
> > > Just for you, do it right.
> > > http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=349
> > > John B
> > >
> > > --- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "John K" mojohnk2000@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I replicated the Hamel design. I made the "top" spin by moving my
> > hand. I also inverted the design by placing the PVC pipe on a turn
> > table. It did not spin. There is white paper that writes off this
> > design. It is toy and nothing more.
> > > >
> > > > I also conducted a similar experiment to John B's using the same PCB
> > pipe. While I could not make any measurements I believe that there an
> > energy gain to be had. However, I am not convinced that this anything to
> > do with a "vortex" or a Eddie B-field. This does not mean that I do have
> > an open mind.
> > > >
> > > > John K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <videovegetable@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Group
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope your days are going as well as expected.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got more questions for open conversation and thought
> > > > >
> > > > > So looking at some of John B's chalk board drawings on the vortex
> > leads me back to some of the information on the web circa 1997
> > concerning a device called the Hamel spinner. Purportably, per an
> > eccentric (as described by some) David Hamel , this technology was
> > communicated to him via space aliens.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, while I'm not a believer in aliens from space in the
> > traditional popular sense, I can accept that some knowledge has been
> > lost, forgotten or purposely obscured (rewritten or otherwise) from our
> > most recent industrial revolution of past decades.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a good day when someone like John B. can take concepts like
> > this and illustrate them in more concise terms.
> > > > >
> > > > > Questions:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. So what ever happend to David Hamel? I'm still relatively new
> > to PMM news and events though PMM's in concept are not that new to me. I
> > see there are even yahoo groups but for some you must be approved to
> > enter them.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. What did Howard Johnson think of the Hamel spinner? I'm sure
> > those of you how knew Howard personally must have had a conversation
> > with him about this during the late 90's. I see references to exact
> > specs on the web regarding the improved version that John B made. Then I
> > see references to others with not so exact specs who also complain about
> > cogging et al..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The gate works just as it is shown so I wonder what would happen
> > if adapted to the mylow motor. I do not have all the tools required, but
> > if I did, I might cut the gate (PVC pipe(s) with mags concentrating the
> > north pole) in half with a space between the two halves to allow the
> > rotor to pass through and stand the bar magnets on end so that north
> > faces the north in relation to the gate. I can already see just using a
> > test magnets that the gate attracts like poles (N to N) so that may be
> > the key. I guess that's why howard had them arranged the way that he
> > did.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I hope to be getting my copy of the DVD 11 soon as I am
> > sure it will only raise more questions for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > thoughts anyone?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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Hi Group Hope your days are going as well as expected. I've got more questions for open conversation and thought So looking at some of John B's chalk board...
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Hi, I replicated the Hamel design. I made the "top" spin by moving my hand. I also inverted the design by placing the PVC pipe on a turn table. It did not...
John K
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John K, Just for you, do it right. http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=349 John B...
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Jun 15, 2009
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John B, Thank you for the links. Yes that unit did work better then mine. The glass bowl worked wonders. In fact it gave me few new ideas to try. Thanks again,...
John K
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I'll keep this in mind when reading your posts. Rick ... This does not mean that I do have an open mind....
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I could care less.......
John K
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While the deceleration doesn't bespeak a workable motor at this point, it certainly does spur some interesting thought inasmuch as friction would most surely...
Sterling D. Allan
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Yeah, I wonder if the metal ball is becoming polarized or maybe some sort of invisible buildup taking place causing the ball to slow down. Curious... Has...
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Sterling, That 4th video was unbelievable! The only problem I had with it, was that I wanted to see under the table more than 1% of the video and with more...
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It would have been nice if he'd continue to let the camera run until the spindown was complete. James...
fleubis
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All the Fruit Bowl videos had the magnet+ball bearing (Pinball) span by hand first and then the gate placed over the top. My conclusion as stated elsewhere is...
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Jun 16, 2009
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... 4th was cut short, >because I was bored of filming to prove to sceptics that I was not using a airline etc etc. I wonder why any sceptic would care about a...
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p.s. The shot of viewing under the table in video #4 lead me to believe that there must be some reason that this video is here to try and prove this is a real...
acg_1001
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It should work both ways. The PVC pipe centered on a turn table should spin when a magnet is positioned above it. ClaNZers vids do not show us if s/he started...
John K
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John K, Where is the white paper?. Could you post it to the group. John B...
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Hi John, I'll try to search for it. John K...
John K
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posted at http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:CLaNZer%27s_Replication_of_the_Hamel_Spinner a.. Featured: Magnet Motors > Hamel > Sean CLaNZer's Replication of the...
Sterling D. Allan
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Hi acg_1001, I think that if you actually tried the experiment yourself you would see that it works. It is very simple to do. Even a large ring magnet a...
Larry Flotow
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Hi Larry, Yes, it "works", or will spin if you move the ring by hand. And yes it "works" if you hand spin it first. I am just waiting for some PMM motor that...
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To All, I guess you have all missed the point of the gate, What does that indictor show you? If you build it right and cause it to fall at the right time the...
John
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John B, I like to read more about this. Can you indicate what book you refer to? Can you give us a title, a link or ISBN number ?...
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Hi all, First I would like to thank Jerry for all his hard work on KeelyNet, I am very appreciative for all the information available here. Well, I have been...
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... indicator, what is it indicating????????? TO me it is indicating that a vortex of energy is present. Two of them, one inside of the other, and one is...
bill.bell68
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TOrroidal magnets have a magnetic vector potential , curreled magnetic vector A field is canceling out the none curreled vector potential B. Localizing the B...
bill.bell68
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... When the ring magnet is surrounded by magnets that do not have a confinded B field the A field of the ring magnet is stretched out murging with the B field...
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Density plays a role in Localizing the B field in one space revieling the A field potential in currel form. The ball bearing is also playing a role. Should we...
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TOrroidal magnets have a magnetic vector potential , curreled magnetic vector A field is canceling out the none curreled vector potential B. Localizing the B...
John
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I think this might be what we are looking for. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov-Bohm_effect...
bill.bell68
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Hi John Here is a odd story that I don't know why this would happen. I have built one some time ago also. Wayne ...
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John Bedini writes: "Also this is not George Green's motor or anybody else, All the lab notes prove who made this gate device 2-22-97 on Keelynet. Why is not...
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