Hi all,
First I would like to thank Jerry for all his hard work on KeelyNet, I am very
appreciative for all the information available here.

Well, I have been toying around with the Hamel spinner. First I fashioned a
Bedini style gate and played around with it. Very cool, that little ball and
magnet spinning all over the tabletop. I must say as I played with this assembly
(which I made from a couple of $ worth of
magnets and a plastic ashtray) I was convinced that this has definite potential,
something about it is very inspiring to me. Anyway so I did some more reading on
Hamel and his ideas (again Jerry thanks for your
site it makes things so much easier) and with a little more knowledge was ready
to experiment. Then my grandmother got very sick and I had no time for myself as
my wife (God bless her) and I moved to take care of
her. Unfortunately she passed away last Thursday. As we were cleaning out her
room searching for insurance policies I came across some refrigerator magnets
and I started thinking about the "spinner" again.
So last night I dug out the magnets made a bigger gate and started spinning.
Still makes me feel like a kid. I then set up the gate on a glass vase (5"dia
6.5" length)
so that there would be minimal if not zero interference from my hands. After
putting the ball/magnet part under glass I watched as it slowly began to rotate
then build speed and bang against the vase walls to stop. Now by slowly sliding
the vase as to keep the ball/magnet
centered I was able to build up some pretty good speed and keep it going
continuously. Now the next thing could have a very simple explanation but
still....
as the ball/magnet was dancing(as I've come to describe it) away under the glass
vase my daughter was playing with my smaller gate and a top magnet. She's gotten
pretty good at keeping the top dancing so it had a
little momentum too. Well all of a sudden her top jumps about 15" and slams into
MY gate on top of the vase and ZZZZZZZZ big sparks!!!
Somebody else needs to try this unfortunately I have been unable to duplicate
this I have no idea of the rpm's of either the ball/magnet or the top other than
fast.


Most likely explanation: sparks were created by friction (like striking flint to
light a fire)
More intriguing explanation: something like discharging a capacitor
So now I am off to check the Hamel and Bedini pages its been awhile since I did
any thinking on this. Anyone else working on this or have any ideas to throw my
way I would appreciate it. I have some free time now and dedicated to testing
and research though on limited funding.
Thanks,
crowekri

The Book is,,

The Granite Man and the Butterfly' by Jeanne Manning and Pierre Sinclair.

As many people were asking all the same basic questions it was felt that a book
describing all related events would be a worthwhile venture. A journalist called
Jeanne Manning, who had studied free energy devices for fifteen years, agreed to
assist in writing the book. The title of which, "The Granite Man and the
Butterfly", had nothing to do with either marathons or entomology, but rather
two of the "keys" to David Hamel's earlier models. The book makes fascinating
reading insofar that it provides an insight into a more than puzzling past of
the inventor. Indeed, at times one may be convinced that it is a piece of
history that combines the horrors of war, prison camp, escape, "blanket" bombing
and rescue; and let us not forget "lady luck", love and the paranormal. And all
this BEFORE the strange events of October 1975 in Maple Ridge, that took David
Hamel down a path that changed his life forever.


Again, your missing the point of why I made this gate. The gate is an indicator,
what is it indicating?????????

Also this is not George Green's motor or anybody else, All the lab notes prove
who made this gate device 2-22-97 on Keelynet. Why is not reported as such
Sterling?

You must understand nature first as it the basic key to building these devices.

JB












--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "robbie41uk" <rob_smits@...> wrote:
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> John B, I like to read more about this. Can you indicate what book you refer
to? Can you give us a title, a link or ISBN number ?
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> --- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_bedini@> wrote:
> >
> > To All,
> > I guess you have all missed the point of the gate, What does that indictor
show you? If you build it right and cause it to fall at the right time the speed
will increase and spin faster, then it falls again and repeats again.
> >
> > Gravity is the next step to keep it going. You need to read the book on
Hamel then you will understand the butterfly effect. The missing magnet means
nothing.
> >
> > Don't forget the gate has two sides so it is indicating something you can't
see. If you see what it is showing you then you will know what a magnet is and
how the quadrants work.
> > The Three forces
> > Gravity
> > Magnetism
> > Electricity
> > They all work together.
> > JB
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> > --- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "acg_1001" <acg_1001@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Larry,
> > >
> > > Yes, it "works", or will spin if you move the ring by hand.
> > >
> > > And yes it "works" if you hand spin it first.
> > >
> > > I am just waiting for some PMM motor that works with no help at all. As
> > > you are I am sure we all are!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > > Hi acg_1001,
> > > > I think that if you actually tried the experiment yourself you would
> > > see that it works. It is very simple to do. Even a large ring magnet a
> > > smaller ring magnet and ball bearing will produce the spinning effect.
> > > It isn't a perpetual effect but no one has made that claim.
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 6/16/09, acg_1001 acg_1001@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: acg_1001 acg_1001@
> > > > Subject: [mylow_magmo] Re: Back to the Future - The Improved House of
> > > Hamel
> > > > To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 10:24 PM
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > p.s. The shot of viewing under the table in video #4 lead me to
> > > believe
> > > >
> > > > that there must be some reason that this video is here to try and
> > > prove
> > > >
> > > > this is a real running device -- and not a device that was spun up by
> > > >
> > > > hand and later stops.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure this was an unintentional outcome for people just watching
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > video#4. But, some will probably use that video now for proof of
> > > >
> > > > something that doesn't yet exist.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I wonder why any sceptic would care about a possible scam, if they
> > > >
> > > > knew
> > > >
> > > > > that you started the thing by hand and it stopped shortly after? I
> > > was
> > > >
> > > > > directed to only video #4, and did not know the whole story....A lot
> > > >
> > > > of
> > > >
> > > > > people will be fooled by that video without the full details.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > > Nice video's and replication try of Mylow by the way...
> > > >
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> > > > > Joe
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